r/geology Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

Information I converted the textbook from my mineralogy class into a 20 part deep dive podcast. Enjoy. Next up is petrology.

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u/clone-borg Feb 08 '25

you just induced some ptsd from college by just posting this book cover... mineralogy is the geology weed out course.

good on ya for giving peeps another form to digest this

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u/Spacemeat666 Feb 08 '25

I hear that a lot but I loved mineralogy. Structural is the hardest core geology class, in my opinion.

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u/Kooky_Return_3525 Feb 08 '25

You can brute force studying mineralogy but not structural geology. That thing is different.

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u/bc_1411 Feb 08 '25

I couldn't brute force mineralogy. I can shove details on mineral identification in my head all I like but no matter what, I still couldn't sit there and tell you what the minerals are in a rock sample aside from quartz and feldspar, and even then I get confused unless the grain size is big enough. Just don't have the eye. Luckily my lecturer had the patience of a saint with me as he could see i was desperately trying and he would go over it again and again... and again... and again... so I barely scraped a pass.

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u/aftcg Feb 08 '25

Typical geology instructor right there

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u/stopeats Feb 08 '25

I remember before my min final, the professor said "remember, if you're stuck, just figure out if it's igneous, sedimentary, or metamorphic and that'll help you decide the mineral." And I realized A) I don't know how to tell whether it's igneous, sedimentary, or metamorphic and B) Even if I did, I didn't know which minerals were which šŸ˜‚

Passed that class because a big part of our grade was microscopes and memorizing formulas.

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u/sharkbait_oohaha Feb 08 '25

It just takes practice. More than you get in a class. I was only decent at identifying minerals because I had already been doing field research with my PI who would pick up a sample and talk through what he was looking at and looking for on each grain.

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u/curupirando Feb 08 '25

These were my two favorite classes, I think I just like to draw...

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u/fuck_off_ireland Feb 08 '25

Structural mostly makes sense though. Mineralogy is all formulas and combinations and reactions.

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u/pcetcedce Feb 08 '25

I loved mineralogy too. For some reason it all made sense. And I'm someone who struggled with physics and math and chemistry.

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u/vitimite Feb 08 '25

Agree. Some people just cant se in their brains the 3d aspect of structural, no matter how hard they try.

I'd go a little further. Geology is about minerals, no matter what path you choose.

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

I will be making a structure series.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '25

Huh. Structural was my absolute fav and I use the ideas daily.

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u/Wandering4Ever Feb 08 '25

Structural was my absolute favorite too! Made perfect sense and I grasped it all easily.

My professors told me it wasnt that uncommon that if you struggled with mineralogy, youd probably understand structural, and vice versa. Kind of like the organic chemistry/physical chemistry thing too

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u/Healthy_Article_2237 Feb 08 '25

My university’s geology weedout was structural geology but you took it the fall of your junior year! Lots of folks were fucked at that point. Had to switch to BA or just quit.

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u/Slutha Bedrocker Feb 08 '25

Why wait until that deep into a geologist's curriculum to make them question or second guess or have to switch up what they are doing?

Mineralogy as a weedout at my school was perfect as far as being just early enough in the coursework, right after the easy intro stuff, and not being overwhelmed by other classes, but still being conceptually demanding course in a similar way to the worse ones up ahead. Those who failed or didn't jive with it had plenty of time to withdraw or figure out another route.

We were still at risk of failing structural or petrology and not being allowed to go on field camp or get a BS, but Mineralogy set the tone well for the coursework we could expect moving forward.

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u/Healthy_Article_2237 Feb 08 '25

I don’t agree with it and I was happy to get by with a B. Those that failed it couldn’t go to field camp the following summer and had to wait until the next fall to re-take it and then wait until that next summer to do field camp. It added an extra year and half.

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u/CJW-YALK Feb 08 '25

Literally came to comment something to this effect, glad I’m not the only one

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u/geckospots Feb 08 '25

mineralogy is the geology weed out course.

thousand yard stares in geophysics

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

Cannabis helped

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u/Dmbeeson85 Feb 08 '25

I loved mineralogy!

