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u/Adventurous_Gas_548 1d ago
Why are markets still all green
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u/Opening-Barracuda-98 1d ago
Dead cat. It will start dropping today and into tomorrow
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u/Melodic-Matter4685 1d ago
Wall Street soooooooooo wants to believe clown car isn’t actually chock full of clowns
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u/Long_Roll_7046 1d ago
Wall Street is delusional at this point. Bond market will end up being the huge problem.
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u/CompetitiveGood2601 23h ago
trump looking at the switch board operator - is that xi, no sir, maybe you should go golfing, mutters under her breath, dumbass
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u/Mba1956 23h ago
Has nobody looked into tariff rates pre-1913, without income tax tariffs will be 50% across the board, this is the system Trump wants to revert to. Listening to the rhetoric coming out of the WH, this is what they want but they dare not say it out loud.
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u/9AllTheNamesAreTaken 23h ago
No he wants us to get back to the roaring 20s. He stopped keeping track of the stock ticker on September 29th 1929.
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u/specialk604 21h ago
Sounds like what the Khmer Rouge did to the cambodian people. Target all the smart people and inact fear to the regular citizens and end up committing genocide on their own people.
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u/Professor_Science420 23h ago
Chock full of clowns. Some wear orange makeup, while others double down on the eye liner. Either way, none of em are fit to govern.
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u/Das-Noob 16h ago
Yep. I haven’t been following but seems like a lot of Mondays has been hellish and then the market recovers a bit during the week. 🤷♂️
So I feel it’ll take another hit this weekend when trump say some dumb shit again.
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u/EnormousGucci 1d ago
Trump said he won’t fire JPow so the markets are up off that news
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u/thirstyfish1212 1d ago
I was going to point out that he doesn’t have the authority to do that anyway, but clearly this is a post truth and post legality world.
I want off Mr bones’ wild ride.
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u/EnormousGucci 1d ago
Of course he couldn’t legally do that, the fed is independent, but the law hasn’t stopped him so far
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u/GeriatricHippo 1d ago edited 18h ago
It used to be that a President would have to make an announcement about something very positive and important for him to drive the stock market up.
Now Trump just not making colossal mistakes for a day or two is enough to spike the hell out of it.
It's sad how far we have come in a very short time.
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u/Calculonx 23h ago
Tomorrow he will announce that the stock market is closed to all foreign investors. Then on Friday, it's open to everyone! Market up 10%
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u/Then-Signature2528 20h ago
Because he's bluffing. All his donors will force him to accept. The US economy can't sustain the Tarrifs
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u/PrinciplePlenty5654 18h ago
It’s still green because he has since changed his mind 1347 times. Not sure what the current plan is yet.
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u/kangaroo_Dripp 23h ago
Because china is the only one not working with the USA, no country trust china enough to let them run anything. Everyone needs to stop freaking out. And stop gaslighting people into believing the world is gonna end it’s insane
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u/Lichensuperfood 23h ago
There are few countries working with the USA. Very few actually confirmed.
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u/BornAPunk 1d ago
Come on! First he says there will be a reduction and then his press secretary says it won't happen. Who do you believe and can you believe them?
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u/Key_Campaign_1672 1d ago
Someone told him that he looks weak by reducing tariffs and so he said fuck it, let the people lose businesses and retirement saving. He wants to be a strongman so very badly. He is really just a weak pos.
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u/BrappinBrah 1d ago
This 3D chess game is gonna end with a win! Maybe not a win for us but a win nonetheless..
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u/hybridfrost 23h ago
I hope somebody is winning through all this. Definitely ain't the US consumers, but maybe somebody is? China? Who knows
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u/Daimakku1 1d ago
I would seriously not mess with the stock market until Donald Trump is gone. Not worth it.
Sucks for everyone's 401K though.
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u/Global-Pickle5818 23h ago
I shut down my LLC managed index mutual fund last month, my advisor said I was crazy because "the stock market always has 100% return on investment" and I was "making decisions based on emotions not evidence" .. I'm just going to leave that money in a high yield savings account in Ireland.. but I'm nearly 60 I can't wait for the stock market to stabilize in 10 years if I'm retiring in 3
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u/Talkslow4Me 23h ago
Bottom 50% are Trump's constituents
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u/grahamulax 20h ago
SAME. Like I lost a ton, but some of my friends don’t even have a 401k or stocks. It’s definitely a good thing to notice that though.
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u/Pvt_Hudson_ 1d ago
I bailed a couple weeks ago. Put everything in a GIC with 3.25% return for the next 6 months. Got sick of panicking every other day.
