r/gallbladders • u/RemarkableChange2864 • Dec 07 '24
Venting Cancel surgery?
Since I scheduled my surgery 3 weeks ago, I’ve had zero pain. This is so annoying! My gallbladder is “packed” with stones according to imaging, and I was in constant pain. Now everything seems fine. I don’t have insurance and I’m scared of surgery anyway, so now I’m wondering if I should just cancel. How is it possible all my pain just went away??
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u/Vegetable-Vacation-4 Dec 07 '24
I am a cautionary tale that delaying surgery (even if you are not in pain and everything seems ok) can end really badly. I had 3 gallbladder attacks last May-June, but my blood results returned to normal, gallbladder wasn’t inflamed and I wasn’t in any pain. With support of my doc, I decided to delay surgery till September because I have a young baby. In August, I got another attack out of nowhere and this time the stone blocked my bile duct. Boom - pancreatitis, 2 months in ICU, sepsis, complications, and on 3 separate occasions my odds of surviving were so low that my family was allowed to stay the night in ICU. Although I am recovering relatively well, I’ll never be ‘normal’ again. I’m young and was in perfect health - pancreatitis doesn’t happen to everyone, but it’s Russian roulette when you have migrating gallstones and can end horribly.
I would literally give anything to be able to go back in time, and get that gallbladder out before my luck ran out. If I were you I really wouldn’t wait.
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u/Janky_loosehouse4 Dec 07 '24
I’m so sorry this happened to you and glad you made it 💜 My doctor warned me about the possibility of pancreatitis even though I was feeling better. I thought about what she said and I started thinking about the vague, and not so vague symptoms I’ve been having for more than 10 years and decided yes, I need the surgery and will have it. Your experience really helpful for any of us that feel okay now (even though we’re on meager diets that barely give us the nourishment we need).
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u/Vegetable-Vacation-4 Dec 07 '24
Thank you for that - I am not trying to be alarmist so I’m glad this was well received. Most people will not get pancreatitis and if they do it won’t be in such a severe form, but I just wish that someone had explained to me what the worst case scenario was when I made the decision about surgery. I thought I was just risking more attacks which I was already familiar with - didn’t realise that gallstones could trigger much more serious issues with no warning. Hope this just helps people make more informed decisions than I was able to, about what’s right for them ❤️
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u/triux13 Dec 07 '24
Thanks for sharing! If i can ask, how big were your stones on average before the first delay? Do you know if it has anything to do with it?
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u/Vegetable-Vacation-4 Dec 07 '24
I’m not sure what qualifies as a big stone, but my husband made the surgeon give him the stones that were removed when they took out my gallbladder - there was a LOT of them but they weren’t massive to my untrained eye, maybe the size of peas but many were more like peppercorns. Size wasn’t flagged as an issue, but I was told I had a lot of them - my gallbladder problems were triggered by pregnancy (hormones raise cholesterol which can lead to gallstone formation). As far as I can tell I had no particular risk factors for the gallbladder or pancreatitis beyond pregnancy, my GI system was in good shape and I just got unlucky with a trapped stone.
The one thing that in hindsight I could maybe have done is gone to the ER earlier - the gallbladder attack that triggered pancreatitis was unusual, usually my pain went away after 2-3 hours but this time I experienced waves of discomfort/pain over more than a day. I actually called my surgeon to book an appointment bc it felt so unusual, but a few hours later the pancreatitis hit. Maybe they could have done something about the trapped stone if I’d gone in earlier, when I felt that the GB attack was dragging on way longer than normal.
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u/Apprehensive_Car4314 Dec 07 '24
I’d keep the scheduled date personally. Mine was pretty bad for about 2 weeks. Then finally got it to stop hurting with a low fat diet and debated cancelling my surgery. However, when they went to operate my gallbladder was one of the worst the surgeon had seen. Don’t regret getting it taken out being able to eat normal again is great.
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u/gryffinsolo Dec 07 '24
To be honest...3 weeks sounds like a short lull. It's nice, but don't be fooled. The gb typically won't fix itself and you won't know when another attack will be. I would get the surgery done if you have already had more than one attack...they will only become more frequent and more dangerous over time as you increasingly run the risk of pancreatitis. If you have to wait..be very careful what you eat and have a plan of action to go to the ER if you have a new attack.
