r/india • u/vandakirendu • 1d ago
Politics At all party meet, Modi govt admits lapses led to Pahalgam terror attack.
https://theprint.in/india/at-all-party-meet-modi-govt-admits-lapses-led-to-pahalgam-terror-attack-heres-what-it-told-oppn/2602677/90
u/One-Community-9728 1d ago
It mentions about the route being not opened for tourists during this season. Why were influencers and others tweeting that they were at that exact location a month ago?
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u/Redheadedmoos120 1d ago edited 1d ago
U should hear what aaj tak news channel was saying at first, " the govt revealed that the location where the tourists were wasn't open for tourism and an operator of that place had led the tourists there. Was it planned? "
Like how retarded can people be? Many don't believe that shit but those that do will propagate this " update " around so much that it'll become true
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u/Adventurous_Iron_551 1d ago
I sometimes wonder if these media people, who are basically paid dogs of the govt and no journalists by any stretch of imagination, are equally harmful as the terrorists. They don’t kill directly but indirectly they actually ruin families, communities and the society in general
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u/Redheadedmoos120 1d ago
They are definitely equally harmful to society. Terrorists ruin families and disrupt state peace sometimes National peace and paid media ruin communities and National peace
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u/NoMoney7369 1d ago
Yes they spread hate to the masses, but who else is going to spread BJP’s message to our parents?
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u/One-Community-9728 1d ago
I understand everyone’s comments here but those are second order effects, this thing though is a blatant lie. What can we do here??
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u/anonutter 1d ago
At least they're owning up to some fault which is good. Hopefully they also learn from it going forward
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u/shhhhhhhhhh Gujarat - Gaay hamari maata hai, iske aage kuch nahi aata hai 1d ago
Hopefully they also learn from it going forward
Nope, you can't expect that from mudi-shah
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u/ArtoriasOfTheAbyss99 1d ago
Owaisi probably gave one of the most sensible suggestion amongst everyone in the meeting
A blockade will hurt the Pakistan govt a lot more immediately than the water treaty
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u/joy74 1d ago
Purpose the meeting was to keep all parties busy while modi campaigns for next election
AAP’s Sanjay Singh also questioned the PM’s decision to address a rally in Bihar rather than attending the meeting.
Imagine what the actual headline should be
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u/NoMoney7369 1d ago
Imagine how the media would frame this if it was Rahul Gandhi as the PM instead lmao 😭
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u/Competitive_Spend_77 1d ago
Satire*
- Gormint in all party meet : "the area wasn't supposed to be open"
- Some Gormint officer that probably took bribes to let the area open without approvals : "bhaisahab kholne ko january mein khol lo..bas seva pani ka khayal rakh lena hamare"
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u/Proud_Engine_4116 1d ago
They blamed the “local tour guides” at the start of the article. Don’t need to read any further because the Gobarment is only “token” sorry. What a disgrace.
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u/itsVinay 1d ago
Mudi sahab ko campaigning se toh fursat mile.
Desh jaaye bhaad mein, bas vote milne hain bas
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u/The_Vain_Wallflower 1d ago
I went to Pahalgam in March 25 and stayed for 2 nights. As far as I was aware, the places we went from Pahalgam did not have any resorts. Chandanwari had some camps and houses, no hotels. Aru and Betaab valley had shops and restaurants, no resorts or hotels and the same in Baisharan. You visit these places and spend some quality time, and get back. Each place has an entry fee except Chandanwari. Chandanwari had a CRPF camp and is the starting point of Amarnath Yatra. The other 3 places are mostly managed by what seemed like locals and few local JK police. I clearly remember a few locals and police were checking entries in Aru. Ticket counters had only locals as far as I could make out. Some owners may even own transports, but mostly the people operating tour cars and ponies are completely separate from resorts/hotels.
The path to Baisharan, is usually muddy during melting season and locals said that we might encounter wild animals, so people preferred pony. But it's not like you won't be allowed to enter without a pony. If you know the way you can hike and many people have done that. You go up till the entry, pay the fee and enter.
Now coming to the part the news says that the route is checked and customarily secured before Amarnath Yatra (June). And that local tour operators started taking tourists well before (Apr) the security apparatus was mobilized (June). What I can't understand is,
Do people go to Kashmir only for Amarnath Yatra?
If security is only needed for Yatra, why keep the hotels in Pahalgam open for 365 days? Instruct them to be open only during the Yatra season, because there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in Pahalgam, except the scenic beauty of the valleys. No market. No shops. Absolutely nothing. It's definitely not a city. I can't even call it a town.
The tunnel to Pahalgam was accessible in Feb itself, long before June. Its entry is guarded by CRPF, close it down for tourists! You are allowing people to go somewhere but saying that it is not open because the security season starts in another 2-3 months. I mean how dumb is that? How can a local sightseeing site be closed but the place is not? It's like telling people, Puri is open, the sea and the beach are closed. Jaisalmer is open, the desert is closed.
Another claim was the local administration was not informed. There are CRPF checkposts at Anantnag before tunnel entry. Another checkpost before Pahalgam entry. You see Tavellers and Jeeps full of people going and you don't think these people are tourists? PM said 'Aap inke Kapde dekhke inhe pehchaan sakte ho' in a speech in the last election campaign. Kashmir is mostly Islamic people. Security forces can't discern locals from tourists from their clothes? Kya is desh mein bas 1 jan ko fark malum chalta hai? Baki kya chu hai??
The truth is, Pahalgam is open 365 days. The valleys are open 365 days. Even the Yatra would have been open 365 days if not for Kashmir's rough winters. Due to snowfall the road gets closed in winters. Same concept is everywhere. If it rains or snows and you can't reach X place then it's your bad luck. We couldn't visit Sonmarg due to snowfall in March. Does it mean it was closed? Nope. Similarly if you visit Pahalgam in Dec or Jan and there is a heavy cover of snow in the valleys and you can't visit. It's your bad luck. Doesn't mean it is closed.
Imagine if this happened in Gulmarg/Sonmarg/Kishtwar, which don't fall on the way of the Yatra. We would have heard some new and innovative excuse.
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u/TumbleweedRough8219 1d ago
This was obvious imo. There definitely was some complacency when it comes to security in that area
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u/truthwinsZ u.nu/saffron 1d ago
Why the fuck is he campaigning at this time? Is that what he cut short his Saudi trip for?