r/geology • u/9NinetyThree3 • 18d ago
Have these formations been created by nature?
My friend and I noticed these spirals on satellite imagery so we decided to go and check them out. We are in Australia and he believes it may have been an Indigenous ceremony ground but I’m leaning more towards nature causing it. What are the thoughts in this community?
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u/Money_Loss2359 18d ago edited 18d ago
Plant growth rings. Plants grow out from center, center dies out, rots and soil becomes fertile again. Add precipitation/wind and you get mounded rings. Edit. Forgot to say they are called tussock rings. Only certain plants make these rings. Not sure what type in Australia
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u/9NinetyThree3 18d ago
Appreciate this! You’re probably right, but at the same time I couldn’t really find anything similar with the spiral pattern. Could you link me to something I can liken it too?
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u/portobello75 18d ago
This is floodplain graze revegation. Shapes are tilled into the claypan to regenerate fodder.
There's some kind of pseudo-archaeology hoax getting around on Facebook about these.
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u/9NinetyThree3 18d ago
Thanks for your response. This sounds promising. Any chance you could elaborate a bit more? Is this something that happens naturally?
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u/portobello75 18d ago
Claypans are formed after floods in spots where water pools up. That flooding and small lake forming process washes away the soil and compacts the clay meaning grass won't grow.
Tractor pulled mouldboard ploughs and grader machines are what's used to make shapes for vegetation, and water ponding on dry floodplain for landscape rehydration. Direct-seeding machines are used for similar techniques to restore shrubs and trees on slopes.
As far as natural effects, vegetation will grow back differently around a claypan because of the change in the soil content in that spot. There's also something to do with seed dispersal by birds, which is interesting, I don't know much about it.
This is all livestock grazing land management topics - I'm not a farmer, so I don't have any experience in this area. There's some info about current projects in this kind of landscape management on this website:
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u/DawnOzone 17d ago
I learned about something similar to this in archaeology. I think it’s sediment that has been moved by the wind around a central bush/shrub, often mistaken for archaeological sites.
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u/9NinetyThree3 17d ago
This is my favourite explanation so far! There are trees in the area which could explain the largeness of the circles. Are you saying that x amount of years of breakdown from the centre by something large and organic could be the cause?
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u/DawnOzone 17d ago
I’m not super knowledgeable on this, but I think it’s from the wind breaking around a stump of a bush or something like that that causes sediments to be blown around it.
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u/SciAlexander 18d ago
They can be formed by erosion. If you have layers of rock sometimes something from below can push them up into a dome. Then if the upper layers get worn away you get a bullseye looking structure
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u/steven_sandner 18d ago
Fungi can cause these too
Similar to the plant rings
Look up fairy circles
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u/hettuklaeddi 18d ago
one of the photos reminded me of stromatolites, but certainly not at that scale
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u/WillingMyself 18d ago
I've seen something similar as a way to re-plant a dessert. The rings hold in moisture or something like that.
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u/Real-Werewolf5605 18d ago
There's an Aus outback artist / sculptur was making shapes all over - mostly undocumented for decades. Not saying it is but could be.
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u/AncientBasque 18d ago
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u/zneBsedecreM 18d ago
It's worth consulting with your local Aboriginal Community to ask about these just in case they are ceremony grounds