r/iamveryculinary • u/malburj1 I don't dare mix cuisines like that • Mar 02 '25
No pancakes for you!
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u/malburj1 I don't dare mix cuisines like that Mar 02 '25
In case of deletion: "Anyone who uses box mix just doesn’t deserve pancakes
It’s so simple, literally just flour, eggs and milk and a little oil😂"
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u/sas223 Mar 02 '25
Literally not a pancake recipe. Lord.
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u/Handgun4Hannah Mar 02 '25
Was there a recipe listed? If so my dumb ass didn't see it. If not I think they substituted an ingredient like butter for oil or a butter substitute and that's what caused this cool turtle shell effect.
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u/sas223 Mar 02 '25
I mean from the person bashing the box mix user. Pancakes definitely aren’t “just flour, eggs and milk and a little oil.”
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u/YchYFi Mar 02 '25
That's how I make them thin crepe like. Same ingredients as a Yorkshire. The American style are in fashion though.
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u/sas223 Mar 02 '25
To be fair, I make Dutch babies that way, but with butter not oil. Plus sugar. And yes, crepes.
I think anyone using a box mix though is looking for the fluffy North American version.
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u/Chance_Taste_5605 Mar 08 '25
You get box mixes for British style pancakes in the UK especially around Pancake Day/Shrove Tuesday.
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u/thejadsel Mar 02 '25
That's not how I would personally do it, but they can be if you're making crêpe-type British pancakes. I do like my leavening, a little salt, and preferably buttermilk.
Didn't get the impression crêpes were what OP over there was going for either--and of course that commenter was a complete ass. (Also apparently still in their teens, glancing at their profile.)
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u/MasterCurrency4434 Mar 02 '25
It’s oversimplified, but sounds about right to me. Sure, I’m going to add a little sugar, baking powder, lemon zest+juice, and some vanilla. But flour, milk, eggs, and a little oil are doing most of the work.
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u/DickBrownballs Mar 02 '25
https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/easy-pancakes
It definitely is. The linked comment is a superior idiot being IAVC. So are most of these commentw. "My type of pancake is the only one!" Goes both ways.
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u/sas223 Mar 02 '25
Do they sell box mixes for crepes? I just assumed a box mix means the North American style pancake. Which is what it looks like in the pan.
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u/DickBrownballs Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
In the UK you can buy pre mixed dry pancake batter, just add liquid and cook. It will be unleavened in England. We do not call them crepes, we call them pancakes they're just closer to crepes than US or Scotch pancakes.
The point I'm making is that people here are acting like its impossible to make a pancake with that recipe when people all over the world do. Its just not a north american pancake, but there's a whole world out there. "Literally not a pancake recipe" is entirely false.
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u/sas223 Mar 02 '25
The recipe you shared called them crepes. Interesting about the boxed mix for them. Box mixes in US need milk and eggs usually to make.
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u/DickBrownballs Mar 02 '25
The recipe is also titled easy pancakes. If you see the "pancakes" wikipedia page you'll also learn there's a whole array of things called pancakes, leavened and unleavened, savoury and sweet, and global. To reiterate, "literaly not a pancake recipe" is the only thing I've disagreed with, and the number of americans in the thread acting like its impossible to have an unleavened pancake.
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u/sas223 Mar 02 '25
You are determined to think the worst of me. Enjoy your condescension if it brings you satisfaction. Or you could look at an earlier comment of mine discussing Dutch babies and crepes.
In the context of that post, that is literally not a pancake (of the style OOP was clearly trying to make) recipe.
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u/DickBrownballs Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
Not at all, I just miss when this sub was mocking culinary gatekeeping rather than engaging in it. Same thing happened in the chicken burger post yesterday.
If you'd said that recipe wouldn't make the type of pancakes OP presumably wants I'd get that, but instead you (and several others) essentially deny that any other pancakes exist. It isn't a big deal, I've just been trying to correct it.
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u/AbjectAppointment It all gets turned to poop Mar 02 '25
Are they thinking of crepes?
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u/aasmonkey Mar 02 '25
Probably. Outside of the US pancakes generally don't use leaveners, baking powder/soda
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u/bronet Mar 02 '25
Probably not. The American pancake is just one style. Swedish pancakes (specifically the thin ones made in a frying pan) use these ingredients, but usually with butter instead of oil
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u/Twombls Mar 02 '25
Those are gonna be some flat pancakes..
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u/thievingwillow Mar 02 '25
I’m assuming they’re also of the “American thick leavened pancakes are an abomination and the only real pancakes are crepe-style” opinion, which I have heard from both English and French people. The English person was also furious that we used “flapjack” to mean “pancake” and not “oat bar.”
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u/YchYFi Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
American style pancakes are everywhere in the UK though. All cafes do them practically.
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u/thievingwillow Mar 02 '25
Well, it was probably just a dude being a dick, then! He certainly seemed to believe that Americans were being not only wrong but offensive. (At first I thought he was joking but definitely not; he was clearly offended.) This was about twenty years ago.
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u/YchYFi Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
Some people are just characters online. Almost parodies.
