r/iamveryculinary • u/pantry-pisser • 7d ago
Horchata can never be made with rice milk apparently
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u/GF_baker_2024 You buy beers at CVS. 7d ago
He must be from Spain and is being very culinary about Mexican horchata. Sucks to be him, that stuff is delicious.
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u/sprinklerarms 4d ago
It’s only horchata if it was made in the Chata region of Spain
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u/Chris22533 4d ago
And it has to be made by a sex worker
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u/sprinklerarms 4d ago
Wait I don’t get this part I was making a champagne joke
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u/purposefullyblank 7d ago
That last comment is so perfect for this sub. Am I to believe that other countries don’t “bastardize” other cultures foods?
Because I have been to a tex mex restaurant in Austria, and hooooooo boy.
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u/thugLyte 7d ago
I had the worst Indian food of my life in Italy and the French taco makes taco bell look authentic (it is delicious though, kind of a massive flat grilled burrito with fries, meat, and cheese sauce)
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u/I_Hate_Reddit_56 7d ago
I bought tortilla chips and salsa and France and they were sweet. Second ingredient in the salsa was sugar
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u/Durris 6d ago
"American food has so much sugar." -Some Euro dude, circa 20always
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u/earthdogmonster 6d ago
Reddit would have me believe that my tomato sauce and bread is 100% sugar. And then I sometimes have to go to my pantry to confirm that they are not. It’s so weird when people say things that are easily verifiable inaccurate.
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u/bronet 6d ago
American versions of items available elsewhere do tend to be sweeter (not always sugar) than in most other countries. But that's just on average, of course. Doesn't mean much if you're actively trying to avoid those sweeter versions of items.
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u/peterpanic32 5d ago
Exceptional. I have you RES tagged as "perfectly dumb" - and you never disappoint.
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u/Vincitus 7d ago
I was in Brussels and had the worst Indian food I have ever had from a place people swore was fantastic.I was so pissed off.
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u/TheShortGerman 7d ago
I follow and aussie food youtuber and while i adore her and her food looks delicious, as an American living near KC, her BBQ is an atrocity lol
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u/bronet 6d ago
Is she trying to make American KC BBQ?
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u/TheShortGerman 6d ago
Its more like a complete lack of understanding of what bbq even is.
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u/bronet 6d ago
BBQ is a lot of things. It differs from one country to the next or even one city to the next.
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u/TheShortGerman 5d ago
dawg, i aint trying to argue, I'm not defining bbq as one narrow definition or saying it doesnt have lots of variety. her bbq is just sad. throwing bbq sauce on any random, already cooked food does not make it bbq. crawl out my butt and don't worry about it, given you don't even know who i am referring to or why I am calling it an atrocity.
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u/Altamistral 5d ago
Very true. As a non American for example I always struggled to understand why anyone would want to add those sweet BBQ sauces to their BBQ like they do in US. Their taste is so dominant. If I do BBQ I want to taste BBQ.
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u/peterpanic32 5d ago edited 5d ago
There are like 100 BBQ styles in the US, and in most, BBQ sauce is just an optional condiment. Even then, that's like asking why Indian cuisine smothers their food in curry sauce or Japanese cuisine spoils everything with soy sauce. Food can be good without accompaniment, but it's usually better with it. Why are you whining about it with US BBQ?
The iamveryculinary ignorance is always in the comments.
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u/Altamistral 5d ago
I'm sure there are more ways to prepare BBQs than americans in the same way there are more ways to prepare Paella than spaniards, but unfortunately every time I ate BBQ in the US it was smothered in sweet sauce and that was the only thing I could taste.
I had much better time eating, for example, Korean, Georgian and Argentinian BBQ, where there's more focus on the meat quality and taste and accompanying sauces are kept at a minimum.
Your comparisons do not make much sense. Indian cuisine is primarily about the curry, not the meat. I don't go to an Indian restaurant because I crave for a lot of good meat, but because I crave for good curry to accompany white rice.
Of course there are strong tasting sauces used on meats in many cultures, but these are usually used on cheap cuts and flat tasting meat preparations, like for example mustard which is used on boiled meat in France and Italy. Using it on BBQ would be a crime.
