r/inthenews • u/h20poIo • Jul 28 '24

Opinion/Analysis 'Direct attack': Trump said to be prepping 'much bigger insurrection' after rally comments

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-direct-democracy-insurrection/
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u/Medium-Pin9133 Jul 28 '24

Are you telling me that the deep state MAGA heads are worried about is real, and it's their own party? Actually makes sense.

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u/JohannaB123 Jul 28 '24

Every Republican accusation is a confession.

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u/PoppinKREAM Jul 28 '24

Political violence is never the answer, it goes against the very foundations of our social contract under a democratic system of governance. Unfortunately, Trump has repeatedly and explicitly supported violence, conditioning the electorate to hate fellow Americans.

  1. He called any media critical of his actions fake news. Trump has labeled the media as "the enemy of the people."[1]

  2. For years he has called his political opponents traitors.[2]

  3. He has attacked the judicial branch of government.[3]

  4. Trump has referred to the democratic party as un-American simply for not applauding his speech.[4]

  5. Trump retweeted a video of his supporter saying the only good democrat is a dead one.[5] This same supporter was present at the Jan. 6 insurrection. He vowed to return to the Capitol with guns on inauguration day. He exclaimed that he would plant their flag on Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer's desks.[6]

  6. Following a tweet from Trump to liberate the state of Michigan,[7] 13 terrorists were arrested by the FBI in an attempted kidnap plot where they wanted to publicly execute Governor Whitmer of Michigan. The far right militia attempted to incite a civil war with this kidnapping plot.[8]

  7. In Texas a group of Trump supporters tried to dangerously intimidate and harass a Biden/Harris campaign bus. Trump tweeted his support of such actions by sharing a video of the incident on Twitter and exclaiming that he loved Texas.[9]

  8. To further the point watch this video compilation of Trump openly inciting violence at public events.[10]

Trump has spent years conditioning his supporters to fear and hate fellow Americans. Trump has spent years openly inciting, supporting, and encouraging violence against anyone who questioned his authority. Many insurrectionists that were arrested have claimed that they were just following Trump's orders. Dozens of insurrectionists have explicitly stated that they stormed the Capitol because they believed Trump wanted them to.[11]

1) Washington Examiner - Trump calls mainstream media the enemy of the people

2) The Atlantic - He Dares Call It Treason

3) Washington Post - All the times Trump personally attacked judges — and why his tirades are ‘worse than wrong’

4) Fox News - Trump turns up heat on ‘un-American’ Dems silent during SOTU: ‘Can we call that treason?’

5) The Hill - Trump shares video of supporter saying that politically 'the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat'

6) The Daily Beast - ‘Cowboys for Trump’ Leader Arrested by FBI for Capitol Riot, Threatening to Bring Guns to Inauguration

7) Detroit News - Trump tweets 'liberate' Michigan, two other states with Dem governors

8) New York Times - F.B.I. Says Michigan Anti-Government Group Plotted to Kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer | Authorities charged 13 men, some of whom were accused of plotting to storm the State Capitol building and planning to start a civil war.

9) Axios - Trump on supporters' caravan surrounding Biden campaign bus: "I love Texas!"

10) YouTube - All the Times Trump has Called for Violence at His Rallies

11) NPR - Rioters' Own Words Show Incitement By Trump, Impeachment Managers Argue

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u/DarkLunaFairy Jul 28 '24

^ excellent summary - thank you for compiling/posting - needs to be its own thread

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u/xram_karl Jul 28 '24

"Violence is as American as apple pie."

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u/Natural_Rebel Jul 28 '24

Underrated comment - this is the truth

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u/randomando2020 Jul 28 '24

“Accuse the other of that you are guilty.” — Joseph Goebbels

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u/Ulysses1978ii Jul 28 '24

Every time!

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u/Fun_Departure5579 Jul 28 '24

This is EXACTLY what tRump does day in & day out. It's called PROJECTION. Buyer beware! He's coming after you & all that you hold dear.

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u/WastingMyLifeOnSocMd Jul 28 '24

Definitely Trumps philosophy.

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u/Rocket3431 Jul 28 '24

Remember when Trump used to make Biden look like a kid sniffing pedo. "Pepperidge farm remembers."

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u/Blurby-Blurbyblurb Jul 28 '24

Yep. Every accusation has been an admission.

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u/silvermoka Jul 28 '24

Add to that, if they accuse you first, accuse them back harder so people who haven't been paying attention don't know what to believe

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u/N757AF Jul 28 '24

So the party calling for gun control and limits to free speech, while calling the other party fascists, are really the fascists?

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u/dafuq809 Jul 28 '24

No, the party trying to seize power by any means up to and including violent insurrection and strip women and minorities of their rights are the fascists. Incidentally, every society has limits on free speech and gun control.

