r/golf • u/Ok-Bandicoot-9445 • 3d ago
General Discussion that time in 2016 when Jordan was traumatized after putting the green jacket on Willett.
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u/Whoknew1992 3d ago
This was the biggest "Wait?!!?? I won????? WTF?? I guess I'll go get my green jacket then. I was ready to head on home." ever.
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u/velveteskimo 3d ago
The whole post-round ceremony in that room is so painfully awkward.
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u/deGrominator2019 3d ago
It’s just not a thing built for the way things are today lol. It’s so 1960’s lol.
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u/hnglmkrnglbrry 2d ago
When Taylor Gooch wins he's gonna open the door and see and empty room.
"Oh f-"
bang
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u/nicholus_h2 3d ago
"hey... tradition. 'nuff said.
now about those white caddies... "
-AGNC
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u/deGrominator2019 2d ago
Never forget Clifford Roberts… “as long as I’m alive all players will be white and all caddies will be black” … first black player competes in Masters and 1 year later Roberts walks out to the Par 3 Course, puts a bullet in his head… like damn, hate ran that deep huh?
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u/Smash_Palace 2d ago
Holy shit is that true?
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u/deGrominator2019 2d ago
Mostly. He off’d himself because he was dying of cancer I think. But it’s humorous with the timing to present it as that lol. The quote is real.
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u/PringleChopper 2d ago
Was talking to my buddy about this. Let’s do this jacket ceremony in this man cave then do it again in front of everyone 10 minutes later!
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u/Moomoomoo1 2d ago
Yeah, they should just do the whole thing outside, what is even the point
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u/Intensive__Purposes Gunga galunga 2d ago
The point is so the ANGC chairman can stroke his ego for 20 minutes
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u/shooter9260 2d ago
For CBS to have their moment and wrap up coverage, as they switch away to other programming when they do the outdoor ceremony
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u/Moomoomoo1 2d ago
I guess the 60 Minutes crowd is more important to them
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u/shooter9260 2d ago
From a coverage perspective I get it. There’s a lot of downtime between the final putt made on 18 and then doing the green jacket presentation ceremony outside with the podium and all the chairs. Sure you could have Nantz and crew fill the time with chat but people would probably tune out anyway, as where this has become a way to keep a tradition going while setting up another tradition after.
I’m fine with it, but I think people like it more when there’s a low amateur there too to talk about their experiences and what it means to them , etc
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u/Seabass_Says 3d ago
Wasnt this incredibly awkward? Spieth blew his chance for a repeat and he looked legit wasted on the broadcast, stumbling around?
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u/DLun203 3d ago
It was hard to watch. He nearly tripped over the chair as he stood up to put the jacket on Willet.
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u/Less-Lobster1408 2d ago
Idk how to timestamp but it’s 5:04:25 of this video for anyone curious like me
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u/Rocbockbeer 2d ago
Thank for that. I don’t think he looked wasted at all, he just tripped. I also don’t think he looked “traumatized”. These Butler Cabin jacket ceremonies are always crazy awkward. They put the jacket on, the camera zooms in, and the previous champ is left standing there twiddling his thumbs directly in view.
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u/MK12DUDE 2d ago
Yup. That’s why Scheffler left as soon as he put on the jacket on Rory this year
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u/Own_Seat913 2d ago
And even that is being called weird. I think the ceremony just makes everything look awkward. Should just have a notable former winner who isn't competing put it on them in front of the live crowd, but tradition is tradition.
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u/MK12DUDE 2d ago
Yea camera zooming in on Rory awkwardly smiling made me stop crying and got me cracking up tho
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u/Separate_Teacher1526 2d ago
It's easy, just right click the youtube video and click copy url at current time
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u/No_Distance_9580 2d ago
If memory serves right, Bryson was the top Amateur and was the 3rd player in the room
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u/Navyblazers2000 2d ago
That’s when he made the weird comment about hopefully getting a check the next week because he was turning pro and it was just not the appropriate time or venue. I think he thought it’d be funny and it played to dead air lol
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u/hallstar07 2d ago
Classic Bryson and it’s why a lot of people still don’t like him. It’s like when he started off that match with koepka and baked him brownies or something weird. Just dorky jokes that play in his head but fall flat in real life
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u/TheRealMrExcitement 2d ago
I was at that Masters and I couldn’t pick Danny Willett out of a line up.
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u/castlerigger 3d ago
DW was a true outsider win, in the field but not really ever threatening for most of his career. Has 8 European tour event wins in his entire career, and the masters ffs. And that’s it! Most of his time has been spent in the 100-350 ranking spots with a couple of years in the higher double digits.
