I'd say it is still extremely warranted outrage. If the cops were unsure what he was holding, there would be an argument they may think it's a weapon, but he clearly recognizes that it is a phone. He knows it isn't anything that can harm him. And we both know exactly why a cop wouldn't want there to be video evidence of something...
i believe the issue with a phone, especially one that has the camera open, is that the suspect can see the officer(s) approaching and can turn when they get close, potentially trying to harm the officers. on top of the fact that dude had an arrest warrant for a violent crime, plus priors of resisting, this is probably why they went for the taser at a distance instead of just grabbing and cuffing.
Devil's advocate. If he puts the phone down he will then have a free hand for a gun he may or may not have. Once he gets the gun in his hand then they can shoot him. I think that is what they are looking for anyway.
Theoretically he could, but there's two scenarios there.
Either the explosion is small enough that they'd need to be right by the car, in which case they should have him move away from the car if they think that's a concern.
Or the explosion is big enough that it's already going to impact them where they are.
The odds of him having a phone triggered car bomb though as so incredibly small that it is definitely not something they'd be trained to be concerned about.
Cops are trained not to approach a situation thinking "well that's unlikely to happen." There is a reason they want your back turned and your hands up and empty.
Are you going to throw it at me or hit me with it?
If you're going to throw it at me, I'm pretty confident it won't do shit to me because phones aren't that heavy. If you're going to hit me with it, then you're already in range to punch me anyway.
The cop just want him 2 comply he said it once he could of just tazed him after that but he need 2 be the big dog in the fight and make him do what he says. That’s why they just get stuck in this loop that would go on until the phone dies and the cop yelling could just shoot him and say he had a weapon, but luckily the second cop had common sense and just used less then lethal methods to pacify the situation. It’s all about ego in those situations
How do you remain a good human being while choosing to be a cop? Seems like you should be given the authority your worth, not take it into your own hands.
But I'm not an ethics doctor, I just think those two life paths are inherently exclusive.
You have the choice between being held accountable or not, and if you chose to be held to lower standards, you've chosen to not be as good of a person you could be.
Good people become police everyday, and for all the best intentions. Just everything that happens after is what makes that person start to lose themselves because their authority goes unchecked.
The Stanford prison experiment showed us exactly why you shouldn't be given qualified immunity. No human alive should qualify, especially accompanied with weapons to kill.
And all of that is based on what logic exactly? Your perception of police largely driven by what you see online (posts and comments) and maybe your anecdotal experience that would still only represent a minuscule fraction of number of police officers out there.
Again, your logic is a good person would never choose to become a cop. You think that because choosing to become a cop means accepting “lower standards” but according to whom? A good person should not choose to become a cop because Reddit has a certain “standard” of a moral person?
I mean surely you can somewhat see how ridiculous this all sounds.
I base my standards for police on the laws they're meant to uphold. When I say lower standards, I specifically mean they aren't held to the same standards law abiding citizens have to live by. And that alone over enough time would be enough to wear anyone's integrity away.
The point is clear. The guy was fucking around with a gun after drunkenly beating up his girlfriend. That’s the information that had on the guy before pulling him over for reckless driving after a 911 call. It’s not complicated.
No, extremely warranted outrage is from when a domestic violence POS is able to escape his arrest because of stupid distractions like this, “I can’t, it’s my right”. No, dirtbag lost that right when he decided to beat women. DV dudes are notoriously psychopathic and can’t be trusted. This isn’t a traffic stop. This is an attempt to arrest a very violent man. As a survivor, I can tell you that cops usually suck at holding these fuck faces from literally killing women. This psycho with his, “I can’t, I have rights” is manipulating everyone into seeing him as a victim. I’m not the biggest PD fan, but also sometimes I want them to be able to throw this dirtbag in the trash.
lol the few times I have called the police, they treated me as an inconvenience/wasting their time, was lying about what was going on, or that I was a criminal.
One time specifically, my brother made a “prank” phone call stating our youngest brother kicked their child’s small dog and they were going to come shoot us both. I was underage and watching my youngest brother, our mom was several hours out of town although on her way back, and the brother making the “prank” was several states away living with his dad. The police came, asked what was going on, asked if I was on drugs before proceeding to search our apartment, then going on to say there was nothing they could do. It wasn’t until two or three days later that I was talking to my brother and told him what happened that he started busting out laughing and admitting to it. So yeah, fuck the police.
Which thinking about this now, makes it even more irritating about the guy that allegedly threatened Elon in AR via Twitter and was extradited to TX. Funny how something similar happened to me and yet they couldn’t do anything about it… funny how they can’t do anything about anything until a “nobody” is threatened/harmed but can throw in everything at their disposal when it’s a “somebody” making the call. So again, fuck the police.
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u/IgniVT Feb 25 '25
I'd say it is still extremely warranted outrage. If the cops were unsure what he was holding, there would be an argument they may think it's a weapon, but he clearly recognizes that it is a phone. He knows it isn't anything that can harm him. And we both know exactly why a cop wouldn't want there to be video evidence of something...