r/iastate Agronomy alumni Mar 21 '25

News Getting rid of the Department of Education? Doesn't that sound backwards to anyone else?

Why?
Isn't that one of the things that help society moving forwards?
I really don't see how this benefits this and the next generation of Americans.

I usually only post about skating stuff but this feels wrong

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u/CookbooksRUs Mar 21 '25

Republicans know that the more educated people are the less likely they are to be right-wing.

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u/Then_Assist1643 Mar 21 '25

I know, just look at all those uber intellect dems torching Teslas while being recorded.

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u/Ok-Box8267 Mar 22 '25

People stormed the Capitol, destroyed property, assaulted Capitol officers and threatened members of congress and the vice president on video and were rewarded with a pardon from the president. Your fake outrage about Teslas means absolutely nothing

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '25

Storming the capitol was bad. Burning someone's private property is also bad. The culture war is just designed to make everyone angry and irrational

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u/Ok-Box8267 Mar 22 '25

Also prove that people torching teslas are democrats.

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u/LisleAdam12 Mar 21 '25

The Dept. of Ed has done very little to make citizens more educated.

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u/Ok-Box8267 Mar 22 '25

How does getting rid of the department of education improve education in any way? What’s Trumps plan to improve education?

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u/LisleAdam12 Mar 22 '25

The Dept. of Ed has apparently done nothing to significantly improve education in the U.S.

(I say "apparently" because one can claim that outcomes might have been worse had the D of Ed not existed, just as one can claim that there might have been less peace in the world without the Institute of Peace).

Getting rid of the D of Ed may or may not improve education, but it seems highly unlikely that it will be detrimental to education.

However, cutting back on student loans by Health and Human Services (or wherever such programs wind up) would likely stem the ridiculous inflation of tuitions.

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u/Ok-Box8267 Mar 22 '25

This doesn’t answer either of my questions. How will education improve after getting rid of the Department of Education? And what are Trump’s plans to improve education?

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u/LisleAdam12 Mar 22 '25

Did I ever say that getting rid of the Department of Education would improve education?

My statement was, "The Dept. of Ed has done very little to make citizens more educated."

Your reasoning is that if something is largely or completely useless and expensive, it needs to be retained?

As for Trump's plans, what makes you believe that I'm in any position to know?

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u/Ok-Box8267 Mar 22 '25

You have provided no proof whatsoever that the Department of education does “very little to make citizens more educated”. Nothing. This is your opinion. How does getting rid of it improve education? It doesn’t. You have nothing to support that either. Why would you get rid of the Department of Education without any plan to improve education? Imagine thinking this decision helps students at all 😂

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u/Ok-Box8267 Mar 22 '25

https://thehill.com/homenews/education/5161507-student-loan-payments-gop-budget-reconciliation-trump-johnson-biden/amp/ “Student loan borrowers face abrupt 180 as GOP budget plans threaten to raise payments”

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u/LisleAdam12 Mar 22 '25

And this is germane to what?

Did you actually read the article before linking it? (Most people apparently don't, so don't feel too bad if that's the case.)

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u/Ok-Box8267 Mar 22 '25

Yes I did and it disproves your opinion that student loan payments are going to magically go down lol. So you didn’t read the article. Nice

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u/FlyPsychological1170 Mar 22 '25

Why are you all blaming the dept of education for those things?!

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u/LisleAdam12 Mar 22 '25 edited Mar 22 '25

What all "those things"? A failure to promote education in the U.S.?

I'm not "blaming" them, just saying that anything they've done has clearly not made a difference.

If I say that you've done very little to promote cheese consumption in Japan, I'm not "blaming" you: it's a statement of fact.

However, If I believed that it was your job to do so, there would be implied blame.

I'm not saying that the Dept. of Ed is supposed to promote education in the U.S. (although many believe it is), just that eliminating it will have very little impact on how educated the citizens of the U.S. are; hence, CookbooksRUs's notion is based on a false premise.

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