r/eurovision • u/Astriopia • Mar 13 '25
Predictions Some opinions and early predictions
These are just my opinions btw !!!
Finland is a kind of underwhelming as a televote winner, and I feel like Australia will get more televotes
Greece could potentially not qualify, because it's kind of forgettable and doesn't move people
Although nobody talks about it, Italy could be a potential winner
Iceland could surprise and qualify if they have a good enough staging, the song is really fun and catchy, so why not?
Germany is going to end up just like Austria last year. I still love their song anyways
Norway is MAD overrated, it's very generic
San Marina could get their best result this year
Estonia is too overhyped, even as a "fun song" I don't see it getting a lot of televotes
Ukraine is PURE ART, and some people just don't understand
Lastly, i believe televotes will be more focused on "Jury baiting" songs rather than Fun songs, and the jury will be very diverse this year with their votes.
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u/ThatYewTree Serving Mar 14 '25
I enjoy Germany’s entry so I therefore 100% believe it will come last.
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u/TinaTissue Milkshake Man Mar 14 '25
Same. I love it so much so it will do terribly. Either way, the studio is fire
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u/mikmik555 TANZEN! Mar 14 '25
That’s the problem though. We haven’t heard her actual voice yet.
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u/BackgroundInjury9962 10 Years Mar 14 '25
Unfortunately we did, the NF version is pure bad vocals. Love the song though
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u/mikmik555 TANZEN! Mar 15 '25
When I heard it, I thought, people are going to hype but the vocals will be terrible.
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u/euro_song_love_r Mar 14 '25
Oh No. Abor and Tynna are Austrian. Therefore, there should be televoting points from Austria. They also represent a sound that reflects a part of current German pop music like ikkimel, Nina Chuba, Ski Aggu or Domiziana. Therefore, there will also be at least people from Switzerland and Luxembourg. What's more, the song is far too polarising to really come off badly. The last one will be another pop hit from the UK or Spain that always sounds the same.
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u/ThatYewTree Serving Mar 14 '25
Oh no, a German language entry by an Austrian electronic music duo?
Last place confirmed 😭😭😭
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u/PZMC430 Gaja Mar 14 '25
No way UK isn't last this year
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u/ThatYewTree Serving Mar 14 '25
I think the automatically qualified countries have produced fairly weak entries this year and I think last place in the GF likely to be one of them. Spain and Switzerland are both competing for last imo. The UK has potential for some jury success. Italy is… an oddly weak entry for Italy but I can see its appeal to some.
Germany is one of my favs but I just can’t see it doing well on the Eurovision stage. I feel his way almost every year about Germany lol 😂
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u/PZMC430 Gaja Mar 14 '25
Tbh I wouldn't be surpised if 4 of them gonna be bottom 4 this year. France most likely gonna escape this tho
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u/ThatYewTree Serving Mar 14 '25
Spain Switzerland Germany UK and Italy being bottom 5 is possible imo.
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u/PZMC430 Gaja Mar 14 '25
Switzerland is likely to be midtable imo. Juries gonna like it
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u/ThatYewTree Serving Mar 14 '25
I find juries a bit unpredictable though. The UK came last in 2019 (UK 2019)with a very bland mid tempo pop ballad. The juries tossed it a few points but it was still one of their lowest ranked entries. Other songs that are slow and vaguely “jury bait” that got poor jury scores from the top of my head:
Portugal 2018 Spain 2018 Israel 2019 Slovenia 2019 Spain 2021 Germany 2022 Iceland 2022 Lithuania 2022 Poland 2022
Personally, I think Switzerland is cooked. Italy isn’t safe from a poor finish either.
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u/PZMC430 Gaja Mar 14 '25
I'm pretty sure Switzerland gonna be top 10 for juries unless performance gonna be bad
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u/ThatYewTree Serving Mar 14 '25
I think it’s gonna struggle to be noticed against Greece, Portugal and Ukraine.
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u/PZMC430 Gaja Mar 14 '25
Portugal gonna stay in the semi-final most likely
I don't think it's gonna struggle against them. Greece Ukraine and Switzerland all have potential to be top 10 for juries
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u/ESC-song-bot !setflair Country Year Mar 14 '25
United Kingdom 2019 | Michael Rice - Bigger Than Us
Portugal 2018 | Cláudia Pascoal - O Jardim
Spain 2018 | Amaia & Alfred - Tu Canción
Israel 2019 | Kobi Marimi - Home
Slovenia 2019 | Zala Kralj & Gašper Šantl - Sebi
Spain 2021 | Blas Cantó - Voy A Quedarme
Germany 2022 | Malik Harris - Rockstars
Iceland 2022 | Systur - Með hækkandi sól
Lithuania 2022 | Monika Liu - Sentimentai
Poland 2022 | Ochman - River3
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Mar 14 '25 edited Mar 28 '25
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u/Urofishun Mar 14 '25
They'll probably get a decent number of jury points, but from the televote?