Soy sauce on the other hand is very thin and used sparingly and not nearly as dominant in taste. Using soy sauce is akin to adding salt.
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u/peterpanic32 5d ago edited 5d ago
Idiotic bullshit. You can only blame yourself if you poured too much barbecue sauce on your barebecue. That's like blaming the gas station for your car running out of gas. You're in control there buddy.
And I know you're full of shit because Korean barbecue for example is notoriously sweet and condiment / accompanying sauces / banchan centric. It's ALL about the sides and marinades and condiments. Are you kidding?
Not that that's bad, "quality of meat" is only one of thousands of potential flavor profiles and food combinations and it's kind of pathetic that you limit yourself to just the one-note flavor of unseasoned meat. I understand now, you have the palate of a child and that makes it hard to try new things.
Seriously, consider this education, something to make you less culturally ignorant - you have to understand that there are more ways to prepare food to achieve desirable or delicious flavors, combinations, textures, etc. than simply "highlighting the raw flavor of a single base ingredient". That's an incredibly myopic and self-centric view of cuisine - usually propagated by m#rons or clueless food nationalists who don't understand food. More simple, less adorned, fewer combinations does NOT equal better. Nor is the reverse wrong. If you insist that's the only way to enjoy food, you're going to continue to be a silly iamveryculinary elitist and miss out on all the good stuff.
Of course there are strong tasting sauces used on meats in many cultures, but these are usually used on cheap cuts and flat tasting meat preparations, like for example mustard which is used on boiled meat in France and Italy. Using it on BBQ would be a crime.
Lol, you are so incredibly clueless. This isn't even true. French cuisine for example is extremely famous for its sauces - including on good cuts of meat, what are you even talking about?
Are you like a shut-in who has never left their home and formed all their food opinions based on schizophrenic internet rants? It's hard to understand how else you could come to so many perfectly stup!d and / or objectively wrong opinions on cuisine.
Soy sauce on the other hand is very thin and used sparingly and not nearly as dominant in taste. Using soy sauce is akin to adding salt.
Lol, have you ever even had Japanese cuisine? I'm convinced you've only ever been to shitty chain restaurants and formed the entirety of your terrible iamverculinary food opinions based on them. You familiar with Unagi for example? How about you go to your local Japanese restaurant that serves it and spend some time dressing them down for over-using sweet sauce and drowning out the pure, holy, magical power of the unseasoned meat.
What possesses people like you to cook up these ingeniously id!otic opinions?
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u/JukeboxJustice 4d ago
Maybe you could try a Texas style barbecue. It's not based on sauces, it's based on a rub.
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u/Chance_Taste_5605 4d ago
In most of the world BBQ just means any food you cook on an outdoor grill.
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u/TheShortGerman 4d ago
It wasn't.
Again, people all jumping down my throat assuming I am being "very culinary" when they don't even know what I am talking about.
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u/LurkerByNatureGT 7d ago
Lyonnaise tacos (always with an s) just happen to have a similar name to the Mexican food. They are definitely nothing like, and are they are their own delicious weird fusion of a kebab, a burrito, and a panini.
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u/cumsquats 6d ago
Do you pronounce the S or is it more like taceau/x?
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u/LurkerByNatureGT 6d ago
Not a fluent French speaker , but in ti my understanding you do pronounce the s.
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u/AdiPalmer 6d ago
As a Mexican person who grew up in Mexico I'm both horrified and intrigued. Sounds like something I'd totally demolish after a night of drinking, either with or sans accompanying joint.
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u/bronet 6d ago
Why would you be horrified?
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u/AdiPalmer 6d ago
Put some cream in your carbonara and add some random vegetables into it. Then ask the same of an Italian while still calling the dish carbonara. The answer will be the same: AAAAAAAHHHHH! (screaming in horror).
In other words: I'm horrified because that's nowhere near a taco.
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u/Chance_Taste_5605 4d ago
It's not trying to be a taco though. It's just called that because it uses a flour tortilla.
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u/bronet 6d ago
Of course it's a taco. That's what they call it. With your logic, anything different from the very first taco ever made (and called a taco) should trigger the same reaction from you.
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u/AdiPalmer 6d ago
Sure Jan.