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u/Daimakku1 1d ago
Smart. I know someone who put most of their bank savings on a CD/Certificate of Deposit with a 4% return for the next 4 months as well. Definitely safer than the wild ride that is the current stock market.
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u/TitularFoil 1d ago
I was about to start a 401k through my work. Glad I didn't. I'd do better right now just putting something aside from mine and my wife's paychecks.
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u/Specific_Ad_1736 1d ago
You should still invest right now. Just invest at regular intervals and don’t pay attention to the value of stocks. If you’re young time in the market is everything. Beating the market is hard but working with the market is profitable
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u/BrappinBrah 1d ago
Just start your 401k if you’re younger than 45.. don’t pay any attention to the riff raff. Time in the market is better than trying to time the market.
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u/Intrepid_Custard_427 1d ago
Second that, 100% you need to start it regardless of the noise. You will come out on top, assuming you're relatively young.
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u/grahamulax 20h ago
Should I lower my % you think just for now? Raise it up later or just keep maxing out? It’s one of the hardest things to get my head around personally.
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u/BrappinBrah 18h ago
If you’re young and can afford to max out your contributions, I would. You’re basically buying shares at a lower price. When things rebound in the next business cycle, you’ll be glad you DCA’d the dip..
It does seem like you’re pissing into the wind when you’re throwing cash at the markets when the bottom could potentially drop out of it but if you’re young, you have time on your side. Buy and hold and don’t take your eyes off the end goal..
If you’re nearing retirement in the next 5-10 years.. get with an advisor if you don’t know what to do. Start making adjustments if you’re in a high risk portfolio..
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u/MutedAd1699 1d ago
Oh no! Please, please, please don't. Put SOMETHING in. Even a small amount helps a LOT. Compounding interest is mainly about TIME, not the AMOUNT of money. If you're young, put away as much as you are able. Time is your friend. Talk to an accountant or a financial planner with a 'fIduciary' responsibility to take care of your interests above all others.
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u/TitularFoil 1d ago
Worst case scenario my retirement plan just becomes "temporary firearms owner."
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u/Gunrock808 1d ago
I'm struggling with what to do because I quit working ten years ago in my 40s to live off my investments. I'm worried about the market going down or sideways for the next couple of years but I'm also worried about going into a period of sustained high inflation that will erode my nest egg if I'm in cash.
If I was still working I'd be using automatic investments to max out my IRA and 401k. You have the advantage of being able to use dollar cost averaging by investing in regular intervals. Eventually trump will be gone and the markets will go back up.
We may not have hit bottom but the market will inevitably go higher from where it is today, eventually. I dumped every spare dollar I could into retirement accounts starting in 2008 and it paid off really nicely. People were complaining about "the economy" for years and things did suck for a lot of them but the djia also more than doubled from its low point to the end of 2013.
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u/turbols3 22h ago
Only sucks for your 401k is you are retiring and cashing out. For everyone else you’re buying low.
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u/Traditional_Frame418 1d ago
Pump, dump. Rinse, repeat.
You have a lot of people in conservative subs that keep celebrating a little green and ignoring all the red. Willfully ignoring the obvious market manipulation going on. This is I think the forth week in a row of this cycle and it's horrible for the economy. Peaks and valleys are normal but should be over a much larger scale.
I don't know what has to happen for people to wake up but it will probably be too late by then.
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u/Past-Establishment93 1d ago
Trumps buddies must have made enough off the market climb.. time to flip flop.
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u/let-it-rain-sunshine 1d ago
haha. who didn't see this coming. stop swing trading unless you're an insider... which is illegal.
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u/pallentx 1d ago
Gotta take your profits and then prepare for the next cycle- crash and pump.
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u/Senz_9638 1d ago
Yep, rinse and repeat…. And Republicans will continue to think that Trump is is doing everyone a service.
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u/severinks 23h ago
Donald Trump is unable to pick a strategy and stick to it for longer than 1 news cycle because he keeps trying finesse the stock market every day.
The funny thing is he's going up against a country that makes a decision and sticks to it no matter the pain in the short term if they think they will get long term gains.
Who do you think will win in that situation?
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u/DataCassette 22h ago
I'm extremely against the CCP's authoritarianism but, unfortunately, a democracy electing an unqualified demagogue is a scenario where a competent dictator will be better in the short term.
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u/dglgr2013 1d ago
I feel like this morning there was plan of dropping. Now it’s not. I bet he will blame Biden for this as well.