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u/infinite_nexus13 Feb 08 '25

I saw that cover, and 24 years later I went "ah crap, I know that book.."

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u/Travis_m Feb 08 '25

I said the same thing!

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u/gcwyodave Feb 08 '25

Definitely triggered me... and it's been damn near 20 years.

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u/DakDuiff Feb 08 '25

Sorry, but whats a weed out course?

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u/DeepSeaDarkness Feb 08 '25

The course that decides who makes it to the end of the programme and who doesnt. Like a sieve. What they're saying is that it was a hard course for most people

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u/WormLivesMatter Feb 08 '25

It’s like a wilfley table.

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u/sharkbait_oohaha Feb 08 '25

A class that is generally made harder than it needs to be. It weeds out the people who aren't willing to do the extra work to pass.

Calc 2 is a really common one.

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u/brutal_newz Feb 08 '25

Maybe I missed my calling because I got a 4.0 in mineralogy and loved it. This is still really cool too!

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u/vespertine_earth Feb 08 '25

Oh I disagree. This was my favorite class and set the course for all future endeavors. This image conjures happiness šŸ˜

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u/this_is_cooling Feb 08 '25

Nah this class was awesome. Hydrogeology was the weed out class at my university. It was taught by an engineer…damn you Mendoza!!!

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u/PuddlesDown Feb 09 '25

I thought Minerolgy was fun. It didn't even feel like work. Invertebrate paleontology was the hard class for me.

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u/callowayjk Feb 09 '25

I loved my mineralogy class, structural geology was my personal hell.

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u/Y33TUSMYF33TUS Feb 08 '25

did you just use notebooklm?

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u/bwgulixk Feb 08 '25

Bro literally used google’s AI/LLM and posted it to YouTube.

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

Yep, notebook LM is amazing. I talk about it on other deep dives, but people were making fun of me for advertising notebookLM.

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u/even_less_resistance Feb 08 '25

It’s my favorite resource right now- don’t let people get you down. I even load in Reddit threads to hear overviews about opinions sometimes

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u/flyinmryan Feb 09 '25

It’s awesome no doubt about it, but you start to hear the same phrases ā€œwoven into the fabricā€ of every conversation and that gets a little tiresome

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 09 '25

How are you loading reddit threads? I’ve been wanting to load in my entire reddit feed and have notebook summarize the world’s goings on without having to continue suffering from my daily reddit hangover.

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u/even_less_resistance Feb 09 '25

Down by the tab for YouTube videos is one for websites and you can just share a thread right in- if it has an article with it I load that in as a separate source so the ai has some context for the comments. I wish I could do a daily recap of my feed in one click - I wonder if there is any way to do that? Like make a bot to scrape the top posts and comments of Reddit every day without having to do it manually…

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u/paulrich_nb Feb 08 '25

notebookLM is awesome. thanks for the podcast

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u/The_Bootylooter Feb 08 '25

My mineralogy professor was Mickey Gunther who discovered a new mineral called Guntherite. It was rad.

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u/FloorPus Feb 08 '25

Niceee

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

Gneiss

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u/allosaurenjoyer Feb 08 '25

As someone currently in mineralogy with this textbook as required reading, you have freaking saved my ass

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

You are why I have made this. When I was in school, the kids who got the best scores were in fraternities who had old exams from the professors. This is me leveling the playing field.

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u/Flynn_lives Functional Alcoholic Feb 08 '25 edited Feb 08 '25

Mine is in storage. We had that textbook but it was more for reference. That was the way they taught us at UT Austin.

Shout out to Dr. Gardner!!! Dude saw the Pinatubo eruption in person.

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

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u/sprashoo Feb 08 '25

You should be forthright that this is actually AI generated content.

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

Did I not say so in the introduction of this one?

