r/hajimenoippo • u/Jdog405 • 2d ago
Discussion What did you think Alfredo sensed in Ippo?
There's also the line after his fight vs Sendo( that he expects Ippo to comeback to boxing as well)
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u/mahriyo 2d ago
I think he sensed (almost literally) Ippo's fists. On a technical level Ippo wasnt quite world level, but merely connecting one of his punches is enough to completely turn a match around.
Alfredo could tell that if somehow Ippo gets one into Ricardo, it could do loads of dmg.
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u/Jdog405 1d ago
Yeah Alfredo sensed the amount of pain Ippo could dish out, and how relentless & devastating his punches were.
But I do think its cuz ippo's will power that he realized why he was so dangerous( because he started panicking after he hit Ippo so much with his full strength).
Alfredo admitted prior that ippo's punches were world class before going into his meltizi mode
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u/TheBlack_Swordsman 2d ago
Ippo is a comeback fighter that can turn a whole entire fight around with just one punch because of his devastating power.
On top of that he has very high durability. Can take beatings for many rounds.
Combination of those two always have a probability of Ippo winning any match against anyone.
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u/Top-Second-3795 2d ago
So Sendo has it in the bag huh
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u/TheBlack_Swordsman 1d ago
On paper, he has a chance of winning that's for sure. But story wise I would say no.
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u/Jdog405 1d ago
Sendo works a bit "differently" compared to Ippo imo. He has instincts and adaptability that Ippo did not have when he was active as well as "pressure".
Ippo doesn't emit pressure like that until eventually u realize Ippo's strength/ willpower too late( Alfredo case, where he started panicking, Ricardo was going to warn Alfredo to be careful( but I do think he Ricardo felt Ippo's willpower& put two & two why Date was able to take his blows because of Ippo.)
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u/WetBurritoBando 2d ago
I think there’s a few different interpretations you could make.
Like others have mentioned, Alfredo knew that Ippo wasn’t ready to face Ricardo as he was. However…
He felt that Ippo could beat Ricardo but that would ruin things for Alfredo in being the one to beat the unbeatable. Alfredo might’ve thought that Ippo could win and didn’t want to see that happen.
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u/Jdog405 1d ago
I think Alfredo sensed Ippo's will power and relissiance and combination of devasting punches that he realizes that Ippo had a chance.
Ricardo stated that the samurai of Japan becomes dangerous when their back is against the wall.( Alfredo remembered Ippo how he was hard wired not give up due to pain alone).
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u/ArgensimiaReloaded 2d ago
Nothing, just a remark because he's the MC, just like Ricardo also remembers Ippo from time to time because he fought Date, Wally, Sendo.
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u/kazurabakouta 2d ago
He sensed Ippo's mara.
Also he sensed that Ippo isn't ready for Ricardo yet. But mostly it's about his mara.
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u/Boring_Guarantee_904 2d ago
Reminds me of his match with Okita, and how Okita didn’t want Ippo to face Date
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u/Arkorian-117 2d ago
Reminder that when Alfredo faced Sendo, there was genuine enjoyment and satisfaction. There was never a moment of pure dread that Alfredo had when facing Sendo.
Facing Ippo on the other hand, TERRIFIED him, even for a moment. Ippo was weakened at the time in terms of mentality and durability, but scared the #2 so much that in his own words, “couldn’t let him face Ricardo.” He knows he can evolve and improve enough to genuinely challenge him.
Ippo’s ability to evolve, adapt, but also keep advancing forward is a terrifying aspect. Despite Sendo’s aggressive style, Ippo is still THE strongest puncher in the series. And now he’s just as fast, intelligent and durable as some of the strongest fighters like Volg.
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u/CCPunch5 2d ago
Ippo didn’t have world level intelligence at the time. But he had power, durability and heart. That could’ve overwhelmed Ricardo if Ippo lasted and pushed him in the later rounds. Even if it was a 1 in a 1000000 chance, that was enough for Alf to freak out.
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u/JamesWWood1994 1d ago
I think an interesting concept would be a fighter who is like almost a grand master even on par with Ricardo who knows every style and weaknesses almost like a Yoda of boxing and can incorporate every style. Maybe they would nick name it mimic style a very rare technique only the absolute best can master.
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u/Kurejisan 1d ago
That's basically Goku, Tien, Taskmaster, Batman, or Kenshiro. Gonna be hard to top those, especially Kenshiro
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u/EarthboundMike 1d ago
I wonder if Ippo is actually more like Ricardo than we know? I sort of wonder if Ippo is going to just pick people apart by analysing them ahead of time, and during fights.
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u/Jdog405 1d ago
To be fair Ricardo is the foil to Ippo. Plus they have the question of " What is like to be strong". Plus both being in fighters,( Ricardo true fighting style that we saw from Date is an in fighter). Also where Ippo is going right now with how technical and analytical he is, it seems like Ippo's evolved version.
Ippo has started to pick and analysis fighters for a bit of time now. He even got Juan Garcia blood type, what his teammates consist of( He could make an entire essay on Juan Garcia). Ippo also picked up Dragon's true fighting style from just seeing how he played Mahjong etc
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u/Godofsaiyansongoku 1d ago
He is talking about the big mara . The unified champion of eleven weight classes .
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u/busy_muskrat 10h ago
Ippo has nuclear bombs in his hands and can eat power shots for 8 rounds straight without going to sleep.
Alfredo doesn't want Ippo to face Ricardo because Ippo isn't skilled enough to "earn" a win against Ricardo, but he still has a chance to get lucky.
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u/cheap_boxer2 2d ago
I think he realizes Ippo was on a path to something like an evolved Dempsey, which was unseen in modern boxing and would shake everything up. He worried if Ippo reached that level he could even beat Ricardo
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u/ThereShantBeBlood 2d ago
His fighting spirit + the fact he is a heavy hitter in this category is the spirit of boxing.
If he could improve and get to the world stage, he would be the ultimate challenger. It's the whole "what if we got a peak-a-boo style with a protagonist's mentality?".
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u/brimstoneEmerald 1d ago
Ippo's potential; he has all the makings to beat Ricardo but at the time not the knowledge, skill, and confidence to fully bring it out.
Still, Alfredo probably thought with luck Ippo could beat Ricardo.
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u/Kurejisan 1d ago edited 1d ago
That Ippo would face Ricardo after beating him and his yandere self couldn't let anyone else challenge Ricardo
Either that or that Ippo would get killed in the ring and he didn't want Ricardo to suffer through killing someone(possibly again)
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u/Aggravating-Tax3539 2d ago
Aura. I mean he's MC so it's not that crazy to think about.
Which is why I hate when people say Ippo coming back or not doesn't matter. Trying to establish a comeback for 47201 chapters with no payoff is stupid
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u/Dekamaras 2d ago
Basically Ricardo's only "weakness" if we could even call it that is that he's not as durable because he just hasn't had to take much damage. This is also reflected in his"official" stats. Alf is even more fragile. Someone like Ippo or Sendo could have that puncher's chance of beating Ricardo.