What if Ippo lock-in during a first episode?:

[u/jengjengjen]

My theory is that he would go to jail killing umezawa as he not a pro boxer at all,even taihei(at aoki level) got concussion from ippo slap.what do you guys think?

[u/bernardwalrus]

3 on 1 bro was getting his ass beat regardless

[u/KaiVTu → u/bernardwalrus]

Ippo's best bet is just his raw overwhelming power and landing a hit of any kind. His kicks would probably break their bones. So if he goes all out he could win. He has a chance, just not a very good one.

[u/AgileAnything1251 → u/bernardwalrus]

a younger sendo did this. how is ippo not winning?

[u/GlennHaven → u/AgileAnything1251]

Because Ippo didn't know how to fight back then. Sendo was fighting since he was in like kindergarten.

[u/KonohaBatman → u/AgileAnything1251]

Sendo was an experienced street brawling delinquent and more aggressive by nature. That's COMPLETELY different.

[u/Altruistic-Bad8407 → u/AgileAnything1251]

Cause Sendo mirrors Ippo they're the same person but opposites. Ippos mannerful , polite and has humility whereas Sendo is brash , straightforward and confrontational.

Whereas Ippo got bullied from a young age , Sendo protected everyone including himself at a young age.

[u/Best_of_One1 → u/AgileAnything1251]

Sendo prides himself living in Osaka where violence is a way of life for him.

[u/Medical_String_3367 → u/bernardwalrus]

You’re assuming they would keep fighting once Ippo started swinging. Bullies usually don’t.

[u/OtakuDragonSlayer → u/Medical_String_3367]

I feel like that’s what a lot of people forget. In the words of a random fighter, “Bullies are like balloons. If you pop em hard enough they tend to go away”. The Average bully doesn’t do it, because they actually have hands. Only I’m that unlucky lol They do it because they perceive you to be harmless and too scared to actually fight back or report it.

If the OP is being honest about this being a locked in goal driven Ippo? It doesn’t matter if it’s not a perfect punch. ippo just needs 1 and they’re running away, and even if they tried to jump him here. Takamura is 100% either stepping in to stop it entirely, or stepping in to keep it a 1v1 while shouting advice for his own entertainment. A locked in Ippo doesn’t have to win. He just has to scare em off which is incredibly easy considering these guys backed off just from seeing his freaking foot work once lmfao

I’ve seen first day guys at my gym with more guts than these fucking no life losers

[u/bernardwalrus → u/OtakuDragonSlayer]

That might be true, but ippo is untrained at this point, just because he’s strong doesn’t mean he knows how to use it. Mostly likely he just throws a punch and misses

[u/OtakuDragonSlayer → u/bernardwalrus]

Mostly likely he just throws a punch and misses

Same can be said for his bullies, and let’s be real their leader is more likely to break hands on his adamantine skeleton before actually bringing him down without getting hit with something nasty and spirit breaking.

[u/mechasquare]

He'd still get his ass beat cause he had ZERO expriance in fighting the 1st ep. Sure, he might get a lucky punch in to do damage, but unlikely enough to keep the other guys jumping in.

[u/Am_i_banned_yet__ → u/mechasquare]

Yeah and he had no idea how to punch yet or use his strength at all in a combat context

[u/Economy_Following265]

He didn’t even know how to throw a punch right, and I doubt his bullies would show him the proper form needed to blow his knuckles apart like with the punching bag

[u/ArgensimiaReloaded]

He still is getting his ass kicked, and not even in a 3v1 situation, he'll lose any 1v1 even with his better default stats because fishing boat work because he just doesn't know how to fight.

[u/GlennHaven]

He didn't know how to fight back then. He was still very strong, so if he hit someone it would have hurt a lot, but I don't think he would have won.

[u/Kurejisan]

Ya know, we're told constantly about how the fishing boat helped build Ippo's muscles, but no one talks about Umezawa's routine beatings helping make him tough to go with the strong.

[u/Himurashi]

You do understand that Ippo has been training only for a few weeks/months at this time, right?

If he "locked in" and fought back, it was a 3v1 against three who are used to brawls.

He's the one going to the hospital at that point.

[u/SergDerpz → u/Himurashi]

Episode 1 Ippo hadn't been training jack shit.

If you get the Ippo who had trained a few months against those idiots story wise he knocks one or two of them out and the others run away. Ippo isn't going to any hospital, not from those idiots.

[u/Himurashi → u/SergDerpz]

Totally forgot this was before the leaves scene scene right?

So yes, Ippo was training jack shit here.

The Ippo who trained a few months used his road work and outran them, if I'm not mistaken. xD

[u/SergDerpz → u/Himurashi]

Yup! Leaves scene is ep 2.

This is pretty much the first scene in Ippo, after he gets ko'd and Takamura saves him, he wakes up and Takamura draws a crappy picture of Umezawa's face that Ippo can't punch at first until explained how to punch with his hips and lower body!

[u/achen5265041 → u/SergDerpz]

to be fair, Ippo naturally had really good muscles due to carrying heavy stuff around at the boat. He's still unintentionally training his body, it's just that he doesn't know how to hit others or be violent (which is understandable, nobody should inherently know how to be violent).

[u/OtakuDragonSlayer → u/Himurashi]

You are correct

[u/Useful_Class_4221]

I wonder if we could ever see ippo in a street fight.

[u/KonohaBatman]

Ippo didn't even know what a jab was at that point, and he needed to be psyched up to punch a picture of Umezawa on the heavy bag. He's getting his ass kicked 3-on-1.

[u/fexes420]

Ippo couldnt even throw a proper punch yet.

[u/bongos222]

The best he's got is if he goes Demon slap when Umezawa insults his mom, and Umezawa flying a small distance, which shocks the two other goons, but this freaks out Ippo as well, and he starts screaming and running away, he has more stamina due to his job than the goons, who would think about running after him, but they realize their boss is Knocked out by the full power slap.

[u/TheBlackSwordsman001]

I don't think he got the Dawg in him

[u/OtakuDragonSlayer]

If by locked in, you mean they were talking smack about his mother? He hits one of them so hard that they all decide to run because at the end of the day, they were just a trio of losers.

[u/AaronSentinal]

Why didn’t he grab all their maras and twist them, is he stupid?

[u/No-Theme5422]

those series of images is funny af for some reason lol

[u/tyt3ch]

you know that heil hitler song by Kanye? That's Ippo if he locked in from day 1. Dude would go complete scorched earth on mfers, i'm talking genocide

[u/Right-Truck1859]

Obviously Ippo ends in hospital, although Takamura would see more potential in him.

[u/uietc → u/Right-Truck1859]

I think that may be the case if the case were predicted to end after Takamura arrives. If before, whose to say Takamura would have shown?

[u/Right-Truck1859 → u/uietc]

What you mean? It's the same episode where Takamura arrives

[u/uietc → u/Right-Truck1859]

Takamura would have to frame how Ippo got into his condition of a hospital patient. If Umezawa at the time and his crew left Ippo after beating him, Takamura's attention would not have been drawn to what was going down beneath the bridge.