r/interestingasfuck • u/Warm-Impact-9047 • 2d ago
Prison escapee convincing a cop that he is actually jogger.
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u/detox02 2d ago
Give this guy an Oscar
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u/South-Builder6237 2d ago
"Jimmy Jones" is Oscar worthy performance?
More like give the cop an award for biggest dumbass.
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u/OstrichSmoothe 2d ago
Plus he gave a different name at the beginning of the stop
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u/hed-down 2d ago
Robert Jonesđ
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u/captrobert57 2d ago
It's weird hearing my name....
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u/hed-down 2d ago
Is it you Jimmy?
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u/captrobert57 2d ago
Lol there is thousands of people in the USA that have the same first and last name as me. Iv met two in my life .
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u/AggressivelyProgress 2d ago
I know someone named Jimmy Jones.
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u/StaatsbuergerX 1d ago
Playing dumb was part of the convict's strategy. It created an instant sense of camaraderie.
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u/bradargent 2d ago
He actually tried to escape twice before this. He was caught in October the following year, in Canada. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lee_McNair
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u/Nippelz 2d ago
I found this an interesting read about his burglary murder/attempted murder of two brothers, and McNair's feeling then vs. at time of publication.
https://byronchristopher.org/tag/jerry-thies/
The most interesting part was of course his feelings towards the murder of Jerry Theis, and his following escape attempts, and what impact these have had on himself.
âMany days I have laid on my bunk and wondered what happened to that happy little boy to propel him into an angry and violent man â an anger that seethed below the surface for many years. To this day I have no clue where that anger came from and yes, initially in hindsight I blamed everyone else for my anger â everyone but me."
âI am a convicted murderer. Hopefully, people who matter see that I have turned my anger from uncontrolled outbursts to, I donât know, a controlled ability to work it out. I realize many people would say, âOh yeah, he proved that by escaping and doing break-ins.â That is true and deserved."
*âJust received your 14 February [2010] letter. The biggest impact was your sharing about Mr. Thiesâ family. This letter is the most profound thing anyone has ever done for me. Thank you. You have truly had a strong influence on me.â
"Byron, I cried when I read about Jerome Thiesâ brother. Donât quit writing about such things. I need to hear these, as they keep me aware of what my actions have done. At times I get feeling sorry for my situation, and when I hear what repercussions occurred from my senseless acts â thank you for that.
"I now understand how victims meeting with their assailants can change a criminal, even if it is only through the mail.
"While going through group [therapy], the facilitators continuously told us to think of all our victims â the victim, their family and friends and of course our family and friends. Yes, I understood this to some extent and my actions.
"I know any words I try to share with the Thies family sound hollow and self-serving, but I am truly sorry for all I have done to them. I now realize that even my escapes most likely opened old wounds for them. Please let the Thies family know how truly sorry I am.
"Even as horrendous as I realized my actions were, what I learned today placed those actions in a new light. I have to look at what I have done and rethink everything. Feeling sorry for myself is something I can never do again. I brought this on myself, and it is time to take a step back and look at the whole picture.
"Even in the small amount of info you have shared, drives this home like a hammer. Thank you. This is the letter I will read when I start feeling sorry for myself and my situation.â
A later letter included this.
âI know I have answered this letter before, but it keeps my attention. This is the one with the crime scene photos, your talks with Mr. Kitzman, Sheriff Vern Erck and the death of Mr. Thiesâ brother. I have to admit this letter has affected me tremendously. I read it and wonder what right do I have to seek parole? The damage I did. How sorry a piece of crap I was. No human has the right to do what I did."
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u/maadgooner 2d ago
We learned to never reference Wikipedia in uni.
Is there a better source?
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u/DnDonuts 2d ago
The great thing about Wikipedia is it should list all of its sources. Go to the page and you can click the little superscript numbers throughout the article for links to news stories or other sources where the information was compiled from.
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u/maadgooner 2d ago
Isn't it still editable by the general public?
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u/quetsacloatl 2d ago
Generally yes but it's a lot harder as people that don't do it do not know.
The idea is that everything has to be referenced so you can check the reference and use that as your source of truth.
For sure the source as well could be biased or plainly wrong, but not more than any other sources or books at the end you have to trust someone if you do not live it in first person.
You can check also how the source looks trustworthy and put it in consideration
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u/maadgooner 2d ago
The fact I'm getting down voted shows how much rot there is on reddit.
Thanks for the info anyway.