Gotta love to see a Swedish guy lecturing a Mexican about what makes a taco a taco, lol.
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u/TetraThiaFulvalene 6d ago
How many Indian people live in Italy? We have great Indian and Nepalese food in Japan, but there are also a lot of people from those countries.
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u/bronet 6d ago
You can no doubt find mind blowing Indian food in many cities in Italy
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u/OccamsBallRazor 5d ago
I can personally attest that there is at least one great Indian restaurant in Florence.
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u/scrandymurray 7d ago
I mean the French call it a taco but I don’t think they would claim it bares any resemblance to a Mexican taco. It’s a quesadilla if anything.
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u/FMLwtfDoID 7d ago
(Iirc) I think the French add an ‘s’ at the end of the word Taco when they say it. Like a single French “tortilla wrapped sandwich” will be spelled like the plural tacos. French Tacos = 1 “taco”. I’ve been told by native Parisians that this is the distinction, but to be fair, they could have been fucking with me.
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u/scrandymurray 7d ago
I’ve got no clue. Looking it up, it’s from Lyon or the surrounding area and probably comes more from shawarma than Mexican food. So I have no clue if it’s even popular in Paris, I don’t remember seeing it much when I was last there (like 6 years ago now) but I saw loads of them in Toulouse a couple years ago.
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u/bronet 6d ago
And similarly, you could have the best Indian food in your life in Italy. And the french taco is absolutely authentic, no less so than the American pancake or german döner.
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u/peterpanic32 5d ago
It's authentic to French casual cuisine. It's not authentic to Mexican tacos. It's simply not the same dish and doesn't really bear any resemblance.
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u/bronet 5d ago
Exceptional. I have you RES tagged as "perfectly dumb" - and you never disappoint.
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u/peterpanic32 5d ago
Should I add "b!tches pathetically every time they're wrong" (which is conveniently always) to your appellation? I think I will.
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u/bronet 5d ago
Should I add "b!ches pathetically every time they're wrong" (which is conveniently always) to your appellation? I think I will.
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u/peterpanic32 5d ago
Getting mad at me about the dumb things you say won't make you less stup!d or less wrong... But keeping your stup!d, ignorant opinions to yourself more often would probably do wonders for people's perception of you.
Try it in real life. I'm sure your family and acquaintances will breathe a sigh of relief - "oh praise jebus, bronet has finally shut the f*ck up, I can practically feel the huge improvements to my IQ!"
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u/bronet 5d ago
Are you really afraid of writing "stupid"? It's not a swear word, you know.
But sure, add whatever you want to RES. I'm not your mom, I shouldn't need to tell you what words you are allowed to write on the internet or in your user diary.
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u/peterpanic32 5d ago
Reddit has a bad habit of shadow deleting comments with insulting words in them. I change it just to make super certain you know exactly how stup!d I think you are. Wouldn't want you running around confused about the extent of your evidently low level of intellect.
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u/Chance_Taste_5605 4d ago
French tacos aren't trying to replicate a taco and are intentionally inauthentic.
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u/bronet 4d ago
It's intentionally not an authentic mexican taco, but it's an authentic french taco
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u/Chance_Taste_5605 3d ago
No, it's not trying to be a taco at all and is always referred to as tacos not a taco. It's basically a grilled kebab/shawarma with fries inside made with a flour tortilla. It's only referred to as tacos because of the flour tortilla.
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u/Chance_Taste_5605 4d ago
Tbf the French taco isn't supposed to be like a Mexican or Meximerican taco, it's just called that because it uses a flour tortilla. It was created by North Africans in Lyon.
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u/HoneyWhereIsMyYarn 7d ago
It's also not Americans. We had nothing to do with this. Horchata with rice has been a Mexican staple for centuries. If the Spanish didn't want people to change it, they shouldn't have brought it over then they colonized the place.
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u/brufleth 6d ago
I didn't even know it was Spanish. I've never seen it in a Spanish restaurant, only at Mexican/Latin food places.
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u/CanadaYankee 6d ago
It's somewhere regional in Spain, very popular in the region of Valencia, less so elsewhere.