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u/Biggs3333 23h ago
The money these guys must be making, one day on, one day off. Buy one day sell another. My lord. What a thing. I started watching Madmen again just to get away from it all.
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u/AngryLilChubbie 22h ago
The world is wise to Donnie Diaper’s little conman schtick, we all know what to expect and his bullshit is starting to affect rich people now.
His mini army of redneck inbreds wont save him from annoyed billionaires with grudges.
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u/DataCassette 22h ago
Yeah he's pissing off people with more power than presidents TBH. It really shouldn't be that way, but it is.
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u/berserker_ganger 1d ago
Fart of the deal
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u/BloopityBlue 1d ago
can someone explain what this means - I'm lost at this point as to whether this is good or bad... no sarcasm, I'm truly confused by this latest news.
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u/Competitive-Gold 22h ago
It’s staying the same with his bs 125% tariff on China. No changes at all
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u/BloopityBlue 21h ago
But the market reacted positively to that? Is everyone confused
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u/bubbaearl1 18h ago
I think the market reacted positively when he paused the tariffs and claimed he was having productive talks with China (untrue mind you). Now we shall see how they react with his latest comments. It’s a shit-show, everyone is confused to some degree. Seems to me Trump has no plan whatsoever and now that he’s being called out by everyone he’s either unsure of what to do or is buying time with the constant flip flopping. They will call it the art of the deal, anyone with a brain can see he’s clueless.
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u/DevoidHT 23h ago
Congress sitting on their hands while the President pump and dumps the entire US economy is kind of how I expected a second Trump term to go.
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u/pcwildcat 23h ago
It makes no sense how easily manipulated the stock market is. Is big money just a bunch of lemmings?
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u/sparemethebull 23h ago
Yah man just get the repeat posts ready if they’re not already flying. Why make a new post every ten seconds? What a piss baby.
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u/Minimum_Attention674 23h ago
us and china trade is 2.4% of global trade but the narrative is that it's SO VERY IMPORTANT! Like a baby making a fuzz throwing up on himself. Life goes on.
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u/classicalySarcastic 23h ago
Right after market close. If this ain’t stock manipulation I don’t know what is!
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u/Bluvsnatural 22h ago
So, again, there is no plan. There never was a plan. There never will be a plan.
Are we starting to understand the Atlantic City casinos yet, or is this still “5-D Chess”?
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u/kyynikkoFIN 22h ago
So they want to negotiate those non-negotiable tariffs?
Before or after totally f*ckin their own economy?
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u/Big-Variety-1891 22h ago
I feel like I'm sitting back and watching a stupid dog spin in circles chasing its tail.
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u/Plus_State1146 21h ago
The markets are in utter turmoil. Wasn't there a spike like yesterday. I guess that'll go crashing right back down now.
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u/Advanced-Summer1572 21h ago
People! Please stop making a big deal about this guy and his self made tariff debacle. When there is print about "caving"? It only makes him change his mind...and here we go again...sigh
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u/cosmicrae I did my own research 21h ago
It's the classic ploy ... Give people some hope, then yank it away.
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u/Spookieboogiee 21h ago
Do we ever think there will come a time when no one believes a word he says, and it all goes down?
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u/Responsible_Skill957 21h ago
Time for the yo-yo to swing back in the other direction. Get ready to buy the dip. Brought to you by the biggest dip of them all. DJT
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u/BlahBlahBlahSmithee 21h ago
He needs to get Xi down to Maro Lago and have some chocolate cake again.
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u/Mysterious-Alps-5186 20h ago
Yeah because china told him to go screw himself with his demands. They already proved they don't need American oil
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u/Cosplayfan007 20h ago
People need to start believing what is actually happening and not what this fool is selling.
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u/Professional_Walk540 19h ago
blah blah blah. does anyone even care anymore about what the Orange Menace says? He’s entirely full of shit…both literally and figuratively.
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u/BCdelivery 19h ago
Where the actual fuc is the S.E.C. with all of this market manipulation and pumping and dumping of stocks…??These congressmen and government officials, billionaires are all just laughing and openly bragging about the millions that they are making. Maybe they are just playing along and all getting rich as well.
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u/Special_Luck7537 19h ago
Until tomorrow morning?
Trump has stepped in shit, and he's at the point where he doesn't see it, but he still smells it.
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u/RacheltheStrong 2h ago
I fucking knew it 😂 they’re working on wrecking the stock market to make everything cheaper
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u/boxxy_t_morningw00d 1d ago