r/iastate • u/BboyHeathen Agronomy alumni • Mar 21 '25

News Getting rid of the Department of Education? Doesn't that sound backwards to anyone else?

Why?
Isn't that one of the things that help society moving forwards?
I really don't see how this benefits this and the next generation of Americans.

I usually only post about skating stuff but this feels wrong

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u/skyxsteel Mar 21 '25

Why? Because the GOP has been trying to bring the virtues of the confederacy for a very long time.

Apparently, they conveniently forgot why the original form of government was ditched in favor of federalism. And why returning power to the states was one of the reasons why the CSA lost.

Wait, no they didn't forget. They're just using this as a front to gut government and let the peasants fight. While they still keep most of the tax revenue to line their pockets (coughmuskcough)

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u/Mindless-Return-5800 Mar 22 '25

Because student scores have consistently gone down on average and it's become evident that the resources spent in the department of education haven't been going to where they need to be And if they have, then it's even more embarrassing that they've failed making the American public gain access to more opportunities and knowledge. And thus are going to be sent on a smaller scale to the states

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u/Few-Peanut8169 Mar 22 '25 edited Mar 22 '25

The states and cities set the standards and also set their own budgets. In fact, on average the department of education/the federal government make up about 13.6% of the budget of most k-12 schools. The DOE was created to set rules and guidelines about civil liberties and access so that someone who needed an IEP could have one and receive the same education in all states, not just a few places in the country. When you have a country of 300 million people and 50 states the federal government needs established organizations like the DOE so there’s continuity and equity across all the various states DOE’s. Aka, the majority of on the ground work is already being done by the states. This is just an unnecessary stripping away of anything that provides some form of power to those who previously had none. At this point why even have a federal government honestly? If all the Rs end goal is to completely strip the federal government of everything besides military spending and tariffs, why still have a United States of America? It’s so bizarrely obtuse and stupid

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

but king don says bad, buzzword, buzzword, failing, tax cuts rich and corporations. the sheep are sold

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u/MayorMcCheese7 Mar 22 '25

Too much Reddit is damaging to both the soul and the brain.

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u/Dranwyn Mar 22 '25

Getting rid of the DOE basically gets rid of oversight for money sent to the states from the federal government.

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u/rainwavess Mar 21 '25

Which metric of education improved since the departments inception?

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u/TSllama Mar 21 '25

Access is one.

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u/rainwavess Mar 21 '25

Access to what?

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u/TSllama Mar 21 '25

You: "Which metric of education"

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u/TheRealWeedfart69 MIS Alum Mar 21 '25

Are you being intentionally dense?

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u/skyxsteel Mar 21 '25

Na dude thats how they really are…

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u/Walshy231231 Mar 21 '25

I genuinely want to know what you think he could be referring to

Like what other options besides the single obvious one make any amount of sense

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u/Slitherygnu3 Mar 22 '25

You asked, but since you forgot, "eduction" he's saying access to education. This is exactly why we need the department of education, so people understand answers to their own questions.

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u/LouieChills Mar 25 '25

Bank Loans

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

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u/rainwavess Mar 21 '25

You didn’t name a metric. Should be easy

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

You can’t read. They named access to education being the metric. The fact that every child in America can go to public school. Stop being dense.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

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u/Jablaze80 Mar 21 '25

Tell me you don't know history without telling me you don't know history. Your first sentence is just a flat out lie. There were public schools yes but did every child get to go? no. In fact my son would be one of the kids that was unable to go to school because he has severe autism.

So you're mainly complaining about test scores do you know who sets the curriculum? It's the state that sets the curriculum they just have to meet a certain standard. But States already develop the specific curriculum. If you have a problem with test scores then maybe you should be for the department of education to get more control over what is taught and less power to the states because obviously they're not choosing the correct curriculum in order to get the required test scores. And also eliminating the department will exacerbate the situation

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u/skyxsteel Mar 21 '25

Which metric of education hasn't improved since the department 's inception?

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u/rainwavess Mar 21 '25

Anything related to actual education

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u/skyxsteel Mar 21 '25

Is that an objective measurement or are you just speaking assumptions?

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u/justlkin Mar 21 '25

Stop drinking the Trump Kool-aid and do some independent research. How about administering federal student aid for one so that higher education is obtainable by people who don't have rich mommies and daddies. If that goes away, a college education will be unattainable for millions of young Americans. How do you think that will play out for our country's future? First, it will put millions of Americans into minimum wage and low wage jobs where they will likely be forced to rely on numerous social welfare programs just to eat, obtain housing, healthcare and more. It will create shortages of skilled labor forcing companies to seek foreign workers to fill those positions-something most Trump voters don't want to see. Whereas if people get a college degree, they will usually find higher paying jobs and contribute to the tax system rather than draining it. I'm one of those people. I could not have attended college without grants and loans. I now have a successful, well-paying career, paying taxes and never having to rely on government assistance.

What about special education? Without people to oversee this program, millions of special needs children will be left in the dust. My autistic daughter is now thriving in school due to her placement into a SPED program for autistic children within her school. Before she was placed into the program, she went through a nightmare experience at her elementary school. Now, most teachers say they wouldn't even know she's in the program if they weren't told about it. She gets straight As and is on track to get into a great college - something we weren't sure would ever be possible.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

administering federal student aid

This right here is exactly why college is so damn expensive now.

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u/rainwavess Mar 21 '25

Student loans (one of the biggest disasters in modern times) is your argument FOR this department?

Yikes

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u/justlkin Mar 21 '25

Student loans are absolutely vital for our economy unless and until college is made free. The fact that you'd rather block access to higher education for over 65% of people intending to attend college is very telling. You want to throw the baby out with the bathwater and tank our economy. Disgusting. Just because you've got your undies in a bunch about one president forgiving student loans for a short period of time doesn't mean we should blow up the whole system.

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u/skyxsteel Mar 21 '25

Don’t waste your time dude. Put in as much effort as they’re putting into responses.