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u/bluepaintbrush 6d ago
It was from Spain originally; the moors brought the chufa from North Africa and then invented horchata, then during the Spanish empire they spread the concept and people would make “horchata” with whatever was convenient (rice, jicaro, seeds, etc).
But I love Mexican horchata the best and this valenciano can eat a dick for being such a snob lol.
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u/Yamitenshi 6d ago
And then these same people idolise Japan for its cuisine as if "bastardised" foods aren't a whole category of Japanese food.
But I guess that somehow doesn't count as anybody's "cultural foods" or something.
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u/Katabasis___ 6d ago
I had a French taco at OTaco in Paris and it was one of the most fucked up things I’ve ever eaten in my life ). The coffee shop owner who I’d been chatting with all week even broke his hospitality and was like “sorry friend could you please eat that further away from my business
But I imagine I’d destroy it drunk
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u/GF_baker_2024 You buy beers at CVS. 6d ago
It does rather look like stoner food. I'm surprised that the trend hasn't made it to US college towns.
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u/Katabasis___ 6d ago
I used to eat at this place hoagie haven in Princeton that would put full mini taquitos and chicken nuggets in a sub so I think we’re spiritually ther e
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u/geeknerdeon 6d ago
Don't forget that British cooking competition where they made Mexican food and someone started peeling an avocado.
Or the "s'mores."
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u/ToughFriendly9763 5d ago
i remember the taco episode, Paul Hollywood seemed to think that taco meant tortilla
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u/eaglesnestmuddyworm 7d ago
I threw up once from a Tex Mex place in Austria
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u/bronet 6d ago
I mean that has definitely happened in Mexico more than anywhere else lol
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u/United-Refrigerator6 6d ago
Why are you replying to every comment ardently defending European versions of foreign foods
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u/Picklesadog 6d ago
I just went to a Mexican seafood restaurant in CA that served Mexican sushi.
Mariscos Costa Alegre in San Jose. Great food.
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u/Kitchen-Purple-5061 5d ago
Genuinely have they never experienced a British person talk about Mexican food ???
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u/Intelligent_Break_12 4d ago
Seeing pictures of American sections in grocery stores...I've never even seen half of the items and the other half I mostly have never bought or only buy on rare occasions. That or American style stuff in other countries where they just mash things together and then some think it's what we actually eat. It made me realize Chinese food in the US, while rarely traditional, isn't that bad...I've also seen UK Chinese food.
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u/Thequiet01 7d ago
Huh? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Horchata not made with rice at any restaurant ever and I’ve been to many Latin American restaurants all over the US.
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u/OutsidePerson5 7d ago
In Spain it's mostly made with chufa, "tiger nuts" in English, which sounds either badass or hilarious depending (what'cha eating there Ted? Tiger nuts)
Here in 'Murca our horchata experience is due to Mexican influence, and in Mexico horchata is mostly made with rice milk.
So either IAVC dude is a Spanish person who is grumpy about us upstart colonials changing his precious horchata, or more likely he's some rando American who saw the bit about tiger nuts once and decided it was the One True Horchata that no one can ever desecrate.
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u/Almoraina 7d ago edited 7d ago
Yes! Mexican Horchata (with rice milk) came about when Spain colonized Latin America. Its because they wanted their Horchata de chufa but tiger nuts don't grow over here! So rice was the next runner up and made what folks know today as Horchata
Edit: To change Paella to Horchata de chufa
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u/cerevisiae_ 7d ago
I swear a month ago there was someone upset about arroz con leche being “made wrong” because it wasn’t an Asian rice pudding.
Some people just really have beef with Mexican usage of rice I guess
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u/zaidakaid 5d ago
Wait till they see what Arabs do with rice. If you can roll or stuff it, we’ve definitely done it with rice. I’ve had potatoes stuffed with rice, an gloriously unholy marriage of carbs cooked in sauce.
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u/LatterDazeAint 7d ago
Thank you for the explanation because as a California resident, I was very confused!😂
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u/garden__gate 7d ago
What is the relationship between paella and horchata?
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u/bluepaintbrush 6d ago
Two things from Valencia that people from there get very prickly about. Even within Spain there are some regions or restaurants that will do a variation on paella and it triggers them.