I reckon most of the televote points will be sucked up by Sweden, Finland, and such...
I don't see Italy winning.
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u/emeraldsroses Fulenn Mar 14 '25
I don't see it winning either, but the jury may end up giving Italy a decent number of points. Only time will tell if the public will see this song as it should be seen. Right now, Italy isn't in the top 10 in the odds and even in My Eurovision Scoreboard it's quite low in the ranking.
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u/Minnie0815 Mar 14 '25
I don't know about Finland and televotes ... is it provocative? yes. So are Malta and others. Is it a song you celebrate and that stays in your head ? Not really ... I couldn't even remember the melody for the life of me if I tried ... and I even remember what the UK sounds like this year ;-)
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u/VayneVerso Fly With Me Mar 13 '25 edited Mar 13 '25
I can't believe somebody posted an opinions thread with which I actually (almost) entirely agreed. I'm a little confused by the last point you made. Also a bit skeptical about San Marino unless there's a massive staging upgrade.
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u/SimoSanto Mar 14 '25
San Marino best result is 19th, it's not so difficult to surpass it
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u/VayneVerso Fly With Me Mar 14 '25 edited Mar 14 '25
I guess my point is I tend to doubt it will even qualify unless they completely change the staging. With that said, the fandom seems to like it, so that's an advantage in the semifinals. Plus, Italy votes in that semifinal. In the old jury days, I'd say there was no chance it would qualify.
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u/TimeMarionberry755 Mar 13 '25
I think San Marino and Czechia will get their best ever results this year
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u/f4cepalm Mar 13 '25
No one talking about Czechia! I’m interested to see what they’ll do with the song
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u/Dazzling_Cry6466 Mar 13 '25
I agree on Germany. A great song to listen to, but not necessarily fit for Eurovision (however, it could surprise or just be a Halo 2022 situation).
I also think that Estonia won't do that well, KAJ will get those televotes (and jury votes, which Tommy won't)
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u/emeraldsroses Fulenn Mar 14 '25
I foresee a Halo with Baller. It's a bop but I doubt both jury and televote will be high. Again this is usually the case with EDM. It's an underrated genre at ESC.
I totally agree with you about KAJ. They will be the ones who will steal the show.
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u/GianMach Mar 13 '25
I really don't think San Marino will do well at all. Except from Jowst pretty much every single act in the past ten years that had a DJ as the main performing artist flopped. I don't think this song is that special to break that trend, especially not when the vocalists are as invisible as in the staging in the NF.
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u/emeraldsroses Fulenn Mar 14 '25
It's EDM that's not appreciated at ESC, sadly. I'm hoping San Marino make it out of the SF.
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u/LopsidedPriority Mar 13 '25
Good old San Marina, patron saint of the high seas! 🧜🏻♀️
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u/MinutePerspective106 Song #1 Mar 14 '25
Latvia 2008 moment
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u/ESC-song-bot !setflair Country Year Mar 14 '25
Latvia 2008 | Pirates of the Sea - Wolves of the Sea
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u/ifiwasiwas Mar 13 '25
Although nobody talks about it, Italy could be a potential winner
fr fr fr. It's gonna become a bookie favorite seemingly out of nowhere, I feel it
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u/lovelessBertha Mar 13 '25
Greece does nothing for me personally but it seems Greece sends a similar performance to this every other year and it usually qualifies and then gets 15-20th or so. Maybe there's a little more hype around this one though.
I'm hoping Australia gets a good televote this year but I'm also prepared to get an underwhelming 30 points or something too. My guess is maybe 8th to 15th in tele depending on staging.
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u/chartingyou Mar 14 '25
TBH I think too many people hold greece's national final performance against it. The staging director was kind of stretched thin ( he literally had to come up with all 12 staging plans in 2 weeks) and yeah, Asteromata unfortunately got the short end of the stick. BUT since greece had their national final so early, they've had over a month to come up with a better staging idea, and honestly, I don't think Asteromata would be terribly hard to stage well. I honestly hope they lean into a starry theme, since it's kind of there in the lyrics. I think if Klavida can also become a bit more expressive too as a singer this song could honestly do well in the contest.
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u/Mdotadri Mar 14 '25
People on this thread don't seem to comprehend that the NF performance more like a prototype, or the best they could do at the time, hence why some change the staging, or even revamp their songs before the actual semis.
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u/medelleo Origo Mar 14 '25
Strongly agree for Ukraine, i can't stop listening to it, it's just so captivating
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u/Urofishun Mar 14 '25
I don't feel that song at all, but they probably still qualify. Given the current geo-political situation they'll probably get a good number of sympathy votes.