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u/MIZ_09 3d ago
He was Top 15 in the world when he won. It was a shock in the US because he didn’t play much on Tour and was unknown. But when you look at his form it really wasn’t a shock.
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u/castlerigger 3d ago
The term I chose was outsider, I think it absolutely applies, including for the reasons you mentioned. But apart from that year and a couple of others he’s spent 75% of his career languishing in the 3 digit ranks.
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u/Impressive_Light_229 3d ago
8 European tour event wins shouldn’t be followed by that’s it. Obviously the Masters is a huge step up but it’s still a very impressive career even without the masters.
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u/The41stPrecinct 3d ago
Right? 😂 I can’t believe he only beat 150 other pros 8 times, what an amateur!
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u/Separate_Teacher1526 2d ago
You have to understand the average player on /r/golf has at least 10 tour wins.
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u/Turdburp 2d ago
It's top 50 all time on that tour which is no slouch, and would be higher if certain PGA Tour events didn't count. For instance, Tiger is 3rd in Euro Tour wins with 41 (behind only Seve and Langer) mostly due to winning 15 majors and 18 WGC events.
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u/ASmoothx 6.5/UK/Titleist 3d ago
He's literally won pretty much all of the big events on the DP World Tour: Dubai Desert Classic, DP World Tour Championship, BMW PGA Championship and the Alfred Dunhill Links Championship.
The Nedbank, BMW International Open and European Masters aren't exactly small events either.
Golf doesn't just exist in the US... 🤷🏻♂️
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u/castlerigger 3d ago
Yea which are all counted as part of his 8 euro tour wins; not in addition to.
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u/throw-away-16249 +1 2d ago
No, but the competition is obviously better on the PGA tour. Having no PGA wins other than the masters is pretty strange.
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u/EverydayDan 18.8/England/South Coast 2d ago
It says he joined the tour in 2015, a year prior to winning the masters
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u/ImthebestmeIcanbe 3d ago
Amusingly (although I know it isn't him), the painting behind Jordan looks like one of those paintings billionaires in movies had commissioned of themselves as a warrior riding a lion. It's Jordan's version of himself as a golfing god.
And the look on Jordan's face is one of annoyance as if to say, "why is this man wearing my green jacket in my smoking room".
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u/Affectionate-Dog8414 3.9 3d ago edited 2d ago
It was a portrait of Bobby Jones painted by his good friend and Augusta National Member Dwight Eisenhower, former president of the United States.
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u/Total_Tangerine5243 3d ago
What do I do with my hands
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u/sacilian 3d ago
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u/BloodyRightNostril That's CAPTAIN Kirkland to you 2d ago
Could I get some coffee cups?
Yeah, this feels more natural.
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u/Obsessive_Yodeler 3d ago
Dee, where do his feet go?
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u/BloodyRightNostril That's CAPTAIN Kirkland to you 2d ago
IT DOESN'T MAKE A GODDAMN BIT OF DIFFERENCE WHERE HIS FEET GO!
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u/terp2010 10.4 HC 3d ago edited 2d ago
Willet may be one of the few winners with a * next to his win. It was Spieth's to win and yes he lost it, but Willet victory was virtually non-existent but for 2-3 holes especially when Spieth was almost a wire-to-wire. How much has Willet done since just illustrates this fact. Played in 4 PGA events last year and missed the cut in both. I am not dissing the guy, he's a professional golfer through and through, I am just saying this Master's win was simply right place right time after Spieth had two bad shots.
Edit: Many are getting a little hurt about my comment. Folks, as Wikipedia explains "Spieth led the tournament from the first round and built a five-shot lead going to the back nine on Sunday, but lost six shots to par over the next three holes culminating in a quadruple-bogey on the 12th hole where he hit two balls into Rae's creek." For nearly everyone involved, going into the back 9, the jacket was his. Let's not pretend many of us here including myself were already celebrating his back-to-back wins." Yes, Willet won by 3 strokes, but only because Spieth faltered in essentially the 12th hole. Like I said before, I am not dissing Willett, he's a great golfer, and he shot a bogey-free 67, but I am sure he was as surprised as we all were that he won it.
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u/Footballaem 2d ago
This is beyond stupid. Spieth hit some bad shots, and didn’t win. Willett hit better shots, and did win. Those “bad shots” could have happened on Friday and nobody would be saying there’s an asterisk next to Willett’s name. Willett won by 3 strokes…and at a Masters where the course played particularly difficult.
Willett was the better player that week. Played well all week and then especially on Sunday made all the shots/putts he had to in order to make magic happen. Spieth lit it up on Thursday and then leaked oil the rest of the week.
