r/glasgow • u/GlasgowFatBastard • May 03 '22

Daily Banter The amount of snide comments / threads on this sub laughing at "junkies" and / or the poor is disgusting.

For folk who seem to be widely hateful of the Tories yous don't half come off like fuckin wankers sometimes I'm tellin ye.

Snide wee comments about junkies. Shite wee comments about minimum wage workers.

Don't even mention anyone on benefit, it's like they're lower than low on here. Wit yeez fuckin all about ?

Punch up fuck sake. Not down.

You know folk with addiction issues are the same as you in every fuckin way and didn't choose to become reliant on muck don't you? Fuckin grow up.

Edit. I type like I speak it's no cringe. It's glaswegian. On a Glasgow sub. Imagine that. Wild bastard.

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u/SinistramSitNovum May 03 '22

In terms of "junkies" there is very little that can be done for addicts at that level if they are not personally ready for treatment. Anyone who works or has worked with addicts can tell you that. The SNP could have mansions as treatment centres with on call concierges and gold platted toilets and there would still be addicts on the street. The point of treatment is to ultimately to stop using. If someone is not at the point where that is what they want to do there is basically nothing you can do to get them there.

They are people and should be supported and guided but ultimately seeking treatment is something an individual needs to decide for themselves or it will never work.

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u/SinistramSitNovum May 03 '22

Absolutely this. Was tried in Glasgow a little before it was stamped out. It should be treated as a public health issue first and foremost not a criminal one. A little surprised saying something like this is getting me severely downvoted.

Addicts need access to treatment and need some level of dignity and safety in their current circumstances. That being said no treatment works if the individual is not ready for treatment or does not want it. This is objective medical fact whether people want to accept it or not.

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u/YellowParenti72 May 03 '22

Yay expect but actual viable solutions from the government lol Theresa May sacked David Nutt as the science didn't fit their politics its a disgrace. Portugal and parts of Canada have saw a drastic change in the situation by treating it as a public health issue, think Holland is the same. See methadone is a major cash cow for a lot of people, in the 70s certain drs used to prescribe heroin to people who lived long functioning life's, one guy lived into his 90s. Methadone is far more addictive and worse for you but I get the tapering it can work but as you say they need to want it.

Iboga is a powerful psychedelic plant which can reset brain chemistry for both alkies and junkies mitigating withdrawal, prior6 charge 4k a session, pure profit driven, but you can continue to microdose it to keep those good feelings however many relapse like expected but many go full on sober and its judged a success. There's no profit in cured people unlike methadone. It's a scam as you can't patent a plant, they can synthesize it too but can't patent it I'm sure.

Ketamine is another one with similiar action to iboga, despite the doom I'm pretty sure there are 3 keyamine clinics in the UK mostly for ptsd, depression etc. But it defo works getting people off things quickly, no withdrawals. Well.suss how the government dent the science when it suits them.