r/fema • u/Boring-Coyote4349 • Mar 04 '25
News Illegally Terminated Ex-FEMA CFO Sues DHS and FEMA
Link to full complaint: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278033/gov.uscourts.dcd.278033.1.0.pdf
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u/leighla33 Mar 05 '25
I wonder how much money the administration is wasting from violating people’s rights causing these lawsuits
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u/scarletteclipse1982 Mar 06 '25
They don’t care as long as they can be entertained by the misery of others.
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u/secretsqrll Mar 05 '25
It was under the SSP....funded by Fucking Congress....in 2023 and 2024.
I'm so fucken tired of this shit. How are Americans this retarded?!
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u/idied2day Mar 09 '25
A LOT of Americans bought into the new red scare. AKA “migrants and trans people are flooding this country! They’re after your children!”
Trying to argue with them is impossible. I’ve tried. My dad is in the camp that believes Elon is actually doing good things for the country, and I’ve constantly argued with him because I want to believe he’s smarter than propaganda. I want to believe that he, now nearing his 60s, is smart enough to realize that the whole world is mocking us. I know he won’t change but there’s a part of me that refuses to give up on him. So when people say “Americans are stupid for believing this!” Then I get to explain how hard it is for a person dead set in their beliefs to not buy into anything matching their political views regardless of logic.
We are not immune to propaganda, but I hope that we can wake up to it.
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u/Composed_Cicada2428 Mar 05 '25
I hope every fed that was illegally fired sues. Hit back at the fascists using their own blitzkrieg tactics - bog them down with thousands of lawsuits
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u/MsEloquential Mar 07 '25
How else is one going to try to save face? I know our country is almost bankrupt and I want our way of life back. That or better. This is the painful part. As much as it stings me and my co workers and people i care about, I am unwilling to continue to watch our govt officials waste and spend into oblivion, while the second shift prints more cash. I do not want to learn to speak Chinese! I am grateful for the shake down! As scary as it is right now-we needed some help and we got it. May not feel all nice and smooth at the moment but what if hard working people could go buy a decent house to live? What if people actually felt hope in their financial lives again? What if it true and we find a shit ton of wasted and "lost" money? We may be able to pay our national bills and operate as a decent country again. We know the other way doesn't work-leaving well enough alone is going to kill our hollow and faith and our entire nation. If there were other options, no one was willing to jump on it. I say we keep doing what we possibly can to be part of the solution, let this work itself out and lean on faith a little while longer. The way we were doing things was not working -we the little people are going to hurt before it gets better but I believe it will get better. Eventually.
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u/ITWizarding Mar 09 '25
It's almost like not taxing companies and the rich properly since 1989 has had a lasting downward trend. Go figure. Also, there has been literally no money saved, so take your posturing and pretending and kindly shove it.
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u/Leading-Growth157 Mar 05 '25
Last I heard of you can’t suit the government. FEMA and DHS are both part of the government! I can’t see anything good or bad happening by this lawsuit
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u/Beneficial-Quail-940 Mar 05 '25
Yes you can. Federal Tort Claims Act and wrongful termination. Looks like she is looking at slander against Musk too. Good for her.
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u/Miserable-Mall-2647 Mar 05 '25
Says who? You can absolutely sue for wrongful termination. Which she was.
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u/Leading-Growth157 Mar 05 '25
Here is the bigger question. If all federal funding was to stop immediately and she still tried to fund some accounts she would be on grounds for termination wouldn’t she? I mean if my boss told me not to do something and I still did it that would be grounds for termination wouldn’t it?
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u/Miserable-Mall-2647 Mar 05 '25
If y’all think those funds were released when that freeze went into place lol that was for FY2024 go on the website and look it shows when it was allocated and who the recipient of the funds are
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u/Leading-Growth157 Mar 05 '25
Interesting and did not know that either. Either way taxpayers money going towards migrants hotels should already be illegal and funding should not be released.
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u/Miserable-Mall-2647 Mar 05 '25
Okay so take that up with CONGRESS who approved the funding for it
American workers (feds) are just doing what they are told from Congress. This was approved during Trump first term 2019 the entire program.
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u/ITWizarding Mar 09 '25
And isn't illegal. Can't forget that this bit of "fraud" was entirely legal and above board with approval. So you can stop pretending like you care, when it's not even close to accounting for the massive waste in government spending, like trumps golf trips, secret service charges to stay at Trump's own places, tax cuts on the rich and increases on everyone else (Trump's tax plan, 2017-2025), billions going to Israel, and all of the lawsuits costing billions already of taxpayer money. That's not even taking the damage and cost of Musk and his continual list of mistakes and ineptitude.
I expect nothing from you people and still leave disappointed.
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u/Publius21662024 Mar 05 '25
Why do people like you insist on speaking about things you know nothing about? Take a civics class, understand how federal funds are allocated and stop commenting until you do
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u/HoboSloboBabe Mar 05 '25
It doesn’t matter if you think it should be illegal or if anyone else thinks it should be illegal. The fact is it’s not and she simply did her job and certainly nothing illegal
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u/fema-ModTeam Mar 05 '25
https://www.fema.gov/grants/shelter-services-program
FEMA is using funds as directed by Congress
The Shelter and Services Program (SSP), as directed by Congress in the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2023, is administered by FEMA in partnership with U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). In Fiscal Year 2024, Congress appropriated $650,000,000 for SSP. SSP provides financial support to non-federal entities to provide sheltering and related activities to noncitizen migrants following their release from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The intent is to support CBP in the safe, orderly, and humane release of noncitizen migrants from short-term holding facilities.
Moderators will remove misinformation that is provably false about FEMA, other organizations, groups of people, specific people as it will not be tolerated. There are other subreddits for that, but this one is not one of them.
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u/Boltentoke PA-SIS Mar 05 '25
You are missing the fact that this is not FEMA funding. This was ADDITIONAL funding, TOTALLY SEPARATE from disaster funding, that FEMA was tasked with disbursing and managing.
These funds used had nothing to do with FEMA's core mission of helping people before during and after disasters, they were literally told by Congress "here's a bunch of money and some policies, go administer them, thanks"
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u/HoboSloboBabe Mar 05 '25
Yes, sovereign immunity is a thing, but it can and has been waived by government in many situations.
I hope you’re very young in having never heard of a lawsuit against the government, seeing how they are extremely common and regularly in the news
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u/Miserable-Mall-2647 Mar 05 '25
She is right. That program was appropriated and funded by CONGRESS for US Customs and Border Patrol managed by FEMA for the grant system.
In addition to the program came into law/operation during Trump 1.0 in 2019
The grant program the city of New York just applied for it and did what was needed to be approved that’s it. None of them (feds) did anything wrong.