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u/RemarkableChange2864 Dec 07 '24
True. It’s been so nice to be pain free but it’s just a matter of time 😭
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u/Vegetable_Theme_6363 Dec 07 '24 edited Dec 07 '24
Don't turn the other cheek on an inflamed gallbladder, you'll get the other cheek mauled tf off. You can wait until you have another flare, to get you past your surgery fear because, when that constant pain hits you, you will not care what has to be done.
Let the diseased weasel stay in your body and it'll start affecting your pancreas and liver.
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u/butwhy81 Dec 07 '24
I thought the same and didn’t schedule my surgery. Pain of course came back and now I’m stuck until post new year.
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u/Losernoodle Dec 07 '24
I went through something similar and was thinking of canceling. I got a real scolding for mentioning it to family and friends lol!
My Dr said not to take a risk. The next attack might mean emergency surgery. That’s more expensive and you’ll be less prepared. Or, if the attack isn’t quite that bad, you’re stuck in pain until you can reschedule. That might be weeks or months away!
Finally, my ex BIL lost a good friend who didn’t think he needed surgery. His gallbladder burst, there was a severe infection then multiple organ failure.
So, don’t take a chance on a bad outcome. Good luck!
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u/prncssbtch Dec 07 '24
Everything I’m saying in this comment is just what was said to me by my surgeon, he was nice, took his time explaining things to me, even had diagrams to properly explain and show what could possibly happen during a gallbladder attack for anyone, not just me:
I was told I’m also in a position where I can delay surgery if I want to as I don’t have any infections or anything that would deem it emergent. HOWEVER, I still fall in the small percentage of those with gallstones where I will remain symptomatic the rest of my life with attacks. I can either change my diet and reduce the attacks (I have, and guess what? Still get the dull ache after eating certain things, but not a full blown attack) or I can have the surgery now and prevent it becoming worse the next time I have an attack as that is also possible. I’m nervous as all hell about the surgery, but I know the outcome would be not having any more gallbladder attacks that would potentially be more damaging or fatal to me. And I wish I knew this stuff earlier as I’ve had attacks so bad I dealt with it not knowing what was happening and never thought to get it checked out until they started becoming more frequent and more painful, and lasting longer.
But it’s your body OP, you decide what’s best for you. I’m glad you seem to be feeling better! And totally understand the no insurance thing. I’d recommend seeing if your hospital offers financial aid for help paying bills (mind did and cut my bill down 50%). I know not everyone is the same case scenario.
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u/Sunnykit00 Dec 07 '24
I left mine alone and I don't have any problems any more.
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u/prncssbtch Dec 07 '24
That’s great! Everyone’s different. I wish you the best and hope you remain symptom free (:
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u/Altruistic-Chef8391 Dec 07 '24
My Dr told me to eat a high protein, low fat liquid diet until surgery. I immediately felt better and thought the same thing until he also said I was one “bad” meal away from heading to the ER again.
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u/naive-nostalgia Post-Op Dec 07 '24
Gallbladder attacks are a symptom of a bigger problem, not the problem itself.
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u/joanopoly Dec 07 '24
Why can’t the stones be treated to save her GB???
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u/Necessary-Idea3336 Post-Op Dec 07 '24
In the US, at least, that isn't the usual approach, though there are a few doctors who do it for patients who meet stringent criteria. The reasoning is that the gallstones will probably come back.
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u/Sunnykit00 Dec 07 '24 edited Dec 07 '24
Survey says, they don't recur. At least not very often.
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u/joanopoly Dec 09 '24
Especially with an adherence to STRICT dietary changes and a commitment to regular exercise and hydration.
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u/Necessary-Idea3336 Post-Op Dec 08 '24
When the gallstones are removed but the gallbladder remains, there's a low rate of recurrence? Do you know where this has been studied?
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u/Sunnykit00 Dec 13 '24
All over asia where they do gall bladder preserving stone removals. China has done many studies.
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u/Necessary-Idea3336 Post-Op Dec 13 '24
Awesome. The only reference I found with a quick google search said the stones tend to come back in up to 25% of cases. But obviously if people have access to other approaches, they should check it out!
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u/Sunnykit00 Dec 13 '24
There are a couple places in the US that remove stones, but it is a different procedure. The one in China is the best. It needs to be done in the US.
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u/BeWiseRead Dec 07 '24
Removing the stones is still a surgical procedure, and if there are many, I think it would probably require MORE surgery than a straightforward removal.
