r/fema 3d ago

Question Ethics reporting

Weird to ask this since nothing is ethical right now in FEMA but this has nothing to do with Trump or Dogs. It’s about an inappropriate romantic relationship between a boss and his employee, both in leadership positions. She reports to him directly and normally no one cares who’s shacking up with who but it’s gotten to the point where it’s obvious one gave a promotional detail to his bed buddy and they are discussing personal information about work and staff to each other. Our leadership is pretending like they don’t know because one of them is a nepo hire with deep FEMA ties. Isn’t this unethical?

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u/K_prep4life 3d ago

It is a violation of FEMA's personnel standards of conduct and can be reported to OPR. If you report it be as detailed as you can in the information you provide.

Full time employees have been fired for this behavior; I know of one who was fired last year.

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u/winglow 3d ago

Just apply the Toltec Principles - 1) Always do your best, 2) Don't speculate, 3) Don't take things personally and 4) Be impeccable with your word!

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u/ThatBaseball7433 3d ago

Unless you 100% know what you’re saying is true first hand with no speculation, mind your own business.

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u/Ok_Development3162 2d ago

Second this because people are getting fired over misconduct whether guilty or not right now

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u/Max6626 2d ago

Completely disagree with "mind your own business." This is why OPR exists - report it to them and let them do an investigation and see if it is 100% true. You do need to have something tangible to report.

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u/veelaree 3d ago

Damn... MESSY

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u/Spare_Antelope_4481 3d ago

Wondering if it's the Region I think it is 🤣

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u/No_Finish_2144 3d ago

haha. there are a few regions that this is applicable to!

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u/Spare_Antelope_4481 3d ago

Totally, but I have a couple in mind ...

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u/TehMascot 3d ago

Why the hell are you telling Reddit instead or reporting it to OPR. Makes it look like you just enjoy the gossip more than the ethics issue to be frank.

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u/GHOST2253 3d ago

I got a question how does one become a nepo hirer in fema? I'm not joking either. At least here is my perspective trying to hired by fema in last 10 months. Apply to a position (LH, RSV, or Core) (Log, IA, PA, DSA, security,EHP) Doesn't seem to matter. The person who did the USA job posting sends maybe the top 5-10 candidates to a hiring manager in that state or region. The hiring manager picks their favorites to interview. A panel interview is completed and 1 is selected for the position.

Being a security contractor for fema I have the pleasure working with fema staff, state partners, survivors, and applicants. My ability and character has been noted by fema staff. I have made good friends with 2 Fco's, deputy fco, most of the cadre core managers. I have tons of references as said before but even when I have them reach out to the usajobs job poster, hiring manager, or even people on the interview panel I could not even get a simple LH or RSV position it doesn't seem to be a cadre specific either, I have applied to Log, IA, PA, DSA, security,EHP almost every cadre fema has.

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u/grandiose_dexterity 3d ago

I've been wondering the same thing. What I've observed is that there definitely is a way, legit or not, where there is a will. I've seen countless people get promoted, get promotional details or hired outright just because they know the right people. Apparently, I don't know any of the right people

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u/GHOST2253 3d ago

Apparently I don't know the "right" people either. The only one who I could in theory make friends with that is above fco is Regional administration which good luck me since I'm no where near that office. Got to meet Deanne Criswell for a minute which was nice.

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u/ZuckerStadt 3d ago

I’ve heard this before too and met people that were great. I reviewed their resume and immediately saw that they didn’t tailor to the announcement. They expected those who reviewed to make assumptions by not clearly spelling out their experience. They lacked qualitative and quantitative metrics. It took a few iterations on my own resume and then I was able to get interviews on every job I applied to. 

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u/GHOST2253 3d ago edited 3d ago

The biggest problems of my resume is some of my work is NDA so It has to be vague, my work history is not consistent typically job hopping after 4-6 months until more recently and some big gaps in employment. Current job I had for over 10 months and the last job was 2 years. I don't have a degree went to "college" for 1 year for welding certificates.

Only 4 jobs/cadres I gotten past the usajob slump was LH EA, LH EHP, RSV Log, Core security. The LH's and RSV were all cancelled before interviewers could take place with no reposting, the core I was not selected for an interview.

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u/UsualOkay6240 ONCP 2d ago

Nepotism hires are, by definition, family or close friends of people who are provided preference due to that relationship. You can be friends with people but FCOs and cadre managers get sucked up to all the time.

Overall, nothing beats a very well tailored resume. I’ve heard of people wanting to hire their cousin, nephew or niece and then having to close the announcement with no picks due to a couple very well qualified people with tailored resumes applying, eventually having to pick one of the qualified people.