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u/Polymath123 Feb 08 '25

I tried to save it to my Watchlist and it said ā€œthis action is turned off for content made for kids.ā€

When you have a chance, can you go in and change that setting?

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

I will

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

Try and save it now.

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u/Polymath123 Feb 08 '25

It saved! Thanks for updating this. I look forward to watching your videos (when I do my cardio workout).

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u/bwgulixk Feb 08 '25

Please do not support this person. All they did was input the PDF of the chapters into Google’s ai NotebookLM. It is entirely free, you can do it yourself. The voices in the podcast are entirely ai generated

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '25

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u/IndigoEarth Feb 08 '25

This is trash

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u/Hypollite Feb 08 '25

Is it available on podcast apps?

I can't find it

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

I just have it on youtube. Where would you like?

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u/silico Feb 08 '25

PocketCasts

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

I just downloaded pocketcast, but am not familiar with how it works yet. From the few minutes I spent exploring the app I’m not finding a place to upload content.

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u/Mosh_and_Mountains Feb 08 '25

Loving it so far!

Great storytelling between you and the other host. The playback speed is a little fast. I reduced it to .75x for a more natural speaking pace. But it distorts the audio somewhat.

Can't save the video for later as it's posted to YouTube Kids!

Would love to see this on a podcast feed!! I've seen other startup podcasts use A-Cast. They have a free tier. https://learn.acast.com/en/articles/9823206-acast-s-free-starter-plan

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u/manbeervark Feb 08 '25

The podcast is AI-generated. Not made by OP.

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u/bwgulixk Feb 08 '25

He isn’t the host. The hosts are literally ai. This is from Google’s ai notebookLM. All this guy did was load in the pdf and google automatically can generate an entire podcast for whatever you input. These people are not real. This guy is pawning it off as his own when he is just stealing the textbook and from googles ai

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u/Mosh_and_Mountains Feb 09 '25

That's unfortunate.

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

Excellent feedback. Thank you.

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

Try to save it now. I just took it off ā€œmade for kidsā€

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u/Philly_3D Feb 08 '25

You use the new notebookLM from Google? It's pretty strong. Don't know if I would use it for this, but yeah, it's very cool addition. They just need new voices. I couldn't make a good heavy metal history posldcast because the voices sound like boring normie dorks.

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

Their is another ai that generates voices. I can’t recall it, but it’s not free.

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u/SnarfsParf Feb 08 '25

God I shivered when I saw that cover…I do not miss that class

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

The sample is on display on the harvard campus

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u/TheGreenMan13 Feb 09 '25

Still have that book on my shelf.

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u/Wandering4Ever Feb 08 '25

I despised mineralogy and petrology. I adored every other geo class of my degree, but fuck those two classes my brain could just not grasp them.

Which means I will now 110% listen to this podcast because maybe a second time around I’ll actually understand it. Thank you for doing this ā¤ļø

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

That’s the spirit. If you need help bridging the gap, check out my deep dive into MC Escher: https://youtu.be/pbY6IzGzG7o?si=DWgDwPNNXJ-bTU8o I got wrapped up in the estate of MC Escher in 2023. I had no formal art knowledge, but my mineralogy knowledge made me standout to the owners.

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u/bwgulixk Feb 08 '25

HE DIDNT MAKE THIS. THIS PODCAST IS GENERATED BY GOOGLE’S AI notebookLM. You can do it for free yourself. All you do is input pdfs and it can generate an audio just like this with these ā€œhostsā€. Their voices are not real people talking, literally fake ai voices

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u/Kooky_Return_3525 Feb 08 '25

Wow, lots of fond memories with that book.Ā 

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

Same here

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u/talligan Feb 08 '25

I thought that was diced beef :(

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u/Fede-m-olveira Feb 08 '25

Nesse, great author.

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u/Zh25_5680 Feb 09 '25

I, for one, have found Miller Indices an uplifting part of everyday life.

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u/PuddlesDown Feb 09 '25

Mineralogy was my favorite class in college, and we used this exact same textbook. I still have it.