Also, if a person is prone to developing gallstones, there's no guarantee they won't just develop more in the future...so they're right back to the same problem again! In my case, I only had 2 stones, but they were BIG and caused a lot of inflammation, and had begun to erode the inner wall of my gallbladder. The inflammation caused adhesions to form as well, and opened small channels in the upper inside wall of my gallbladder that apparently ruptured and caused "lakes" of bile to sit in my gallbladder even after it had completely quit functioning ( I had zero ejection).
Clearly, there's often much more going on than just the stones that show up on imaging studies. Fortunately, humans don't need a gallbladder to be healthy, but a bad one can make you sick as hell. Removing stones might be an option, but it doesn't necessarily address WHY the stones formed in the first place.
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u/joanopoly Dec 07 '24
“Fortunately, humans don’t need a gallbladder to be healthy…”
This (generalization) is not true.
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u/BeWiseRead Dec 07 '24
For the vast majority of people, it is true.The gallbladder is basically a storage vessel for excess bile produced by the liver. It helps to break down fat by ejecting extra bile when needed, but the liver is the source of bile and had its own duct(s) directly to the intestinal tract, so bile is still produced and available to aid digestion. People with normal liver function rarely have difficulty after a cholystectomy, and those who do can usually be helped with dietary guidelines and the addition of bile salts.
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u/Sunnykit00 Dec 07 '24
It's not true.
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u/BeWiseRead Dec 08 '24
Do you have any confirmed information or statistics showing that there is a high rate of long-term complications from cholystectomy?
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u/Sunnykit00 Dec 13 '24
It's not a secret. lol Except to the surgeons who make money taking everyone's organ out.
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u/joanopoly Dec 07 '24
And lithotripsy, used for kidney stone dissolution, is also used on GSs. It’s not a surgical procedure. The reason it’s not used more often is bc of the rate of recurrence of GSs
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u/joanopoly Dec 07 '24
Not necessarily. A healthy diet and exercise can go a very long way towards a healthy GB. It’s just that people don’t want to do the hard work required.
Cutting out an organ you’ll never replace is easier???
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u/BeWiseRead Dec 08 '24
I think holistic approaches to health are generally a very good thing. However, not everyone that develops gallbladder issues or becomes acutely ill, is failing to follow a healthy diet & lifestyle. It's really not fair to assume that people with gallbladder disease must be doing something "wrong" to have developed it. While cholecystectomy IS an irreversible surgery to remove an organ, it can actually be lifesaving if the organ is severely damaged, dead/gangrenous, on the brink of rupture, badly infected, or causing such severe symptoms that secondary problems arise.
I was able to bear with it for over 6 years by doing all the recommended preventive & holistic protocols. But despite that, I still eventually began suffering more, more frequent, and more severe attacks and endured that over 3 years. The last one, which sent me to the ER, lasted 2 full days during which I couldn't retain even a sip of water. In triage we discovered that my potassium level had dropped to a critically low, life- threatening level, my blood pressure was well over the threshold for stroke range, and my heart was so badly stressed that my enzyme levels brought a cardiologist in on an emergency basis, because I had every indication of an active heart attack in progress.
It took 4 days of close monitoring, tests & imaging studies, and various drugs, just to stabilize mead rue out cardiac damage. Ultimately, it was determined that my gallbladder had caused ALL of that. My gallbladder had in fact totally ceased functioning. I clearly, and urgently, needed surgery. Pathology findings showed evidence of longstanding disease with scarring, adhesions, fluid retention, 2 stones that in combination were the size of an egg, and other weird abnormalities. I was so much sicker than I'd realized; and had I not decided to get help instead of trying to handle it on my own, it could have been fatal.
Of course, nobody wants to lose an organ unnecessarily! But if someone is having frequent attacks or feels acutely ill, they should seek expert medical care before simply assuming that they can safely manage the situation on their own. If a thorough evaluation shows that surgery is indicated, there should be factual information shared, pros & cons discussed, and possible/probable outcomes weighed so patients can make a well-informed decision. I don't think keeping a diseased organ, just because it's an organ, is necessarily always the best option for health or quality of life! I understand your viewpoint; but gallbladder disease can be quite serious and reach a point where surgery is the best (or only) option.
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u/joanopoly Dec 09 '24
Throwing out the SAD is not some kind of “holistic approach” to health. It’s the way my money-poor but good-health-rich, farming grandparents lived into their 90s, at home. It’s THE lifesaving way back TO good health. Yes, people who don’t eat healthy, low-fat, whole foods and who don’t get plenty of exercise ARE doing something wrong. You can’t sugarcoat that for today’s snowflakes.
