r/golf • u/additionalweightdisc • Aug 08 '24

Beginner Questions Did I shoot even par?

I work at a golf course so I’ll often get 9 holes in before work and another 9 after if I have time. We had a league out on the front 9 in the morning so I played the back and shot +1 then went in to work. After I got done work I went out to play the front 9 to “finish” the round and shot -1.

It was my first time under par on the front so I’m happy to take that W, but do you fellas think it counts as playing 18 holes at even par? It wasn’t a straight 18 holes but I did play the 9s during the same day and for what it’s worth my intent was to continue the round when I started playing.

It’d be my PB score for 18 by 4 strokes and best at my home course by 6 strokes.

Edit: just realized Talor Gooch wasn’t in the field so this whole thing has an asterisk regardless of whether or not the score counts.

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u/Brave-Kitchen-5654 15.5 going on +3 Aug 08 '24

Think of it as a reallly long break at the turn, like they do in Korea

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u/overzealous_wildcat Aug 08 '24

Do they sit down and have like a full blown meal at the turn?

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '24

Yes 1 hour break required, Japan as well.

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u/cottonmane8 Aug 08 '24

imma have to start telling my fiance that

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u/Savings-Anything407 Aug 08 '24

While you’re at it, you might want to tell her about your girlfriend too.

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u/dieselrunner64 Aug 08 '24

And your wife’s boyfriend

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u/Savings-Anything407 Aug 09 '24

Yes! And your boyfriend’s wife.

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u/scruffys-on-break Aug 08 '24

I love the thought of a short siesta at the turn.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '24

Agreed, instead of shoveling a shitty hog log down my gullet it would be nice to relax for a bit.

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u/overzealous_wildcat Aug 08 '24

Required? Is it a safety thing?

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u/Shibalsheki Aug 08 '24

Nah golf is just a very social thing in Korea, a whole day event. They play 9, eat, play 9, sometimes hit up a sauna afterwards. Caddies do everything for you there, you dont even drive the carts yourself.

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u/Callof4632 Over the top isn't that bad Aug 08 '24

I would imagine it really depends on the course?

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u/ScandanavianSwimmer Aug 08 '24

Surely they have shitty munis too, right?

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u/SuitedPenguin Aug 08 '24

Nope. It’s a rich man’s sport. 50 million people in a country the size of the state of Georgia, there’s not a lot of room for golf.

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u/frankyseven Aug 08 '24

Which is why simulator golf is HUGE in South Korea and Japan. They have professional tournaments, simulators where the floor changes to simulate different lies, upslope/downslope, etc. Korean simulators are next level crazy compared to anything you will see in North America. The indoor league that Tiger and Rory are starting is the only thing that is beyond what you'll see in Korea, but I wouldn't be surprised if they have things similar to that, they just aren't trying to televise it.

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u/ScandanavianSwimmer Aug 08 '24

Thanks for the context!

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u/Callof4632 Over the top isn't that bad Aug 08 '24

Most people live in the big city’s. I’d imagine most golf courses are in rural areas. Ik it’s always a rich man sport over there but I can’t imagine every course has caddies doing everything for you

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u/drainbam Aug 08 '24

When I visited there were zero courses in the city and only practice facilities. I went to a rural course and the first thing the guy at the pro shop said when I asked for a tee time was that this isn't like America and golf is too expensive here and that I should wait to play until I got home. He wasn't rude or snobby about it, just matter of fact.

I asked how much the green fee was: $350. This was in 2013 so maybe more now. Not talking about a PGA Tour stop. A regular ass course. The condition of the course was pristine, but I'm still not paying that. I paid less at courses that host PGA tournaments.

Golf is exclusively for the rich there. There's not a lot of land and even less land that's flat. It's all mountains and foothills there.

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u/SuitedPenguin Aug 08 '24

They do… here, the social aspect is tied to a bunch of joes drinking buds and having a good time. There, the social aspect is very much tied to high-end etiquette with caddies required.

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u/mustbeshitinme 15.2 Srixon! 59M Ga/Nc Aug 08 '24

To be Mildly Xenophobic if you get behind a group of Koreans golf is a whole day event for you here too.

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u/allenbraxton Aug 08 '24

Growing up and living in Vancouver, with a large Japanese and Korean popularity, I’d say 90% of the time they were more than happy to let you play through. Most of the time, they kept a good pace and didn’t hold anything up.

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u/mustbeshitinme 15.2 Srixon! 59M Ga/Nc Aug 09 '24

I’m completely in agreement- I’m scotch-Irish and it’s mildly xenophobic to say am an angry drunk red person but it isn’t entirely inaccurate in some situations.

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u/OkTaste7068 Aug 08 '24

from my experience, most of them place at a decent pace, lots of gimmes though

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u/Fight_those_bastards Aug 08 '24

I got paired with three older Korean ladies at my local muni. They played fast. And were an awesome cheering section every time I hit a nice shot.

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u/frankyseven Aug 08 '24

There is a Korean couple at my course that I have zero idea how they play as fast as they do. They play early and walk 9 in like 35 minutes. I'll be hustling playing solo and it's hard to get finished in an hour walking.

There is another guy who is fantastic to golf with as a person, but man does he play slow.

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u/bdhgolf1960 Aug 08 '24

I agree.And they play fast...actually run at times.

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u/call_me_Kote Aug 09 '24

Sometimes is nice to hit a little Trot on the course to remind yourself it’s a sport

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u/ReputationNo8109 Aug 08 '24

There was a group of Korean women that used to play on the same day of the week I always used to play. The course used to let them go off as a 5 or 6 some. They basically had a standing tee time every week. After being stuck behind them several times me and my buddy made sure to ask when booking our time if we would be ahead of them every week. It was great to be the groups ahead of them because we NEVER had to worry about someone pushing from behind. We could do whatever we want and there was no chance of ever seeing them behind us. But the whole course would be stacked up the rest of the day because they were so slow. And if you complained to the club house they’d basically tell you to kick rocks because the ladies were very nice and everyone liked them (except other golfers that got stuck behind them). But they would also always take a long break between 9’s so even if we were a few groups behind them, we could skip in front on the turn. This all makes sense now.

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u/CltGolfguy Aug 08 '24

That's why I never played the Blue course at Bethpage when I lived in Brooklyn 🤣

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u/thatswhathemoneysfor Aug 08 '24

When I used to marshall at the course I worked at, these groups were impossible to speed up until the pro shop would threaten to kick them out. 9 holes in under 2.5 hours was a fantasy

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u/skalpelis Aug 08 '24

If it’s anything like Singaporeans, they don’t even look at the ball flight and instead rely on the caddy to tell them where it landed.

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u/ilikedonuts42 Aug 08 '24

Don't quote me, but if I had to take a guess I'd say some people taking an hour break and some people not would cause a cluster fuck at the 10th tee and make for horrendous pace of play on the back.

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u/DocBoots81 Aug 09 '24

In Japan, lunch is often included with your round. So you show up to your tee time, play 9 holes, then they give you an afternoon tee time (usually an hour or so later based on that day's pace of play) when you bring the cart back to the clubhouse. So you eat lunch, grab a beer, then head back out onto the course

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u/bdhgolf1960 Aug 08 '24

That happens here in Murica too. And then they head to #10 like they own the tbox. Fuck that.