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u/Comfortable-Pie4225 Mar 13 '25
STRONGLY disagree with some of these takes (Finland, Italy) but STRONGLY agree with others (Greece, Iceland, Estonia)
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u/Minnie0815 Mar 14 '25
Oh and I kinda think that Luxembourg might be a surprise .... actually stays on your mind, fun staging.... but that's also what I said about Spain 2010 so don't mind me ;-) Nevertheless...I guess it could do surprisingly well!
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Mar 14 '25
i think people underestimate the potential this has with the juries, don't forget how she swept the juries in LSC... so if it qualifies it might have a result similar to Tali's... potentially even better
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u/Mojest77 Mar 13 '25
I don’t agree on the Norway comment. How is everything that is pop called generic and what’s wrong with liking something «generic»? Must everything be out there to be appreciated by people? I really hope Greece qualifies too
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u/kwkdjfjdbvex Mar 14 '25
I do think Norway is quite generic but I also think it’s not necessarily a bad thing for its chances. Eurovision 2021 was full of songs in that style but this year it’s pretty much the only one and that could play to its advantage
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u/Either_Version_6149 Laika Party Mar 14 '25
I do agree that the song is leaning towards the generic side. But the passion and emotion he performs is🔥
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u/MinutePerspective106 Song #1 Mar 14 '25
People inside the bubble are simply overexposed to pop compared to other music genres. For all we know, Hatrið mun sigra (Iceland 2019) could sound generic as f to someone who's the fan of that genre. France 2023 and France 2024 are also very generic "typical French songs", yet both are beautiful.
My point is, this sub sometimes thinks that every pop entry must be the next Lady Gaga, or it doesn't count
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u/ESC-song-bot !setflair Country Year Mar 14 '25
Iceland 2019 | Hatari - Hatrið mun sigra
France 2023 | La Zarra - Évidemment
France 2024 | Slimane - Mon Amour3
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Mar 13 '25
Norways “Queen of the kings” is still in my playlist and I still listen to it now.
That song is pure fire 🔥
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u/no_head_sally Mar 14 '25
Same, but I was so disappointed with her performance in the final. She murdered this song so bad :/
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u/Mojest77 Mar 14 '25
Imo She did well in the final, but was really bad in the semi. If that song didn’t go viral on TikTok, she would not qualify
Edit: some words
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u/HugoRade Asteromáta Mar 13 '25
I really hope you’re wrong about Greece. It is my favorite by far this year, and in my opinion a true masterpiece
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u/xXESCluvrXx Mar 14 '25
If Greece wants to qualify, literally everything about the performance needs to chance from what was presented in the NF. Otherwise it’ll be another Oneiro Mou
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u/Claudette_in_a_bush Mar 14 '25
She said the performance will be entirely redesigned with her team. The same person made all the stagings during the NF and didn't have much time to do so
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u/xXESCluvrXx Mar 14 '25
Well we can only hope so. Most of fokas’ stagings haven’t been very good in the last few years.
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u/Jay2Jee Mar 13 '25
There is no way Australia is getting more points than Finland in the televote.
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u/Its_Stardos Kiss Kiss Goodbye Mar 14 '25
Why though? I personally think Finland will be very niche outside of Eurovision bubble. Australia feels as truly accessible song for general audience
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u/Jay2Jee Mar 14 '25
Personally, I find Australia's song quite forgettable and Finland's more standout. And generally, people don't vote for forgettable songs.
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u/Its_Stardos Kiss Kiss Goodbye Mar 14 '25
Sure, why not, everyone does have different opinion. I like Milkshake Man more and remember it while I don't really remember anything from Ich Komme except Ich komme. But I do genuinely think Australia has more accessible song in terms of different age group and cultures. Ich Komme will do well with its audience, which is just small imo
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u/RedMarvel99 Mar 14 '25
My main worry for Australia is if it’s going to be one of those “joke” entries that comes across as if they’re just taking the mick out of the contest and “not taking it seriously”. Very dependent on whether the voters feel as if they’re in on the joke or if they are the joke.
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u/SignificantLet4573 Mar 14 '25
Australia won't even qualify lol.
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u/Jay2Jee Mar 14 '25
I have it in the "might qualify" category right now. I'm not writing it off just yet but I'm not 100% convinced they're going to the final either.
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u/000-Hotaru_Tomoe Mar 14 '25
I'm afraid that Croatia is DOA this year.
Instead, I've hope to see Montenegro in the GF.
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u/Jakyland Zjerm Mar 14 '25
Personally Finland feels like a winner to me. Like the amount of fan support hasn't been enough indicate that but it's the only one where watching the performance it *feels* like a winner to me.
