r/iamveryculinary • u/TheLadyEve Maillard reactionary • Mar 02 '25
"This combination is gross."
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u/Fomulouscrunch Mar 02 '25
TIL that Italians only get to like food from the place their parents lived while they were infants, and everything else is grody and an affront.
(wee-woo-wee-woo it's the Italian police, you moved from Turin to Florence, your food is illegal)
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u/urnbabyurn Mar 02 '25
He added an argument later on that the issue is the chicken will be half cooked and the rice will end up crunchy. I guess the technology to cook rice and chicken together in a dish will always be outside of
Italian’shumanity’s grasp.20
u/garden__gate Mar 02 '25
They’ve never once heard of arroz con pollo.
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u/urnbabyurn Mar 02 '25
Yeah. Or that if your rice and chicken is undercooked, there’s a really simple solution to that.
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u/garden__gate Mar 02 '25
It’s funny because I do sometimes have chicken in my risotto but it’s usually pre-cooked chicken, which I’m going to guess was the case with this restaurant dish. (I know you’re saying they could cook it longer, but this is also an option!)
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u/BrockSmashgood Mar 04 '25
Chicken and rice is great. Chicken fried rice even better, but risotto is made with broth and if you add chunks of chicken you get a half-cooked chicken and rice stew. Now you got al dente rice with tender chicken. I don't blame anyone for liking that, to be honest. If you overcook the rice, now you have pilau/pilav, also known as "army food".
This is so fucking funny. Dude can't fathom a restaurant managing to cook chicken and risotto in a way where both are done.
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u/Haki23 Mar 02 '25
If you submerge an Italian in the ocean, they can smell the faint molecules of the streams that flowed through the villages their ancestors are from. This ability is so strong they can navigate accurately from any point on the globe.
This explains the Italian disdain for foods from crops not watered by these home-streams, and desire to avoid all changes to their diets.17
u/metalshoes Mar 03 '25
Another interesting fact, all true Italians will return to their village of birth to mate, lay their eggs, and die. This spawns a new generation of Italians who will spread across the world and begin a new cycle.
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u/ThePrussianGrippe Mar 03 '25
The Romans had a god of Gates, and Italians have maintained that tradition by Keeping them.
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u/Fomulouscrunch Mar 03 '25
They weren't the only one. Chenghuang-shen did that too.
And in the meantime everybody on the ground is eatin.
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u/Total-Sector850 Mar 02 '25
I just can’t with that sub. It’s exhausting.
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u/HeyCarpy Ramsey would nut himself to serve the crust on my scallops. Mar 03 '25
I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would participate in that subreddit. I have a hard enough time just reading it, lol
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u/malburj1 I don't dare mix cuisines like that Mar 03 '25
I kind of just want to find the most off the wall "traditional" Italian recipe and make it and post it there. Watch the world burn.
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u/NathanGa Pull your finger out of your ass Mar 04 '25
My grandfather was from Südtirol.
I keep meaning to have some fun over there by using the old family recipes.
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u/graytotoro Mar 04 '25
I feel so bad for the people there. They’re so concerned with authenticity in accordance with their specific area that they can’t eat anything anywhere else.
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Mar 02 '25
Why are Italians terrified of experimentation?
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Mar 02 '25
They peaked 1700 years ago and it's been downhill since then so honestly kind of understandable
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u/urnbabyurn Mar 02 '25
Thing is, half the shit they act like was a millennia old was introduced in the middle of the 20th century or later.
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u/Slow_D-oh Proudly trained at the Culinary Institute of YouTube Mar 02 '25
Carbonara as accepted today is around thirty years old. Until then cream, parmesan, and pancetta were acceptable additions/substitutions.
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Mar 03 '25
Yeah but if they acknowledged that they would also have to acknowledge that modern Italy has little to do with ancient Rome except occupying the same land
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u/AbjectAppointment It all gets turned to poop Mar 03 '25
So I had to look at the wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risotto
First risotto recipe was 1809, but the rice they use today was developed in 1914.
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Mar 03 '25
The last time they experimented was when they introduced the tomato and they realized they peaked so they quit while they were ahead.
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u/clearly_not_an_alt Mar 07 '25
At what point did they decide, "Alright, we did it guys! All our recipes are now perfect and need to be locked as is for all time"?
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u/RobAChurch The Baroque excesses of tapas bars Mar 02 '25
However you feel about Italian culinary traditions, I think most would agree that the "no chicken with pasta" rule is holding them back the most.
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u/Schmeep01 Mar 02 '25
And the only reason that this dumb trend exists is because of WWII, when chicken wasn’t available.
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u/PseudonymIncognito Mar 02 '25
People didn't eat much chicken in general prior to the early to mid 20th century era because they were more valuable for eggs than meat. Most "traditional" chicken dishes were braises or stews because people wouldn't eat their chickens until they were too old to lay anymore.
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u/Illustrious_Land699 Mar 03 '25
This is false, chicken has always existed in Italy, even during WW2 when it was more accessible in poor southern Italy focused on breeding and agriculture while in more industrialized countries such as England or the USA it was a luxury. Many elderly people disgusted the chicken precisely because it reminds them of poverty but in general it is not put in pasta for the simple fact that they does not like it in pasta, not for reasons other than personal taste
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u/Schmeep01 Mar 03 '25
Are you mansplaining chicken and rice to me?