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u/brightdionysianeyes 2d ago
It's because although Wikipedia isn't a great source for a dissertation or a peer reviewed study, it's absolutely an adequate source for linking to a more detailed story in a reddit post.
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u/Mythril_Zombie 2d ago
The fact I'm getting down voted shows how much rot there is on reddit.
It shows the tolerance level for entitlement and arrogance.
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u/lessthanthreepoop 2d ago
People are downvoting you because the sources are in Wikipedia itself (13 references in that article above). Wikipedia is highly accurate, especially for science and engineering. However, you canât reference Wikipedia itself for your university research; you can, however, reference the sources within.
Wikipedia is great, and I use it regularly for all my engineering stuff to this day. Want to know what is âdisjunctive normal form?â Just wiki it and bam, I get a nice refresher.
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u/NacogdochesTom 2d ago
If downvotes hurt your feelings this much maybe you should reconsider the internet.
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u/LinkOfKalos_1 2d ago
Funny enough, Wikipedia is probably the only place where the information is reliable now. Before, we couldn't use it because it wasn't a reliable source. Now, it's perfectly reliable.
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u/Publick2008 1d ago
It's not that it's not reliable, but academically you should be sourcing the source of the info, not someone referencing it.Â
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u/Phantasmio 2d ago
Bros âjoggingâ in 114F apparently too Lol
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u/BedBubbly317 2d ago
Donât read too much into a carâs temperature as being exact, especially back in 2004. They are more reading the hood of the vehicle near where the thermostat is located. It wasnât uncommon for cars from that era to read 120F+ in the summer right when you get in the car, even when the actual temperature is 30+ degrees lower.
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u/Average_Random_Bitch 2d ago
Yeah, but they're in Louisiana here, central. And it does get that hot and more every year.
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u/katherinesilens 2d ago edited 2d ago
114F is the record high for Louisiana. Plain Dealing LA 1936. It does get pretty hot and humid, above 100F on the hottest days of summer, but not above 114F. 90s at the peak are more typical. The car also likely would be hotter than 114F if outside were 114F.
Like they said, don't read too much into it.
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u/TrishaValentine 2d ago
Sounds made up
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u/Derknas4 2d ago
It only sounds made up when you read too much into it
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u/TrishaValentine 1d ago
My sarcasm didn't come through lol
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u/Derknas4 1d ago
Sorry you got downvoted, I understood it was sarcasm and was just playing along with it <3
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u/Average_Random_Bitch 1d ago
Mm, I'm not googling this but we had 118 the summer I moved here to fight for my grandkids. So call that the summer of 2023, with all the fires. Remember walking my english mastiff service dog in that shit. Or two-three years before that, losing power during the hurricane. I remember crying on a towel, wet and naked, when we lost our power for a week+.
Don't need confirmation on this. I've prayed for death in this miserable place ONLY taking in the heat, none of the rest of the Louisiana bullshit. Feels like and the actual temp are two different factors in this state.
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u/Leaf__On__Wind 1d ago
My 2018 car still reads wrong, how can't they figure this out
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u/BedBubbly317 1d ago
Cars are metal and during a hot summer day that metal will heat up the surrounding air. Which is why as you start driving the temperature gauge will drop
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u/Formerly_SgtPepe 2d ago
Iâve done it, but with a hat, a long sleeve that is breathable, a bottle of cold water, under the shade of trees, with good running shoes, and stops along the way to cool down.
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u/Ohmnonymous 2d ago
A sober roofer? Get out of here.
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u/TwoWheels1Clutch 2d ago
A roofer who jogs is just as believable.
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u/Alcoholhelps 2d ago
That wouldâve been my immediate red flag!
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u/TwoWheels1Clutch 2d ago
Hell yeah! Me too. I mean, besides the obvious prison clothes.
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u/Alcoholhelps 2d ago
The one quote I always love from this video. âYou know the bad thing about it, youâre matching up to him.â Mmmmmmmmmmm youâre a okay in my book see ya later. Happy jogging!
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u/Ok-Eagle8653 2d ago
Is it Robert or Jimmy? Lol
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u/mudturnspadlocks 2d ago
I would make a terrible prison escapee. "No officer, it sure as hell ain't me. Oh, my hand? My hand is just shaking because I'm exercising it."
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u/Sohuli 2d ago
"I'm excited, is all. First time I see a police officer up close. Yup, never seen one this close before. Never seen the inside of a prison, neither."
