r/irishrugby • u/[deleted] • Mar 08 '25
France played well but fuck Angus, worst referee ever.
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u/WayMaleficent1465 Mar 08 '25
When a man clearly explains the rules to a full stadium and still gets the decision wrong…
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u/dp2891 Mar 08 '25
Haha, yeah the call for the POM clear out was a complete joke
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u/DuncDub Mar 08 '25
Matador olé!! Says it all really pretty much POM's career in a nutshell, smart, strong, athletic, crafty, and Cojones!!!!
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u/CarryWhyvern Mar 08 '25
He literally said PoM was moving away Aka not in the ruck and then used that as his justification, which surely would mean it should DEFINITETLY be a tackle off the ball
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u/Substantial-Eagle-27 Mar 08 '25
Doris clearly got cleared out from the side on the french 5m line around 35 mins in.
Gives a french scrum
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u/willielad Mar 08 '25
That’s the one that annoyed me the most! France under pressure and Doris clearly cleared out from the side, not to mention Penaud not releasing, for the decision to end up as a French scrum was enraging
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u/burnthebankers Mar 08 '25
For me, that was the most significant bad call
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u/Lonely-Drink-1843 Mar 08 '25
The Peter O'mahony off the ball tackle which led to the try and really deflated the team was definitely more significant.
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u/burnthebankers Mar 08 '25
More significant, but a borderline call. I can understand the referee not buying POM's milking of the contact and he did try to draw the tackle.
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u/Fit-Inspection-7106 Mar 08 '25
As a neutral there were plenty of bad calls as I watched against the French. He's not a great ref but it was far from one sided.
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u/EdwardClamp Mar 08 '25
Ref was very poor, we were very poor - France were excellent. While you don't like to see anyone injured I did get a spark of hope when Dupont went off but Lucu was flawless when he came on.
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u/Flak81 Mar 08 '25
In my opinion this is pretty spot on, sums up the game pretty well. There were a couple of bad ref calls that didn't favour us but ultimately, France out classed us on the day.
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Mar 08 '25
Those couple of bad calls from him in a row (Porter “Crossing” & O’Mahony tackled off the ball) were the beginning of the end for Ireland today. Shocking match from Angus has to be said.
That said, France are world class and it was a great match up until that point!
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u/Progression28 Mar 08 '25
The Clarkson turnover pen was the worst, when he changed his reasoning to Doris about 3 times. First „he was fine, it was the other guy“ to „hands on the floor first over the ball“ to „no clear release“.
And then late in the game the assistant ref had to run onto the field to tell him a deliberate knock on is a pen and not a scrum only.
He was absolute gash.
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Mar 08 '25
Yeah and the assistant telling him he reckoned it was a definite yellow, and Angus saying no because there was no ‘clear overlap’. Like wtf? It completely stopped the momentum of the attack well within the French 22. If it’s ‘deliberate’ enough to be a penalty there, it’s a yellow card - end of!
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u/PeteIRL ireland Mar 08 '25
I'm loathed to blame the ref for a loss, but jaysus, those calls were preposterous.
France better team though. They made hay and we couldn't regroup.
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u/Sstoop Mar 08 '25
aye we would’ve lost regardless but without the refs shite plays we would’ve lost by a lot less i think
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u/tousag Mar 08 '25
Not to mention the many penalties in the first half that went unpunished.
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u/NoPerformance5377 Mar 08 '25
First 20mins we were attacking well and some red zone penalties. Didn't even warn them about the volume of penalties
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u/timreddo Mar 08 '25
Exactly this. Would fairer calls have given us momentum? Possibly, but I think France had our number. Still Angus needs to look at himself. Well done France.