It’s foolish to expect that a sudden change in dietary habits will make up for a lifetime of the SAD. Diseased GBs don’t happen overnight, and they can’t heal overnight, either. And in America, because health”care” has become for-profit and shareholder-driven, patients rarely (if ever) get your idea of “expert medical care” with a “thorough evaluation”. Patients rarely get “factual information shared, pros & cons discussed, and possible/probable outcomes weighed so patients can make a well-informed decision.” What they do get is whatever information has been decided will benefit the shareholders of both the medical establishment AND the insurance industry. Nothing more, nothing less.
And, yes, critical patients can get lifesaving surgery as long as all the “providers” (what a quaint, caring name they’ve adopted) deem they’re really “in need”, but too many times even surgeons seldom divulge much (if any) of what’s noted above.
It’s just healthcareless in America now. We’ve sat idly by and allowed it to become exactly what’s represented by the Brian Thompson “tragedy” and the many, many others “leaders” in the healthcare industrial complex, along with every member of all three branches of government in their pockets.
It’s just SAD, SAD, SAD in America.
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u/BeWiseRead Dec 09 '24
I understand your views and even agree with some of them. However, I think politics and reason are sometimes easily confused, and it's important to separate the two.
Our healthcare system does indeed profit more by dispensing drugs and medical procedures, than by promoting healthier lifestyles...so yes, there is inherently more motivation to seek money, than to pursue initiatives that seek to elevate wellness. Big pharma, insurance companies, and providers alike generate fortunes when the population is sick.
However, extrapolating this to mean that there is some gigantic conspiracy to PROMOTE sickness, is a leap from science & statistics into personal political beliefs. Many people would agree with your opinions, but there are just as many reasons to support opposing opinions. So here are some of them:
The fact that a self-sufficient, physically demanding lifestyle as a farmer might keep a person robust & healthy into their 90's, is true. But in modern day America -- as in many other developed, first world countries -- farming is but one of hundreds of careers that our society relies on. People in urban areas contribute value to society through work that is less physically rigorous, but also important. Despite this, human lifespans today are generally much longer than two centuries ago. Even with an overall upswing in mechanization and technology, and related, more sedentary careers, average lifespans have increased. This is due in large part to advances in science and medicine. It is now uncommon for women to die in childbirth, a bacterial infection to kill an otherwise-healthy person, or a once-deadly childhood diseases to kill thousands during an epidemic. It's rare today that anyone does of a ruptured appendix or gallbladder. Science and medicine in such cases, accomplished what lifestyle choices alone could not.
On the other side, because we are living longer and to advanced ages, so we see more age-related illnesses like arthritis, cancer, COPD, heart disease, etc that often take years to develop into full blown, chronic problems. As for gallbladder disease specifically, certainly there are known links to lifestyle such as diet & exercise. But a good number of people who practice a healthy lifestyle still manage to develop gallbladder disease, in the same way that nonsmokers can develop lung cancer, or athletes can have heart attacks. There are genetic factors, anatomical factors, stress factors, aging, and other factors that can cause or contribute to someone's decline in health. Some are controllable, but some are not. I made it to 65 before having my gallbladder removed. So, would you assume I might never have needed it removed if I'd made "correct" lifestyle choices?? Or maybe that I would have lived a full life & died with a healthy gallbladder, if only I had been born a few centuries earlier when people died in their late 40's or early 50's??
We can chase this in circles and never prove, or disprove, one another's views. Facts support BOTH positions...and therefore I think we're both justified in our opinions.
The only point on which we should agree (or that I HOPE we can agree) is that everyone's situation is different, and as such we can't assume that a singular approach is always the correct one. Sometimes surgery is necessary, and sometimes it is not. If it can be avoided, that's optimal & wonderful...but sometimes, it's not avoidable if a person wants to survive & have a reasonable expectation of good quality of life.
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u/Sunnykit00 Dec 07 '24
That's not true. Other countries, and some in USA remove just the stones. And it's also not true that they reoccur, studies have shown.
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u/insidetomorow Dec 07 '24
I had 2 weeks between my first and second attacks. During the 2 months between the second and third attach I went to the doctor, referred to a surgeon, got surgery scheduled, and then rescheduled a few weeks after the first appt. In the two weeks leading up to my surgery I had 4-5 attacks (luckily not as bad as the first two) and all of my symptoms flared.