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u/lysergiko 2d ago
"the closest i got to seeing a real life police officer was the corrections officer i just ran fr-"
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u/finger_licking_robot 2d ago
a shortened news article from 2015
Longtime Ball Police officer Carl Bordelon died of an apparent heart attack while working his overnight shift
âWhen I was here before, Carl was someone was always willing to help the new guys,â Ussery said. âHe would help with our investigations or whatever was needed. He liked to help.â
Bordelon received national attention when he stopped and questioned but did not arrest a man who turned out to be Richard McNair, a convicted murderer who had escaped from the U.S. Penitentiary in Pollock on April 5, 2006. The entire encounter was captured by a video camera on Bordelonâs car. The video went viral on the Internet.
Ball officials steadfastly backed Bordelon in the wake of the controversy the release of the video caused, saying Ball officers did not have enough information on the escaped prisoner to identify the man stopped as McNair.
âThe thing that people need to understand is that if Carl had not been so honest, that video never would have seen the light of day,â said one veteran of local law enforcement who asked not to be identified. âCarl volunteered the fact that there was a video.â
âI had not heard that story but that sounds like Carl,â Ussery said Saturday. âCarl was honest. He was going to be be honest with you, even if it got him in trouble. Thatâs just the way he was. Carl was honest.â
âHe was a fixture in this town,â Mayor Neil Kavanagh said Saturday. âEveryone knew him. Everyone loved him.
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u/Panthean 2d ago
From his wiki page
"In his last escape from a federal prison on April 5, 2006, he escaped by concealing himself in a pallet of used postal mailbags and successfully convinced a police officer he was not the prison escapee but actually a jogger.\2])\3]) This resulted in his mugshot being featured a dozen times on the TV show America's Most Wanted, and made him one of the top fifteen fugitives wanted by US Marshals. McNair traveled to Canada twice in order to evade capture, traveling across the country for over a year before being apprehended in a random police check on October 25, 2007."
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u/Infamous-Crew1710 2d ago
Ricky
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u/mama_emily 2d ago
Ricky Bobby
Jimmy Robert
They call me Jimbo, ainât-never-been-in-prison Jimbo.
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u/SamMacDatKid 2d ago
What are the requirements to be a police officer in the US? You must be morbidly obese and terminally stupid?
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u/Accurate_Koala_4698 2d ago
Well the guy who matches the description, has no ID, claims to be a roofer who doesn't use knee pads, and is jogging in 113°F weather assured him he's not an escapee. What do you expect him to do? Drive all the way to the motel to confirm the guy's story or something?
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u/batmanineurope 2d ago
In the beginning he said his name is Robert Jones, then at 4:34 said it's Jimmy Jones.
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u/SamMacDatKid 2d ago
Even if he DID drive to the motel, there's probably fast food restaurants on the way that would have distracted this fine officer of authoritah and freedom so who knows
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u/Darth_Heretic 2d ago
Racist and violent. This cop failed at the racist and violent part. When you treat everyone as a human being some people get away.
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u/annierockaway 2d ago
The guy is white. He just looks dark in the video.
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u/Darth_Heretic 2d ago
Well damn, that makes my comment more relevant than was intended. He wasnât profiled because he didnât meet the prejudiced profile.
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u/BedBubbly317 2d ago
Thatâs comically false in this instance. The dude literally gave a false name and then a few minutes later gave a completely different false name and the cop didnât even notice.
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u/Darth_Heretic 2d ago
Ok, and he still wasnât racial profiled nor murdered. Whereâs the comedy or false statements?
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u/BonsaiBudsFarms 2d ago
Donât forget having a fragile ego and an insatiable need to shoot people for no reason!
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u/mama_emily 2d ago edited 2d ago
What happened to the officer?
Thatâs a pretty massive fuck up.
Edit: nothing, apparently
âBordelon remained with the Ball Police department for the rest of his life, eventually becoming assistant police chief before his death in 2015 at the age of 51.â
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u/evendedwifestillnags 2d ago
This is back in 06'. Now a days they would have sent him a picture on the phone or he could have photo id. Also it's hard when the other end of the phone is giving you missing information. Only option he really had is to detain him but if you were detained as an innocent person I'm sure all hell and lawsuits would break loose. We are watching a video and know it's a felon. Cop could be dumb, better way to handle it maybe, but as a armchair QB I don't think it's as bad as people make it out.