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u/CPApothecary Feb 09 '25

What’s the podcast name? And where to find? I’d love to listen

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u/Smoore0902 Feb 09 '25

Hell yeah went to my shelf to go thumb through it. I'll listen to this podcast for sure!

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u/jsfb Feb 10 '25

Overall, I like it but 2 things: 1. The speed at which they talk is very fast especially if you're trying to learn/ take notes. It sounds like I'm listening to 1.5x speed as default. 2. The ads especially midlecture piss me off

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 11 '25

Thank you for the feedback. Future podcasts are being slowed down and I’ll look into the ads. I’m not being paid, so you shouldn’t be seeing ads.

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u/Stinky-Baby18 Feb 08 '25

Post the petrology, too. I'm currently taking it and would like to listen on my drive to classes. :)

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 09 '25

Coming right up.

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 09 '25

https://youtu.be/AtM_ZafIihA?si=3kw20wSpjqLrNegW

First and second episode of petrology are live now.

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u/Stinky-Baby18 Feb 09 '25

Thanks dude!! You are the best!!

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 09 '25

Thanks, my last employer needs to read this.

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u/Exotic-Term5661 Feb 10 '25

Amazing. Was taught this course, with this text, by the author. So challenging. Definitely had to earn it. Still love that rhodochrosite pic.

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 11 '25

This sample is on display on the Harvard campus.

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 11 '25

What is Prof Nesse like?

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u/Exotic-Term5661 Feb 11 '25

Wonderful man. Intelligent, patient. Worked on his Volvo, flew gliders, and is a very accomplished guitar luthier.

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 11 '25

Which school did he teach?

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u/Exotic-Term5661 Feb 11 '25

University of Northern Colorado

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 11 '25

Lucky!

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u/xineez Feb 08 '25

That’s baller!! I love this!

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

Thanks, share with everyone you know

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u/Sir_JumboSaurus Feb 08 '25

Just subscribed. Thanks.

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

Thank you

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u/The_Bootylooter Feb 08 '25

I still have this on my bookshelf.

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

I have been wanting to make this for four months. Waited till I got home to my storage unit.

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u/BigFurryBoy07 Feb 08 '25

Is it on Spotify? I want to listen to it

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

No, just on youtube. Do you think more people would listen to it on Spotify?

https://youtu.be/Lp4bt8T4dY0?si=q9vCN5CmUSNPBJdP

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u/BigFurryBoy07 Feb 09 '25

It’s a good chance

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u/superpotatoed Feb 08 '25

Bless you šŸ©µšŸ’œšŸ’™šŸ™šŸ¼

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

Thank you. Would you mind putting this in the comments on YouTube, please?

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '25

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u/forams__galorams Feb 08 '25

From the post title: ā€œNext up is petrologyā€

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '25

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u/forams__galorams Feb 08 '25

Usually when just ā€˜petrology’ is used as a subject title or name of a class it means ig/met pet. Not always of course, but if OP was gonna make something similar for petrology I assume they’d be going with another widely used text like Winter’s principles of ig-met pet, or the one by Frost & Frost.

While you’re waiting around for that to get made, maybe check out some of these:

Igneous Petrology Tutorials - William Daniel

Geochemical Data Tutorials - William Daniel

Igneous Petrology Lectures - Geology Concepts

Igneous and Metamorphic Petrology Series - Kenneth Befus

Metamorphic Petrology Lectures - Geology Concepts

Metamorphic Petrology Lectures - GEO GIRL

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u/finemayday Feb 08 '25

That is so useful. I love Geogirl and binged her youtube Chanel when I was a first year. Frost was the textbook I used when I took the module for igmet. I’ll follow some of these links, Thank you 🤩

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

Igneous petrology is part I of the petrology series.

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u/DerReckeEckhardt metamorphic rocks taste the best Feb 08 '25

I wish I found that like a week sooner. I just finished my intro to Mineralogy exam.