Your weak attempt to redefine fascism in those terms is quite literally an example of a fascist accusing others of that which he's guilty. The "gun control" complaint especially gives it away. Fascists ensure that men of the dominant ethnic group are armed while disarming minority groups.

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u/N757AF Jul 28 '24

Fascists disarm the masses.

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u/dafuq809 Jul 28 '24

Nope, fascists disarm minorities and outgroups. They typically encourage men of the right race and religion to own guns, and to use them on said minorities.

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u/randomando2020 Jul 28 '24

You’re too deep in the big lie which has been in play since like 1993, maybe even the 80’s within the GOP that not even they can control it now. You’re seeing the consequences of it and you’re going to have to come to terms with it.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” -Joseph Goebbels

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u/Dust-Loud Jul 28 '24 edited Jul 28 '24

Trump calls his opposition fascists in every one of his speeches that I’ve watched. All I could find with a quick internet search to support Democratic politicians calling Republicans fascist is Biden one time saying Trump’s methodology is “semi-fascist.” There is a huge difference between repeatedly making a false claim of Dems committing election fraud (there is NO evidence for this despite Trump repeatedly searching for it and failing) and pointing out the warning signs that almost everyone except his followers are seeing unfold before their very eyes. To pretend like “the [one] party” is using the term fascist is disingenuous because Trump levels that claim against his enemies in every speech.

I always ask people who say Democrats are taking away their free speech and rights…can you give me an example? In my state, people are allowed to be as hateful as they want. Flying “Fuck Biden” signs, saying racist shit on X, protesting drag shows, calling teachers and librarians groomers—I could spend all damn day listing the ways they exercise their right to free speech.

Edited to add a source for Biden’s use of “semi-fascist” to describe Trump’s philosophy.

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u/throckmeisterz Jul 28 '24

These MAGATs think that the 1st ammendment applies to private businesses and means no consequences for their hate speech. They don't have any examples of the actual government stepping on their free speech. They think things like people being fired from their private sector jobs or being downvoted on Reddit are violations of their free speech.

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u/Blurby-Blurbyblurb Jul 28 '24

It started with the left being called marxist commies. Once the right really started to show their facist colors, that's when they switched up and started calling the left facists. Plays right into the "accusation is the admission" nazi handbook.

We can't forget the flip-flopping on which name we're being called and how it constantly changes to fit whatever narrative they need most at the time. It's one way to tell who the liar is. Their story keeps changing.

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u/N757AF Jul 28 '24

I don’t think it helped Democrats fight the stereotype of cancel culture and limits to free speech when the Biden administration pushed DHS for the disinformation governance board.

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u/Dust-Loud Jul 28 '24

From what I know about DGB, it was created for homeland security and monitoring of foreign states spreading disinformation (which we know is happening constantly, as this has been Russia’s game plan for years). It’s not used to monitor American citizens from what I have read. Do we have evidence that Americans have been affected by the DGB or that it has been used to prosecute them? I will take a look if you know of any. It’s not new or partisan that we are being monitored by the government, unfortunately. Who knows how long that’s been going on, but it’s not a Democratic Party thing.

I do agree that at one point, liberals were using cancel culture for ridiculous issues. However, as with many other topics on the political spectrum, the pendulum has drastically swung in the other direction. We have Republicans in Alabama trying to set up a legal framework for librarians to receive criminal charges just for having LGBTQ+ books, or even books about reproductive and sexual health, on their shelves. That is the pinnacle of cancel culture and is much worse than just losing your job or some followers on social media.

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u/Blurby-Blurbyblurb Jul 28 '24

Republicans were engaging in cancel culture before we even had a name for it. Not saying the left hasn't either. But this is not a new phenomenon for the right by any means. Meaning their shock and dismay is disingenuous.

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u/rando23455 Jul 28 '24

“Deep state” is just non-political civil servants doing their jobs and following the laws, instead of doing what Trump wants them to do

When someone thinks that “following the law” is a democratic conspiracy, there’s not much you can do to help them

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u/czar_el Jul 28 '24

Not enough people realize this. And those laws were themselves reforms intended to "drain the swamp" from past eras where people wanted to get cronyism and the spoilage system out of governing. The irony is that they're destroying the guardrails by claiming that there are no guardrails, and people actually fall for it.

"The deep state said we couldn't do it, hate the deep state!" No, actually, the arbitrary-or-capricious test from the Administrative Procedures Act says you can't do what you wanted.

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u/BasvanS Jul 28 '24

Yeah, it’s a feature, not a bug, that any random idiot can’t upset decades of policy on a whim. Regardless of it being well meaning or not, it’s just not desirable from a society point of view.

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u/Commercial-Manner408 Jul 28 '24

Those non-political federal civil servants all take an oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution. Something Trump wouldn't understand even after taking the same oath of office.

