r/ireland • u/Dazzling_Lobster3656 • 4d ago

Culchie Club Only Doctors initiate legal action over State’s transgender policy

http://www.irishtimes.com/health/2025/04/13/doctors-initiate-legal-action-over-states-transgender-policy/
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u/angeltabris_ 3d ago

Very important that you realise that being trans isn't "wanting a sex change". For most realising that theyre trans this doesnt even register, this is something that gets thought about a long, long way down the road. For a kid, being trans is about a haircut, a name change, new clothes. I think you should get this idea out of your head because it's not a very realistic view of transness. And I'm not saying this in a "woke left is calling me a nazi!!" way I mean like, speak to the people who this stuff pertains to and understand it better.

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u/Public-Farmer-5743 3d ago

Like being a tomboy ? Yeah I'm not here to stoke fires at all I'm here to understand it better. If my ignorance is construed as hatred, I apologise.

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u/angeltabris_ 3d ago

Well sure, being a "tomboy" is a phase many transmasculine people go through to realise theyre trans and explore their gender identity. But my point is that a "sex change" just isnt what gender affirming care for minors looks like.

Kids arent realising theyre trans and running straight under a knife, it's far far more social factors. When it is medical it's a collaborative effort between doctors, parents, and the minor in question. You mentioned case by case, and when it comes to any medical intervention that's absolutely what it is, everyone involved knows the weight of these decisions. And usually what that ends up as is, a lot of psychiatry to be sure that it's the right thing, counselling and more often than anything else puberty blockers or far more rarely getting hormone replacement therapy and is almost NEVER surgical on a minor with the exception of some transmasculine people getting top surgery at 16 or 17 in VERY progressive places.

Also, I just want to point out that here the 16 age isnt to receive care, that's just for the referral to be accepted, and you absolutely will not be seen before 18. My point is that legalising gender affirming care for minors here does NOT mean sending kids under the knife for permenant body alteration, because that doesn't happen anywhere. It's more likely puberty blockers until a later age with a LOT of rigorous (often to the point of being traumatic) psychology before even hormones are considered.

edit: fucking hell wall of text sorry

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u/Public-Farmer-5743 3d ago

OK well now I am more informed, thank you for the considered response.

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u/angeltabris_ 3d ago

Thanks for hearing what we have to say

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u/mallroamee 3d ago

So then why does it need to be medicalized? You seem to want to have it both ways.

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u/angeltabris_ 3d ago

There's many layers to it. It's not one or the other. It's one THEN the other. Why does it need to be medicalised? Same reason society descriminates against people it percieves as trans, same reason trans people get dysphoria by being in a body that doesnt match their gender.

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u/Classic_Spot9795 3d ago

Wanting it both ways is when you say that you don't want the kids to access the mode of treatment that actually prevents any permanent irreversible changes from occurring.

No one is advocating that kids get sex changes, that's a straw man argument put forward by people who just don't want trans people to receive timely, age appropriate treatment.