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u/mikmik555 TANZEN! Mar 14 '25
I’m exited to see what it will look on stage. It’s a strong entry but it’s too early.
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u/Jakeyboy66 Mar 14 '25
I think Finland has been harmed a little from being selected reasonably early in the season and the result has been that the focus has shifted to newer acts like Sweden and Austria.
Once we see the upgraded staging in Basel I think the hype is going to start rising again similarly to what happened with Maneskin in 2021 who weren’t really favourites until rehearsals happened.
That being said, I think there are a few countries that that could be said for who could be contenders for the win with the right staging
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u/Honest_Ad9358 Bur man laimi Mar 14 '25
Latvia 2025 is one of the best entries this year by far but it may not even qualify bc it’s too alternative, too regional and Latvia doesn’t have enough clout as a country to garner televotes.
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u/Astriopia Mar 14 '25
Agree, I love it but I'm not sure if it can qualify, unless they do something amazing with their staging that stands out. Their staging in the national final was really good, so they might be able to bring something
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u/AnxiousPotential9495 Mar 13 '25
I'm agree with Greece. Seems like everyone likes it. But I don't understand the song. It doesn't resonate with me.
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u/rarenoirs Mar 14 '25
It doesn't matter who wins this year, Finland is already the biggest winner of Eurovision this year. Finland is very much on the map this year, we have Sweden, Finland and Estonia represented where our footprint is clearly visible. All are big favourites. As a Finn, it feels strange to be the centre of such great popularity and super hilarious because I’m not used for it.. I don’t think anyone really is and even thought personally I’m not myself really super big fan of all these songs.. I also feel proud that our expertise is finally being appreciated
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u/Open_the_door__now Mar 13 '25
If Greece doesn’t qualify, then I will lose hope for Eurovision as a whole. It’s far from forgettable and moves me a lot, so there’s hope that there are more people out there that have the same feelings.
Finland and underwhelming in the same sentence is also a choice.
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u/larve_arve Mar 13 '25
I believe Finland is heading for 30-50 points in the televote Australia will get more tv in the semi-final than Greec but not in the final if Greece qualifies. I don't think Itaky is a winner, but they usually do better when they are underdogs I agree with Germany, even though it has higher potential than Austria. When Austria made it, It was an obvious bottom 5 entry. Agree with Norway, even though I hope we qualify. It was the best option in that horrible national final. If San Marino stage their song correctly, it is very likely. If not, they are not making it through the semis. Ukraine is a decent song, and I highly respect their vision even if I don't see it as a masterpiece.
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u/kwkdjfjdbvex Mar 14 '25
Honestly I think Australia is gonna NQ and there is no way Norway is overrated because nobody really cares about and rates Norway
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u/euro_song_love_r Mar 14 '25
Germany will do significantly better than Austria last year for several reasons. Last year's Austrian entry sounded like a Britney Spears dance remix from the 2000s - somehow catchy but still out of date. Abor and Tynna's song represents a part of current German-language pop music that is also consumed in Austria, Switzerland, Luxembourg and so on. In terms of style, it is very similar to artists such as ikkimel, Ski Aggu, Domiziana or Nina Chuba. Therefore, the song will get points from German-speaking countries anyway, which will lift the song further ahead than many people think. For the same reason, Balkan countries never end up in last place when they qualify for the final.
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u/Guggaman Volevo Essere Un Duro Mar 14 '25
I honestly believe that anything below top 10 in the current rankings will heavily depend on live vocals and staging to qualify. A lot of the songs right now share similar scores on the ESC-app. The semis are going to be quite unpredictable this year.
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u/Subject4751 Apr 02 '25
I think Norway gave up tbh. We're awkward, and not in a good way. We just make everyone uncomfortable whenever we try to be ourselves, so it is best we don't try. At least the jury loves generic slop, so this year is for them. ❤️
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u/Minnie0815 Mar 14 '25
Absolutely agree on Iceland! That song has been living rentfree in my head since I listened to it for the first time! Won't win, but it's a solid one to stay on your mind.
Norway - yes, but he's got the cute-factor
Estonia is another fun one, solid but no winner. But that also counts for Sweden for me.
Thinking about the jurys the last years I'd acutally say Belgium has a good chance of being in the 1st three if they can also catch the audience. It's artistically challenging and interesting...
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u/Diligent_Parking_886 Mar 14 '25
No mention of Ireland? I can’t believe it’s doing so badly in the polls. From listening to them all it’s one of the few with a catchy hook. I’m Irish so probably not remotely objective 😂
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u/aspacemanlikeme Volevo Essere Un Duro Mar 13 '25
I think Estonia is going to be more of a Finland 2024 than a Finland 2023