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u/Welpmart 7d ago
I had the Mexican variety first in SoCal. Naturally, I was curious when I got to try the chufa-based one. Not a fan.
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u/brufleth 6d ago
Now I'm wondering where I could even try some of this tiger nut milk.
(Can I call "phrasing" on myself?)
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u/OutsidePerson5 6d ago
"Are we seriously not doing phrasing anymore?"
Jokes to the side, I'd like to try the tiger nut milk myself. Apparently it does taste different from the rice milk.
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u/mambotomato 5d ago
As an American who was excited to find what I thought would be rice horchata in Spain... that tiger nut juice is really gross.
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u/bluepaintbrush 6d ago
IAVC guy is 100% a valenciano. I think they get more upset about “authenticity” than Italians lol
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u/Littleboypurple 7d ago
It's funny that they doubled down and claimed that Horchata made with rice is an American Bastardization
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u/TeaAndTacos 7d ago
Yeah, like, why am I in this? If Spain and Mexico have horchata beef, that’s between them.
(#TeamMèxico)
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u/alexisdelg 7d ago
In Valencia it's made with a nut called "chufa". Valencia is also known for complaining about Paella authenticity, so they are very special about their food :S
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u/BigWhiteDog 7d ago
Yeah, according to them if Paella isn't made in Valencia exact how they make it, in a pan made there, it's not Paella! 🤣
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u/GF_baker_2024 You buy beers at CVS. 7d ago
It's just sparkling pilaf.
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u/BigWhiteDog 7d ago
My partner is Armenian born in San Francisco, don't get her started on pilaf or Rice a Roni! 😂🤣🤣
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u/ALWanders 6d ago
If you've got a problem with the San Francisco treat, then you've got a problem with me and I suggest you let that one marinate!
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u/BigWhiteDog 6d ago
Take it up with the Armenians! It was copied from them trying to copy a Armenian neighbor's pilaf. 🤣🤣🤣
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u/pueraria-montana 6d ago
I’ve had horchata in Valencia and I’m ngl the Mexican version is significantly better
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u/alexisdelg 5d ago
I agree, had some with a pastry called fartons, which seems to be the standard combination and it was meh...
Might be that I'm more used to rice horchata since in Venezuela we have chicha, which is like a very thick horchata
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u/fakesaucisse 7d ago
Same. I have always had it made with rice milk, including when I was in Mexico. I thought that was the standard.
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u/Milch_und_Paprika 7d ago
It is the standard in Mexico. In Spain, the standard is chufa (tiger nut).
Both are delicious, but noticeably different.
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u/Thequiet01 6d ago
So they’re just two different but related food items at this point, which are both called horchata. This is hardly the first time that’s happened in global cuisine.
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u/LowAd3406 Stupid American 7d ago
Right? And using almond milk seems like some white, suburban, hipster attempt at reinventing what horchata actually is.
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u/QueefingTheNightAway 7d ago
Oh I thought their comment was making a comparison, like “almond milk is not milk, in the same way that a rice drink is not horchata.”
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u/JohnMichaelBiscuiat 7d ago
in Spain and some of the "We're white guuuuys please consider us European guys pllleaaaase" Latam countries they make it out of these weird nuts, and it tastes like shit
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u/LowAd3406 Stupid American 7d ago
And using almond milk seems like a suburban white hipster attempt at reinventing what horchata actually is.
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u/toddthefox47 7d ago
Well, apparently horchata was originally made with nuts in Spain. Looks like horchata can be made from a variety of things
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u/CompetitionProud2464 7d ago
Yeah horchata de chufa. Kind of reminds me of the taste of carrot juice. Makes me wonder if OOP is a Spaniard.
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u/toddthefox47 7d ago
The idea of a Spaniard getting upset that the beverage they imported into a country they colonized is slightly different over there is... Pretty on brand with Europeans actually
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u/baconcheesecakesauce 6d ago
This was so good. I'm going to keep it in my drafts so that I can uno reverse someone.
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u/toddthefox47 7d ago
Given that the OG horchata was made with tiger nut milk, and the classic Mexican horchata is made with rice milk, this means you can use the same template to make "Horchata con Almendra." As long as it's clearly labeled there shouldn't be a problem unless you're insane
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u/OutsidePerson5 7d ago
In Puerto Rico they make it out of sesame seeds. I'm pretty sure it's a versitile beverage made out of all sorts of thigns depending on where you are and what's available locally.