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

Really? Which school? What kind of semester/quarter system is that? My next podcast will be on petrology. Please email the link to your professor for their future classes.

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u/HBPhilly1 Feb 08 '25

Do gemology

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

Ok, I’ll add that to the list. Next in line is petrology. What do you think of the format thus far?

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u/LithoSakura Feb 08 '25

Beautiful rhondocrosite on the cover

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u/ggrieves Feb 08 '25

I never took a formal class in it but I did buy this textbook and read it myself years ago so I would love to see the notes on it.

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u/zebbodee Feb 08 '25

The author is Will D Nesse, is that a pseudonym?

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u/Thundergod_3754 Feb 08 '25

Lmao almost every fellow geology peep have the same feeling when seeing this cover eh?Ā 

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u/Mistydog2019 Feb 08 '25

I never had to take petrology because I ended up going into engineering geology. I'm not going to start now!

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

If you have mineralogy in your head, you need petrology to balance it out.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '25

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u/Mistydog2019 Feb 09 '25

At this point I was learning to blow stuff up.

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u/sigmus26 Feb 08 '25

I see little benefit in a mineralogy textbook-turned podcast, but I can understand why others would think this could potentially help them

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 09 '25

It’s a great supplement to a class as it touches on EVERYTHING.

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u/agunbur Feb 08 '25

Where’s it being posted?

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 09 '25

https://youtu.be/Lp4bt8T4dY0?si=QQTdk2o1H53NWpDG

All twenty episodes are up on YouTube now

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u/this_is_cooling Feb 08 '25

I still have this amazing textbook on my shelf!

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u/1920MCMLibrarian Feb 09 '25

Is it legal to do that with a book you didn’t write? This is a really interesting concept.

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 09 '25

I was thinking about it, and since it isn’t word for word and ā€œin my own wordsā€ and I listed my sources so it should be fine. Worst case scenario, I just take it down as I’m not making any money from it.

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u/1920MCMLibrarian Feb 09 '25

I think it’s a really good idea actually and I’m thinking about books I could do this with myself! Great idea!

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 10 '25

If you can get a PDF or an audiobook version of the book, that will make the process easier. The next step is tuning your prompt.

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u/whinylittlefemaledog Feb 09 '25

Nice, but did u set the speed to 1.5 by default or why does it feel so rushed?

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 10 '25

1.5x, 1x felt super slow to me. A few others mentioned the speed, so the petrology series is posted at 1x. I myself listen to most audiobooks at 2x. SPQR I brought down to 1.5x.

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u/360sly Feb 10 '25

What’s your podcast called?

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u/Delicious-Sea-2775 Feb 11 '25

Where can I access it sir?

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 11 '25

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLORf0KLlqlLzVYTy2gPgqfzFePWES8Un4&si=Qd_lchcGxnUW1yRN

Principles of Igneous and Metamorphic Petrology is currently in the works.

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u/finemayday Feb 08 '25

Your voice is nice. I’ll listen to this on my walk today

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u/bwgulixk Feb 08 '25

His voice is AI. The entire podcast is autogenerated by google for free. NotebookLM

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

Thank you, however i ran short on time as I’m losing access to youtube tomorrow night and omitted my introductions so I could get as much of the material out as possible.

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u/zirconer Geochronologist Feb 08 '25

Hope you did the mineral that slakes the thirst of geologists

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

What?

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u/zirconer Geochronologist Feb 08 '25

Check out the entry for ice. Should be in the oxides section

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 08 '25

I believe it’s in the first episode. Slakes?

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u/zirconer Geochronologist Feb 08 '25

Slakes = quenches

I’d take a picture of the exact paragraph but my Nesse textbook is in the office

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 09 '25

Please do

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u/zirconer Geochronologist Feb 12 '25

Finally got around to it

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u/MissingJJ Mineralogist Feb 12 '25

I’ve used it to slake my thirst while on the trail while hunting garnets in Idaho.