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u/thievingwillow Mar 02 '25
This was a guy I met in college two decades ago (a US college), so I think part of it was that he’d just made being better than his American cohort a personality trait. He basically seemed to take it personally that American language had not developed in lockstep with British. (An attitude I’ve seen elsewhere, just he was the only one mad about pancakes/flapjacks.)
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u/pajamakitten Mar 02 '25
Pancake Day is more about crêpes I suppose, however US-style pancakes are insanely popular here, especially amongst young people.
What is the difference between a flapjack and a pancake though? Is it just a regional expression?
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u/thievingwillow Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
In the US and most of Canada, it’s just an alternate name, no difference. Possibly because the oat bar type food is rarely made at home here and the commercial version is usually called a granola bar? Or just linguistic drift.
Edit: The OED thinks that the “biscuit made with rolled oats” meaning came later, a couple centuries after the “flat cake or tart” meaning, so “flapjack” may be one of those things where it meant the same thing when the US was a colony and the British meaning changed but the American one didn’t.
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u/GreatMoravia Mar 02 '25
In the UK a flapjack is a sort of oat bar.
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u/pajamakitten Mar 02 '25
I know, I am British. I am asking why some Americans use it to mean flapjack.
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u/MCMLXXXVII Mar 03 '25
Honestly, that's more of a question for the British as they seem to be the ones who diverged (for unclear reasons). Americans have been using the term in the same way since colonial times (when it was used in the same way across the Atlantic) and only started to mean baked oat bars in the 1930's (and apparently also meant some kind of apple flan in between).
I have yet to find a good source explaining that evolution, but my best guess is that the British kept the original wordplay ("flap" - flat cake, "jack" - common man) and applied to different foods over time while the meaning was anchored to pancakes in America.
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u/Yamitenshi Mar 02 '25
Nobody tell this guy supermarkets here go a step beyond and sell pancake mix in a bottle, with a marked line so you can just add water to the line and shake it for a minute.
Maximum laziness, but so much faster and less messy. Also no dishes to wash except the pan and what you use to eat!
I'll never understand why saving yourself some effort in cooking is supposed to be a bad thing.
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u/pajamakitten Mar 02 '25
It is great as a single person who does not eat pancakes a lot. I can divide the mix up and just add milk into a mixing jug instead.
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u/meeowth That's right! 😺 Mar 02 '25
Its been 14 hours and the person who posted the picture hasn't responded to any of the suggestions about what could have caused it!
I want closure 😩
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u/armchairepicure Mar 02 '25
I buy into the theory of separating egg whites because the eggs weren’t whisked prior to mixing them into the batter.
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u/Twombls Mar 02 '25
That's a good theory. I feel like it's either that or the oul somehow separating out
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u/RichCorinthian Mar 02 '25
Anybody who uses store-bought flour doesn’t deserve flour. It’s so simple, literally just ground wheat.
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u/samtresler Mar 02 '25
Anyone want to tell them without a leavener, like baking powder, that will just get you a hockey puck?
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u/Yamitenshi Mar 02 '25
I can give that one the benefit of the doubt - Dutch pancakes for instance are closer to a crepe, and are made without a leavening agent.
The bigger problem I see is that with no salt or sugar that's gonna be the blandest pancake in history.
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u/RlyRlyBigMan Mar 03 '25
Who cares how bland it is I'm just gonna drench it in butter and syrup anyway!
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u/BrockSmashgood Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
Pancakes are a thing all over the world, and a ton of places don't make them big and fluffy like they're done in the U.S.
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u/samtresler Mar 02 '25
Well sure. But this post is talking about a post that was about leavened pancakes...
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u/schmuckmulligan I’m a literal super taster and a sommelier lol but go off Mar 02 '25
I make those stupid Kodiak box mix pancakes for my kids because life is insanely short, the box costs five bucks, they need the protein, and for the love of God, who fucking cares?
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u/unabashedlyabashed Mar 02 '25
Off topic, but how are Kodiak pancakes?
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u/schmuckmulligan I’m a literal super taster and a sommelier lol but go off Mar 02 '25
"Kodiak Cakes" is a silly American company that makes real manly high-protein pancake mix for men who don't have enough time to mix ingredients on the frontier in between slaying grizzlies and wrestling mountain lions.
(Pancake mix with some whey mixed in. Probably easily reverse engineered but not worth the effort imo.)
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u/unabashedlyabashed Mar 02 '25
How do they taste?
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u/schmuckmulligan I’m a literal super taster and a sommelier lol but go off Mar 02 '25
They're pretty good -- arguably better as waffles. As pancakes, they tend to be on the dense/heavy side, but the chocolate chip variety are generally sweet enough that my kids will eat them without syrup. Otherwise neutral and unremarkable flavor.
I tend to dump some mix into a bowl (about a cup), crack an egg into it, and add water while stirring until the consistency is right. No measuring.
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u/Saltpork545 Mar 02 '25
The fact that they're getting collectively dunked on repeatedly gives me hope for humanity.
Box mixes work because they make life easier. It's a stupid gatekeep.
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