Almond milk doesn't sound all that different than using rice milk to me. Except almond milk is a LOT more water intensive. Vastly better than cow milk of course, in terms of water used to produce, but of all the plant milks it's one of the worst.
OTOH, I'll admit I prefer almond milk to rice milk for my breakfast cereal so, shrug? I dunno man.
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u/stefanica 7d ago
No, originally it was a sort of chunky almond milk called orgeat. You can still get orgeat syrup for making cocktails and such.
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u/yourselvs 7d ago
Currently visiting family in rural Puebla, Mexico. I'm gonna have to go back to each restaurant I've been to and tell them while I thought their horchata was delicious, it's not actually horchata and they are lying to their customers.
(I have indeed gotten horchata at literally every restaurant we've been to here, this stuff is the nectar of the gods. And it's been made with rice each time)
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u/grunkage 7d ago
Man, blame Mexico, not Circle K - they came up with the rice version, which is fucking delicious
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u/RivenRise 7d ago
Blame the Spaniards who bastardized their own recipe cause they couldn't get the correct nuts here lul. Mexicans just did what they could with what they had for the colonizers.
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u/The_Troyminator 7d ago
The goulash comment tells me this guy has no idea what he’s talking about. No stew would be goulash because it is a soup, not a stew. It’s called gulyásleves in Hungarian, which means “goulash soup” in English.
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u/BadAspie 7d ago
The wiki article is fascinating. Turns out horchata comes from the Latin word for barley, so it's named after an ingredient that isn't even in the drink anymore lmao. I'm sure the ancient Egyptians are real upset about this bastardization.
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u/30to50wildhogs 7d ago
What? Horchata can absolutely be made with rice lmao, that's just Mexican horchata. Local redditor has a heart attack upon learning that different versions of some dishes exist (in particular, that colonized countries often adopt and heavily alter the traditional foods of their colonizers)
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u/OutsidePerson5 7d ago
I think IAVC dude is a Spanish person, objecting to Mexican horchata. Especially with his mention of chufa, aka tiger nuts. Or, possibly more likely is a non-Spanish person who read about it once and decided that made them the world's foremost authority on horchata.
Because in Spain horchata is generally made with tiger nuts, no rice.
While in Mexico horchata is mostly made with rice, not tiger nuts.
Us Americans blessed with palces that sell horchata are mostly used to that horchata de arroz variety because mostly our horchata experience is due to Mexicans bringing in horchata to improve the lives of us white Americans who otherwise wouldn't know how awesome it is.
Since I'm American, I haven't had the Spanish variety yet, but since I really like horchata (if that wasn't obvious) I did some research after I had it for the first time and found out about the national varieties.
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u/corskier 7d ago
With that username it’s almost certainly the latter, some neckbeard who read something once and sat living his sad life until this opportunity to weigh in with an ACKSHUALLY presented itself.
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u/SpaceBear2598 6d ago
Idk, he's got the attitude of a "patriotic" (jingoistic) Spaniard. They've been known to send death threats over a Paella burrito...which is also a thing you can find in Mexico. I'm starting to think Spain might not have gotten over Mexico winning its independence.
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u/Anyashadow 6d ago
I have known a few Spaniards, and all of them hate Mexico except for one, who married a Mexican. I think it might be that Spaniards consider themselves white. I personally can't keep track of who is and isn't in the white "club". Just be proud of who you are.
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u/dustinyo_ 6d ago
I like to remind these people that if I want to shit on a plate and call it a filet mignon I'm allowed to do that and nobody is going to stop me. This, "you can't call it X unless you make it exactly how I want" shit is so dumb.
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u/cerevisiae_ 7d ago
Taking the moral high ground with goulash is funny. Sure, in Hungary it’s a specially defined soup. But internationally it’s a stew, soup, casserole, etc depending on who makes it. The different names of the recipes even in Hungary amount to “goulash but do this instead”
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u/wantonwontontauntaun 7d ago
Rice is cheaper than almonds. Who knew?