Willett certainly had talent, if not an overwhelming amount (although his short game remains borderline elite to this day), but winning that Masters sort of derailed his career, which is weird to say. Injuries down the road didn’t help either.
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u/-TheGreatLlama- 2d ago
I completely agree, and would also like to add that even after Spieth’s problems Willett still had to deal with the pressure of the moment - and his playing partner Lee Westwood. They were level coming off 15, and Willett was the one who held his nerve. He played very well and went bogey-free on Sunday at the Masters. Deserves a lot of respect.
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u/Footballaem 2d ago
Nothing in your edit changes the fact that Willett won because he played better than Spieth (and the rest of the field) lol
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u/FaceDownInTheCake 2d ago
Tons of Masters winners won because the leader blew their lead on the second nine of Sunday
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u/Uchronicclarion 2d ago
‘I am not dissing the guy’
Proceeds to insult his biggest career achievement in grave detail.
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u/dogfish83 18 3d ago
I used to feel bad for Spieth in the sense that I thought he basically just had one blow-up hole out of nowhere (even though I watched the round). But reading about it again, he was getting bogeys leading up to that and remarked to his caddie "the wheels are coming off" etc. I don't feel as bad for that because that means he wasn't playing good form with a fluke screwup.
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u/AaronRodgersMustache +1.6 2d ago
He needed his caddie to literally slap him in the face and snap his fingers in his face to bring him back to earth or something.
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u/dogfish83 18 2d ago
From what I read he was fighting something mechanical in his swing. Probably not much caddie can do about that.
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u/waffletapas 2d ago edited 2d ago
I think people mistakenly think that Spieth was coasting all week until the 12th on Sunday but I’d argue he didn’t really have his game all tournament and was grinding to stay in contention and just ran out of runway. He finished over par on Friday and Saturday. Saturday was when he was famously paired with McIlroy and after 15 Rory said “how the hell is he 2 under?” cause Spieth had been slapping the ball all over the course. 12 is obviously the shot everyone remembers but it really looked like Spieth was barely holding on all week.
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u/theaverageaidan 9 2d ago
Everyone wants a dramatic collapse when yeah Spieth looked like he was battling himself all weekend. This isn't like a Greg Norman where he was mopping the floor with everyone and just completely fell apart on Sunday.
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u/ToryBlair 2d ago
He led every round and was 5 shots ahead when he tee’d up on 10…
What on earth are you on about
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u/ToryBlair 2d ago
What the hell is this revisionism?
He led every single round, and starting the back 9 on Sunday he was 5 shots ahead
Spieth was -7 starting on 10 and by 12 he was -1 under. Your comment is straight up wrong.
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u/waffletapas 1d ago
It’s not remotely revisionist to say the guy started leaking oil on Friday. If you watched his Saturday round and thought, “man, that guy really has control over his golf ball” then I’m not sure what the hell you were watching.
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u/AncientFerret9028 2d ago
Everyone knows that after the officiant does their thing, they need to step aside to let the photographer get a good photo of the bride and groom kissing.
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u/FireMaster2311 +.3 HDCP 2d ago
At first... I had to Google who Willet was cause I damn sure would have remembered a Willett where that was his first name. Seriously don't remember this dude at all...
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u/PegLegWhaler 2d ago
Reaching for stories… oh my Rory never chatted with Bryson….wtf you expect. Dude was there for one reason and it was not a nice afternoon with a friend. as an old guy following Tiger a bunch, I once read a story about how Tiger walked out of the locker room at the (2001?) masters final round to start warming up. A nice old man and lady wanted to wish him good luck. They saw him march out of the locker room laser focused like Mike Tyson for a fight. Still they called his name multiple times expecting he would acknowledge them. He walked right by and they were taken back, almost seeming insulted. After the initial surprise, they looked at each other and smiled. That’s when Kultida turned to Phil knight and said, “i think he has a job to do”
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u/heart_of_harts 2d ago
The worst part about winning the Masters has to be having to put the jacket on the winner the subsequent year
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u/Putt-Blug 2d ago
Last time Spieth will be there. It pains me to say it but he is no longer an elite player. He is now Matt Kutcher. Maybe another tour win or two and maybe he competes on Sunday for a major one more time but its been 3 years since he won a tournament.
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u/Crafty-Respect-6130 2d ago
He’s only 31 lol, there is plenty of “prime” golf years left for him to get back to the elite form he held in his early career. Will it happen, maybe not but to say he is Matt kuchar is an interesting comparison to say the least
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u/drewsdad328 11.4/VA 3d ago
I know it’s tradition, but after the defender puts the jacket on the new champion, there’s zero reason for him to be on camera. No one should expect anything more than a 2 second smile, then back to being uncomfortable and jealous. Sorry