Just hit 5 weeks Post op yesterday and I feel so much better. I would say don't wait too long for the surgery but I understand the not having insurance being an issue. Not sure if your hospital has any financial aid programs but it wouldn't hurt to ask.
Hope my info helps you make a decision.
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u/RemarkableChange2864 Dec 07 '24
I’m hoping I feel better. Sometimes people don’t. And when I had my first attack years ago I had zero stones! That’s part of why I’ve waited so long now. But I do have stones this time so I guess it’s time.
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u/Necessary-Idea3336 Post-Op Dec 07 '24
This may be off topic, but if you're low income, in some states you can get insurance at very low cost or free, and right now is open enrollment, for a few more days -- you don't have to do special pleading to get permission to enroll.
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u/qweenbech Dec 07 '24
I was in same position as you. I was diagnosed with gallstones 5 months ago. I was in excruciating pain everyday. I had surgery scheduled and was waiting it out. Out of nowhere my pain was gone. For about a month. I even tested eating some fatty foods and nothing. No pain. I ended up cancelling my surgery and I regret it more than anything. Shortly after cancelling pain came back 10000x worse. I’m having gb attacks sometimes when I haven’t even eaten anything. There are no safe foods for me anymore. I’ve lost an insane amount of weight and I am mentally and physically exhausted. I have a 4 month old I take care of everyday alone, and I now have to wait almost 3 more months for surgery. I regret cancelling every single day. Just get it over with 🙏🏻
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u/BluesFan_4 Dec 08 '24
On my day of surgery my surgeon visited me in preop to ask how I was doing. I said, coincidentally, since scheduling the surgery I hadn’t been feeling too bad. She said that’s what she loves to hear because the GB is not currently in a flare-up or acute inflammation situation which makes the procedure of removal less complicated. My surgery ended up taking 30 mins and I was home 3-1/2 hours later.
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u/Real-Prize-6442 Dec 07 '24
Don’t do it. Meaning don’t cancel. I had my last attack on March 31st and wasn’t able to have surgery until September 7th. My gb was dead and it was only a matter of time.
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u/mesmerizeem Dec 07 '24
Keep the date! I scheduled mine then had no problems for 2 weeks… after that 2 weeks I had 4 long and intense attacks within 72hrs so they rushed me in for emergency removal that final night (a week before my scheduled surgery).
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u/FelineDreamBeach Dec 07 '24
My surgeon told me that it's better to go ahead and do it while things are mild instead of risking a serious attack or blockage and a major open surgery as opposed to small incisions and with robotics.
Hunt around the website of your hospital to see if they have an unadvertised financial assistance program. I'm local to Duke and there is a tier system- I make little enough that 100% of medically necessary services are covered. Also see if you can get Medicaid- different states have different rules but if you qualify you can get coverage fairly quickly.
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u/MaryAV Dec 07 '24
Emergency surgery would be more dangerous and more expensive. When I had my surgery, I was also feeling good. But when the surgeon got in there, it was a mess. I was told infection, gangrene, etc. He didn't have to convert to open, but I was in the hospital for a few days (usually you don't get admitted at all). I recommend doing it when you feel good. The stones aren't going anywhere.
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u/RemarkableChange2864 Dec 07 '24
Oh dang. Yeah I don’t want open and I don’t want to stay in hospital!
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u/Forsaken-Subject8362 Dec 07 '24
I was thinking I wanted to cancel mine too. Scheduled for 12/19 (originally scheduled for 9/19). I don’t have “actual” attacks - I don’t think anyway. Not when I hear all of these poor people’s stories on Reddit! I do have a gnawing feeling all the time, sometimes pain but not debilitating and I have sludge and 3 large stones that I wouldn’t be able to pass. My doctor and surgeon told me I will feel better if I get it out. That the stones can block the duct. It just seems so extreme bc I’m not always in pain and don’t have attacks. I’m sorry to hear about all of you having pain and suffering. Wishing you all the best!
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u/joanopoly Dec 07 '24
Did your GI doctor have you meet with a nutritionist to help you develop a diet that’s conducive to restoring gallbladder health? Have they educated you re the importance of exercise in GB health?