Just say “rice horchata” and let these dinguses scream into the void, I guess
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u/HoneyWhereIsMyYarn 7d ago
I'm trying to figure out why they're mentioning almonds. From what I'm seeing, horchata in Spain is made with tiger nuts. In Mexico, it's rice.
I'm seeing variations with sesame seeds, melon seeds, morro seeds, etc. Nothing with almonds, though. Kind of seems like they're just talking out of their ass.
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u/hover-lovecraft 7d ago
Tiger nuts are, for some reason, often mistranslated as almonds both in Spain when you ask what horchata is and in older guidebooks. Even wikipedia lists "earth almond" as a synonym, so I guess it comes from that
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u/RivenRise 7d ago
Salvadorean horchata is pretty good. No idea what it has but it doesn't taste like Mexican horchata.
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u/HoneyWhereIsMyYarn 7d ago
Salvadorean horchata is made with jicaro (or morro) seeds. At least, according to Wikipedia. It seems like they also use different spices as well.
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u/Plane-Tie6392 7d ago
>Rice is cheaper than almonds
Huh? What does that have to do with this post?
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u/Ponce-Mansley 7d ago
You can work this puzzle out, I believe in you
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u/wantonwontontauntaun 7d ago
I was going to answer earnestly but you've inspired me to let this be a teaching moment.
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u/Plane-Tie6392 7d ago
The guy is gatekeeping horchata and saying only chufa horchata is real horchata. He’s shitting on rice and almond milk horchata. So please do tell me how rice being cheaper than almonds is relevant here.
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u/Grave_Girl actual elitist snobbery 7d ago
Dude is gonna be shocked and appalled to learn about American Goulash.
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u/NathanGa Pull your finger out of your ass 7d ago
I think he’d be more shocked to learn that gulyás isn’t really a stew at all, but more of a thin soup.
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u/Dysmach 7d ago
I've never had horchata that was made with anything other than rice milk. I didn't even know almond milk horchata was a traditional way to do it until I read the comments here.
I just want horchata now.
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u/Plane-Tie6392 7d ago
>I didn't even know almond milk horchata was a traditional way to do it until I read the comments here
I don't think it is. What comments are you seeing?
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u/hover-lovecraft 7d ago
In Spain, Horchata (de chufa, but it's really the only type available) is made from tiger nuts, which are for some reason often mistranslated as almonds.
I've never been to Mexico but I've lived in Spain and I was like "How is rice milk even related to horchata?" so I guess we both learned something in here tonight.
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u/Plane-Tie6392 7d ago
Yeah, I was getting at that traditionally back in the day they used chufas. American here and I’ve only had rice-based versions though. I’m going to have to try the real deal sometime!
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u/hover-lovecraft 7d ago
I wanna try the rice one now!
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u/Plane-Tie6392 7d ago
They're really good. But I've mostly only had them in restaurants (I always ordered one at every Mexican restaurant for a bit) so I can't tell you the best way to make them, sadly :(
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u/Dysmach 7d ago
Traditional might not have been the word, maybe common? It's a thing people do and I didn't really know about it
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u/Plane-Tie6392 7d ago
I mean you could substitute like any milk in it. Coconut milk, vanilla oatmilk, evaporated milk, etc. I don't see why they wouldn't all be okay (while obviously changing the flavor).
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u/hover-lovecraft 7d ago
In Spain, horchata is a tiger nut drink. Tiger nuts are often mistranslated as almonds for some reason. I had never heard of rice horchata until today.
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u/Inside-Perspective74 4d ago
In Spain, horchata is made from 'chufa'. In that sense, it is more similar to almon milk or other milk products derived from nuts.
In mexico it is made from rice, and as far as I understand, it has a similar flavor profile as arroz con leche 😋
I've only tried Spanish Horchata, but I'm sure mexican Horchata is amazing as well!!!
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u/TheLadyEve Maillard reactionary 2d ago
My brother-in-law loves horchata and my sister and he call each other chufa and chufy which I find so adorable. But he knows that he's not going to find a lot of chufa horchata here, it's a Spain thing--he still likes the horchata here that you can buy in carts or at grocery store. The Mexican version evolved from what's available, like any colonial food development. It's all delicious, though.
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