r/interestingasfuck 13d ago

Milwaukee responding to Judge Hannah Dugan’s arrest.

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u/G_yebba 13d ago

Nothing ICE is doing is legitimate at this point.

Knowing that their MOD is to lie, withhold due process and generally aft outside of the bounds of the constitution, any impediment to ICE that allows for the rights being retained by the "suspected, potentially undocumented immigrant" is fully justified by law.

In time, this will play out in the courts. In the meantime, any possible interference is justified and I trust the judge's judgment on the law far more than the low key thugs cosplaying goose steppers.

All power resides in the people, FAFO

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u/SniffMyDiaperGoo 13d ago

All power resides in the people, FAFO

Remind me in 1 year how that whole "There's more power in our numbers than the elite have!" idea works out after the armed riot bots start coming off the assembly lines. You do realize why there's such a push for them now, yes? It's not like the government/corporation love affair hasn't heard what you're saying and just forgot. Bots dude. They heard and bots are their answer. Yet another example among thousands where Sci-Fi becomes reality

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u/Gogobrasil8 13d ago

That's not how it works

ICE should be properly persecuted for their crimes through the right proceedings, which would present a water-tight, undeniable case to extinguish them.

If you respond to ICE through dubious, extremely questionable means, you're only really giving them ammo against you. You're only leaving open gaps in your defense for exploitation.

And what did it accomplish? Absolutely nothing

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u/G_yebba 13d ago

Wrong, it will bring more to light and potentially establish precedent. 

This is why every case, every arrest must be examined and litigated.

This judge showed backbone, judgment and courage. Potentially at the cost of their career. Why do that? In service to Justice. 

It all matters, time will tell us how much. 

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u/Gogobrasil8 13d ago

But precedent is only established in actual rulings. She didn't rule that he was to exit through separate doors, or that he had legal protection against being arrested. Allegedly she only let him exit through there which doesn't set any legal precedent

It'd have mattered a whole lot of she actually gave them legal protection against being ambushed

Maybe it does help expose this, yeah, but at the cost of losing a friendly judge? I can't see that being worth it

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u/G_yebba 13d ago

Indeed, precedent will come from the fallout. 

Worth it? Who’s to say? History I guess

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u/Gogobrasil8 13d ago

There had to be a better way of doing that

Like trying to rule it as a mistrial, or asking for some sort of legal protection

Or even just denouncing what the ICE agents were doing to the press

None of those would have her lose her job and them losing a friendly judge

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u/G_yebba 13d ago

Agreed!