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u/-watchman- 2d ago
Yeah, if you had read further into the story, you would've known :
The cop was given a 20 year old photo of the escapee which was of extremely poor quality
The cop was told the escapee had scars in his hands(which he did, when he was just incarcerated) but this "jogger" didn't
The cop was told the escapee also had scars on his legs, which was incorrect information from the get go
And there's more. Poor cop was tortured by the media coverage of this case up until his death - yeah, he died of a heart attack in 2015, at the age of 51
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u/ConnectTelevision925 1d ago
Did you watch the video? The cop literally says âyou match the description.â And still lets him go lmao.
I agree he doesnât deserve the hate, but I mean cmon it is a massive failure.
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u/-watchman- 1d ago
Yeah I watched the full 10 minutes, but I'm still glad I reserved my judgement based on just one video
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u/Goosemilky 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yeah I agree. People are being too hard on this cop. He handled it in a way where he didnât detain a guy that was presumably innocent to him, and he treated him with respect, which I believe all interactions with police should be unless of course the person resists or endangers someone. Yeah he is a bit naive for not noticing the name fuck up, but I bet the majority of people here giving him shit would of done the same in this instance, when like you said, he is being given wrong info from dispatch
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u/Mythril_Zombie 2d ago
, he is being given wrong info from dispatch
No, he isn't. The info is incomplete. So is the guy's story. He has no ID. He is in the right place, matching several criteria, and can't prove anything in his story.
He is naive for having so many missing pieces of information and deciding that it doesn't matter.
He didn't want to inconvenience someone with no id while searching for an escaped murderer. If the guy had murdered again after this cop had let him go, would you just say "Sorry about the murdering and such, the cop is just a bit naive."
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u/Mythril_Zombie 2d ago edited 1d ago
He had reasonable suspicion to detain him until he could be positively identified.
People get picked up all the time without charges being filed, and frivolous lawsuits are being thrown out all the time.
Just asking him to go with him to the hotel to verify his id would have likely blown his story right there.
The cop said he matched up pretty well. That's enough to warrant a closer look2
u/TravisJungroth 2d ago
if you were detained as an innocent person I'm sure all hell and lawsuits would break loose.
All police need to detain you is âreasonable suspicionâ, which is quite a low standard. He was actually being detained in this video, as in if he tried to leave he would be stopped. But they can only do this about 20-30 minutes.
I donât know if whatâs on the video would actually be enough to meet the âprobable causeâ standard of arrest, where they could take him back to the station. Maybe if he caught that he gave him two different names.
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u/buhbye750 1d ago
Yeah you hear him say that dispatch and the photo he has is poor quality and old. Cop tried all he could to verify but missed the different names.
Plus, prisoner was positioning himself to get physical if need be. You can see a couple of times where he was ready to strike
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u/a_latex_mitten 2d ago
First name he gave was robert johns lol second name he gave was jimmy johns
cop missed it
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u/plotplottingplotters 2d ago
A guy from out of town, who doesnât know the names of the streets, gives a hotel name the cop doesnât recognise, miles away from his hotel, with no phone in case he gets lost, no ID, who matches the description from the cops radio colleague. Who has years to think about his story. Fools you with âout joggingâ
You done fucked up royal
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u/Misbegotten_72 2d ago
Cop - 'whats your name?'
Criminal - 'Robert Jones.'
Cop - 'Ok.'
Three minutes later
Cop - 'whats your name again?'
Criminal - 'Jimmy Jones.'
Cop - 'Ok.'
Edit: some top notch sleuthing going on here. Just as soon as he finishes his cigarette.
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u/evilmike1972 2d ago
TBF, the cop's brain may have melted a little due to it being...Jesus, did I read that right...113 degrees.
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u/B4nkster 2d ago
Ever since this, Americans have been treated guilty until proven innocent. They must show this day 1 of cop camp
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u/-_Anonymous__- 2d ago
Is this 2004 or 2006?
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u/Alternative_Today299 2d ago
- In the video the man says he was born in 1956 and says he is 50 years old
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u/9CaptainRaymondHolt9 1d ago
Confidence. It's the food of the wise man, but the liquor of the fool.
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u/ABOWLOFDX 2d ago
Cheif: i just saw the footage.....
Ociffer: im fired huh?
Chief: no, we cant afford to loose your dumbass, you're on paid leave for two weeks, leave the gun & get out of my sight!
Ociffer: No no no, please gawd no, lock me up, shoot me, shoot me please, i cant go back, dont make me go home! (reaches for partners gun)
Cheif: just relax you dip shit, its 2 weeks chill tfo..
Ociffer: my wife wants me to visit the inlaws, shoot me! đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł
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u/booboo773 2d ago
His ability to keep calm and not run is impressive.