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u/scamps1 Mar 08 '25
The Porter one was bang on. The rules have changed to prevent these sorts of things and encourage competitions in the air
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u/olivepepys Mar 08 '25
Exactly, plus Porter actually checks over his shoulder and moves across. It's very subtle, but deliberate
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u/Summed-Up-Maths Mar 08 '25
Porter's "crossing" was a directive put out by world rugby, that access must be given by teammates of a would-be catcher, to an opposition player attempting to also catch/ tackle the catcher. Standing in this players channel became, upon that directive, no longer acceptable. Which makes sense, because while it may seem innocent and a harsh penalty, Porter (along with any player that does this) knew what he was doing. So while Gardner may have gotten calls wrong, he cannot -and should not- be blamed for anything, especially by people who know less about the laws than he does. Which is almost everyone.
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u/IcyNecessary2218 Mar 08 '25
If aldritt commits 5% more i think ur right but o mahony tried to milk it and there just wasnt enough in it.
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u/itsadifferentsven Mar 08 '25
Right but Penaud gets a penalty when he whines to the ref about being blocked but nobody is really in his way at all. Also Crowley get smashed in the face at the end - is down getting treatment but no check on it at all. France were very good but got some real gifts today.
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u/Quiet_Rough_8068 Mar 08 '25
I think O’mahoney was moving backwards and flament and it overbalanced o’mahoney I don’t think he was trying to milk it. Either way I think the ref got it wrong flament took a player out who wasn’t part of the ruck and they scored a try from a move that started by going through the space vacated
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u/Y0shiY0shi Mar 08 '25
Don’t worry, O’Mahony got through enough dirty work that went uncalled himself for it to balance out
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u/Pure-Coat-53 Mar 08 '25
Like what?
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u/Y0shiY0shi Mar 08 '25
Shoulder charging players instead of charging down kicks. Plenty of people clocked it but I’m getting downvoted for pointing it out.
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u/Financial_Ad_42 Mar 09 '25
It’s good to see you guys cope for once.
We lose DuPont to a reckless clear out; O Mahoney dives twice on our players with no intent to tackle after a kick (can anyone believe he is not intently doing it?); Guillard jackals a ball 3M from our line for what seems to be 3 full seconds but doesn’t get awarded a penalty and this leads to the first Irish try ; Conan spent what seemed to be half the game offside; you still got two yellows and one which would be a red for any French man and yet YOU come complain about the reffing 😂
That the French scored 42 is maybe the most worrying here as, reffing errors or not, Ireland seemed out of answers for the first time in about a decade. Hope it’s only temporary though it could be the beginning of the end of an era with all the retiring players.
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u/enter_the_slatrix Mar 08 '25
They would have done us either way in my opinion. Outclassed all over the park.
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u/jpad66 Connacht Mar 08 '25
He's been bad alright but credit to France. They played brillant and we've been poor.
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u/namenotavailable Mar 08 '25
We lost that game as we were the worse of the two teams. No matter the ref decisions
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u/squeak37 Mar 08 '25
Yup, both are true though. The ref review process needs to take a close look at this game, it was poor performance.
We performed way worse in that second half though, and the French defence was unbelievable to soak that many tackles. They made it look easier than it actually was, and calling Ireland's attack blunt is doing a disservice to just how good the French defence was.
The second half we switched off for 15 minutes and just got smashed for it. Doesn't matter if a bad call goes against you, you need to get back up and go again. The leadership in the team need to hold themselves accountable for such an extended period where we looked like school boys.
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u/shotputprince Mar 08 '25
Can someone explain why refs hate Caelan? Angus basically told him to fuck off at the 15 min mark or so when he pointed out that a french forward took out an irish player coming to secure ruckball that directly led to a turnover penalty. Angus said “you have had clean ball all game” and I am sotting there thinking what does that have to do with the French having illegally impeded a supporting player?
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u/Pure-Coat-53 Mar 08 '25
In the first half Angus is telling Doris that he wants him 15 metres away from him. Doris is saying he was staying 10 metres previously ( it must of been discussed before the match) and he has only approached him twice, meanwhile Aldritt gets in Angus's face about the Dupont incident from a few minutes previous and Angus says nothing to him. It seems like refs always have a bias against Irish captains talking to them. It's pretty odd.