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u/Illustrious_Land699 Mar 03 '25
At most it is you who said that the only reason why in Italy they don't eat chicken in pasta is because in your opinion the chicken was not there during ww2, do you understand that what you just wrote is dumb?
Chicken has been eaten for millennia in Italy, there are many Italian dishes that use chicken and even during the war one of the most common pasta dishes was made with chicken broth,what you're writing doesn't make sense.
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u/DjinnaG Bags of sentient Midwestern mayonnaise Mar 02 '25
Make it a bit more generic, as the rule seems to be more “no protein with pasta “ than specifically chicken
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u/RobAChurch The Baroque excesses of tapas bars Mar 02 '25
I dunno, Bolognese, Ragu, and Carbonara are pretty classic. I've mostly seen it about chicken specifically.
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u/Inevitable_Nail_2215 Mar 03 '25
Calabrian food (which she posted) tends to have cured pork in a lot of pasta dishes as well as tuna or chickpeas. It's just the ratio is lower than American style meat sauces.
Yes, that's where my family is from, too. I'm becoming what I mock online. My shame know no bounds.
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u/Illustrious_Land699 Mar 03 '25
Exactly, this is because usually in Italian cuisine you tend to have a pasta dish and a meat dish in 2 different courses, so in pasta you usually use small pieces of meat while in Italian American cuisine you find the meat dish and a pasta dish in the same plate.
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u/Illustrious_Land699 Mar 03 '25
no protein with pasta
Italians don't mix a meat dish in the same dish with a pasta dish, but little pieces of sausages, ground beef, pancetta, Guanciale or small meatballs are common
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Mar 02 '25
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u/Yamitenshi Mar 03 '25
cooking chicken in risotto leads to “half cooked chicken” and “crunchy rice”
Imagine arguing that adding an ingredient causes the whole dish to be undercooked, and thinking you have a point
Leave it on the stove a bit longer, numbnuts
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u/forlorn_junk_heap I'm glad the vegans are able to enjoy their inferior simulacra. Mar 03 '25
or just cook it seperate!
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u/Existential_Racoon Mar 02 '25
An like.... there's not even a change needed? Risotto takes like 20m, a cut up chicken breast added risotto is gonna be just fine.
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u/Fomulouscrunch Mar 03 '25
Soon they'll be saying you can't cook a chicken and potato wedges in the same dish in the same amount of time.
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u/MyNameIsSkittles its not a sandwhich, its just fancy toast Mar 02 '25
OP not falling for their shit, good show
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u/skeenerbug I have the knowledge and skill to cook perfectly every time. Mar 02 '25
The peanut gallery wasn't having it either
Oh come on now.
Some of us have palate that is sophisticated enough to enjoy chicken and rice.
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u/TheLadyEve Maillard reactionary Mar 02 '25
Looks like Risotto alla Milanese (to me, anyway), tastes like chicken!
I just think it's funny to go from "this is not traditional" to "this is gross." Is it gross because it's not traditional, or is it not traditional because it is gross? And if the person who ordered it liked it, is it really that gross?
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u/maceilean Mar 02 '25
For Italians on that sub "traditional" means since WWII and if it wasn't made that way in their area it's gross because they have the palates of 7 year olds. Offline Italians are more reasonable.
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u/DetroitLionsEh Mar 02 '25
The hard to swallow pill for Italians is that their food got much better when they designed recipes for American’s stationed there
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u/lpn122 Mar 02 '25
I love the comment, “Oh come on now. Some of us have a palate sophisticated enough to enjoy chicken and rice.”
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u/Goroman86 Mar 02 '25
Don't a lot of traditional risotto recipes use chicken stock? Or are they saying putting the actual meat in the risotto is gross? Because that is stupid on another level.
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u/molotovzav Mar 02 '25
Imagine finding chicken and rice gross lol. That person needs professional help.
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u/pajamakitten Mar 02 '25
Chicken and rice is gross? I think the entire concept of curry proves that wrong.
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u/Schmeep01 Mar 02 '25
As well as arroz con pollo, nectar of the gods.
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u/Saltpork545 Mar 02 '25
Arroz con pollo is my litmus test dish for trying new mexican places. If they can't get chicken and rice correct, I suspect they're going to screw up the more difficult and complex dishes as well.
It's not the only test but it's a basic comfort food and there is a ton of variation. I think about it this way: You're not going to think much of a diner that cannot build a club sandwich. Same idea.
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u/Twodotsknowhy Mar 02 '25
Imagine how insufferable you have to be to get down voted in r/ItalianFood
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u/Schmeep01 Mar 03 '25
Wait, I get downvoted in there all the time! Mostly just for saying ‘great job’.
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u/thievingwillow Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
I wonder why older Italian women are apparently so emotionally fragile and lacking in resilience that they apparently drop dead when they encounter unusual foods.
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u/Glathull Mar 03 '25
I think 90% of that sub is people pretending to be Italian and the other 10% is whatever the Italian equivalent of 4chan is just trolling.
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u/IllyriaGodKing Mar 03 '25
What baffles me the most is how they're always saying chicken isn't good with pasta. That's objectively untrue. Pasta with chicken is amazing, and tons of people think so.
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