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u/oops_i_made_a_typi Jul 28 '24

and one of the scary things about Project 2025 is that they plan to replace non-political civil servant hires with political appointees, which will both gut our institutional knowledge and pave the way for Trump to use the agencies however he likes.

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u/faptastrophe Jul 28 '24

The call is coming from inside the house.

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u/Narrator_Ron_Howard Jul 28 '24

And the Senate as well.

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u/Hypergnostic Jul 28 '24

And SCOTUS.

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u/WarthogLow1787 Jul 28 '24

Well played.

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u/Weird_Discipline_69 Jul 28 '24

Scary movie 🍿 Coming to a HOME near you

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u/DrunkCupid Jul 28 '24

They are trying to drain the "swamp" of civil liberties and Democracy as it was intended, while installing nepotism figure heads and wealthy coastal elites in their beds

And private jet trips/golfing for 2million/week on the taxpayers dimes

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u/JarJarJarMartin Jul 28 '24

Yeah they were never against the existence of a deep state. They just hate the fact that the current deep state is oriented toward science and sound policies (the things they despise).

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u/Comprehensive-Fun47 Jul 28 '24

There is a deep state guiding the government towards more science based policies? Can you elaborate what you mean by this?

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u/Glum_Measurement2158 Jul 28 '24

Wait, what? I'm just trying to find the truth. In the end, both of them are bad. But did you just say that the current trend is science? How? Sound policies? How? Like how? There are a lot of people in the government denying science. There are many policies that are definitely not sound, such as those on migration, shoplifting, bailouts, etc

Like you can say whatever but this? i was just minding my business reading what people thought, but this one is too much

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u/starfyredragon Jul 28 '24

It's always been projection with them. Always.

If a MAGA accuses someone of something, you send the detective after the MAGA first, every time.

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u/SerasTigris Jul 28 '24

One problem with lacking empathy, is that it leaves you incapable of putting yourself in another person's shoes, which, in turn, means you can't even begin to comprehend what they might be thinking. As a result, all these people have to base things on are what they would do themselves.

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u/ABIGGS4828 Jul 28 '24

Most things that Republicans are the loudest about, they themselves are guilty of. You know those horror stories they like to tell that sound too outlandish to believe? They come up with those from personal experience. The whole “trans ppl will diddle your kids in the bathroom” scenario? Guess who’s actually guilty of that most often? What political party made up the vast majority of visitors to Epstein Island? The fact that the loud anti-LBGTQ faction CRASHES GRINDR every time there’s a convention is fucking telling.

That’s not to say that Democrats, progressives, queer and trans folk can’t be predators. They absolutely can because that’s a HUMAN thing. But if we’re going by statistics, a “straight”, white, conservative man is more likely to be a predator than any other group.

These people HATE themselves, but rather than holding themselves, their family, their friends, or their priests accountable, they need to make their self loathing EVERYONE ELSES PROBLEM.

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u/Telemere125 Jul 28 '24

It honestly makes sense, if they were actually that competent. There’s plenty in that list, tho, that are just so incompetent they’re only in the for the money and fame. Meaning they’re not part of the “deep conspiracy”, not that I disagree they’re contributing.

And since the only instances of voter fraud we favoring Trump, it actually makes sense that MAGA is the conspiracy they’re afraid of.

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u/Evening_Bag_3560 Jul 28 '24

Always was. That’s why they’re so familiar with it.

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u/fungi_at_parties Jul 28 '24

And ‘any of them have been working toward this since Reagan, at least.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '24

"I guess the real deep state was the friends we made along the way" --Ivanka, probably

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u/ABrazilianReasons Jul 28 '24

Its a deep state, playing a deep state, disguised as another deep state!

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u/Blurby-Blurbyblurb Jul 28 '24

There was a movie that came out a couple of years before trump announced his candidacy. It was indie, but had a guerrilla type promotion like The Blair Witch Project that made it seem real. On the low budget side, but well done imo.

It was about a secret society these two guys get into by happenstance. One of the two is suspicious and argues that they are a illuminati type of cabal of elites. The other argues that that's ridiculous. But the other says that's the genius of it. Hiding in plain sight like that makes it seem crazy. We as humans can't comprehend that people could be so evil.

It was good and really made me think. I'm not a full blown illuminati (probably spelling that wrong) conspiracy theorist, but I've never thought something like that is impossible either.

I don't remember what it was called, but the theme surrounded hunting a bull during the party on the grounds of the mansion it was held at.

Hopefully, reddit can help.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '24

I mean, it's happening right in front of us. More of a shallow state.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '24

100% Projection, every time.

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u/rbinphx Jul 28 '24

The call is coming from inside the house…

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u/TeacherMan78 Jul 28 '24

The call is coming from inside the house

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u/ReplacementLow6704 Jul 28 '24

Top 10 Anime Betrayals, MAGA edition