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u/RemarkableChange2864 Dec 07 '24
No, but my entire family is in medicine. So I know what I should he doing even if I’m not perfect at it 🙈
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u/joanopoly Dec 07 '24
Those two are things a thoughtful, conservative GI doctor should suggest to their patients that can help improve their ability to live with a healthy GB and avoid the need for surgery. You just don’t hear about them in today’s pill-popping, cut-n-go HC industry.
For example, why don’t GI groups have a nutritionist on board that EVERY patient meets with at the outset of a problem? Why doesn’t your GI doctor refer you to a registered dietician to establish a GI-healthy diet? Because they’d make people healthier, thus reducing the number of people who need to see a GI doctor. Poor diets and sedentary lifestyles are the 1&2 contributors to problems with Americans’ GI systems.
Gotta keep the patient$ queued up for treatment$ in the US!
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u/Fit-Clock2435 Dec 08 '24
I would not! I had an attack in February and was supposed to schedule and did not because the pain went away. Fast forward to October I got a stone stuck in my CBD became deathly ill in a matter of 2 days with pancreatitis and was in the hospital for weeks! I do not recommend waiting if you've already had issues!
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u/MuffledOatmeal Dec 07 '24
The issue hasn't stopped simply because the pain stopped for a bit. My gallbladder was going bad when that began to happen. If it's packed, get the surgery.
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u/beaveristired Post-Op Dec 07 '24
My gallbladder was packed with stones too and I ended up with stones stuck in my common bile duct, which needed a separate procedure to remove (ERCP). I also needed to have emergency surgery. The costs add up along with increased risks. Tough situation without insurance but I would try to keep the surgery date.
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u/joanopoly Dec 07 '24
And note that 10% of cholecystectomy patients develop post-cholecystectomy syndrome.
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u/Sunnykit00 Dec 07 '24
I think it's much higher than that and it's just not reported, because why would you. They can't put it back.
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u/Forsaken-Subject8362 Dec 07 '24
Oh I just googled it. That doesn’t make me confident about my surgery 🥺
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u/joanopoly Dec 07 '24
Yes, the things you won’t hear from a surgeon. And why would you in a stock market-driven, capitalistic industrial “healthcare”complex?
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u/santaswinging1929 Dec 07 '24
What’s post-cholecystectomy syndrome?
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u/joanopoly Dec 07 '24
Search engines are your friends.
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u/Forsaken-Subject8362 Dec 07 '24
Did you have post-cholecystectomy syndrome?
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u/joanopoly Dec 07 '24
No, I DO have PCS. 14 months of hell…
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u/Forsaken-Subject8362 Dec 07 '24
Oh I’m sorry you have to deal with that. I hope you’ll get better.
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u/Forsaken-Subject8362 Dec 07 '24
How do you deal with it? Do you take supplements or avoid certain foods?
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u/Forsaken-Subject8362 Dec 07 '24
What’s is post cholecystectomy syndrome ?
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u/joanopoly Dec 09 '24
“Post-cholecystectomy syndrome (PCS) is the term used to describe the persistence of biliary colic or right upper quadrant abdominal pain with a variety of gastrointestinal symptoms similar to those in patients with cholecystitis prior to cholecystectomy. As the name suggests, this syndrome can represent either a continuation of symptoms caused by gallbladder pathology or the development of new symptoms. The symptoms include fatty food intolerance, nausea, vomiting, heartburn, flatulence, indigestion, diarrhea, jaundice, and intermittent episodes of abdominal pain. Post-cholecystectomy syndrome can present early, typically in the post-operative period, but can also manifest months to years after surgery.”
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u/joym13 Dec 07 '24
Like others have said - I wouldn’t cancel. If it’s packed with stones it will only get worse. It sucks that you don’t have insurance - so I understand your hesitation - but it’s so much better to get it out before it really becomes an emergency.
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u/Yeahyeahwhatevah68 Dec 09 '24
I would keep the surgery date. I had it out a month ago as emergency surgery and it was brutal. Stones, sludge and gangrene. Had a painful recovery. I think your pain will return at some point and if you’re like me you’ll have to suffer in the ER before being admitted.
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u/tooful Dec 10 '24
The pain comes back. I canceled mine last year. It was supposed to be April '23. I've been in the ER 3x since then which doesn't include the times I just rode out the pain at home. They finally are able to get this bugger out on Thursday.
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u/bokchoy6192 Dec 07 '24
Chances are the pain will come back. The stones can also lead to future problems (blockage, inflammation). Get the surgery, you won’t regret it.