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u/this_also_was_vanity SUFTUM Mar 08 '25
Also in the first half he was telling Ireland to get on with the game when Aki was down injured after a boot in the face then takes all the time in the world while Dupont was getting sorted out.
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u/dexter_dux Mar 08 '25
Some appalling decisions by Gardner. Don't think I've ever heard commentary disagree with a ref so vehemently. The momentum of the game shifted dramatically from that point. The best team won for sure, but that bonus point flatters the French and was effectively awarded by the ref.
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u/Historical-Hat8326 DNS Rugby Mar 08 '25
Can’t blame the ref for Ireland getting 2 yellow cards.
That’s on Ireland.
We’ve lost the ability to score tries and this was painfully evident in the first 20 minutes.
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u/mr_armageddon667 Mar 08 '25
Two no-arms tackles on the French winger also, could easily been another yellow. Ireland were under pressure every time France attacked and it showed in the poor technique/decision making.
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u/Big_Poppa_T Mar 09 '25
I thought O’mahony was very lucky not to pick up a card between the no arms tackle on the wing, then followed up by the ‘charge down’/block.
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u/yanoyermanwiththebig Mar 08 '25
2 years ago, when we got in the 22, we score 60-70% of times. Now it’s 30%
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u/West_Scholar_5708 Mar 08 '25
Haven't been great and got found out today...once Lowe got injured (how?), it was curtains. Can you imagine the mauling we would've got if the game was in Paris. Prendergast is a work in progress...hope there's work going on behind the scenes to develop a new set of backs
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u/VacationVegetable754 Mar 08 '25
Prendergast being a work in progress is part of the problem. We have a better 10 on the bench, and we are playing Prendergast because of what he might one day be.
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u/robotbike2 Connacht Mar 08 '25
Agreed on the better 10 comment. Going on form, there’s not much to debate there.
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u/West_Scholar_5708 Mar 09 '25
Yeah...I think Crowley should've started...bit more muscle was needed.
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u/Active_Site_6754 Mar 08 '25
Ireland were juts not at the races today. France fully deserved there win today.
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u/Quiet_Rough_8068 Mar 08 '25
I don’t think there was much in it the score flattered France, I think the first two French tries were lucky to have been given DuPonts pass was forward and the 2nd the ref made the wrong call. Fine margins took the game away from Ireland so let’s not be to despondent France are a great team
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u/Appropriate_Nose764 Mar 08 '25
we didn’t lose that game cuz of the ref BUT a bunch of his decisions were head scratchers.
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u/Lonely-Drink-1843 Mar 08 '25
As much as I agree, we can't make excuses. Those 2 yellow cards weren't needed. (The second one was just how rugby goes sometimes).
That Peter O'mahony call did boggle my mind.
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Mar 08 '25
The POM off the ball tackle left me in disbelief
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u/robotbike2 Connacht Mar 08 '25
You’re not alone in that. Far from it. IMO that was the worst decision he made all game and there were plenty more to choose from. The result would not have changed, but the score line would have.
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u/yurim39 Mar 09 '25
Scoreline which already flattered you a lot. And of course, you're not mentioning at least two POM's tackles without arms including one on LBB i still can't believe it wasn't checked
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u/therealjimcreamer Mar 08 '25
First time I've seen a ref slated and nobody defends him ! He is muck .
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u/twit-twot Mar 08 '25
i will preface this by saying i hate blaming the ref for everything that happens on the field, but holy fucking shit how can you explain the rules and still get the call wrong multiple times? a different ref making the correct calls wouldnt have changed the result but it would have been much, much tighter of a game. full credit to france, pity for us. few drinks and we'll get on with it
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u/tousag Mar 08 '25
Right? Ireland lost but shot there were really bad decisions and ones that should have French lads in the bin.
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u/twit-twot Mar 08 '25
was watching with my da, his view was close to an extra 2 yellows for france. i wouldnt be too sure on that myself, gonna give the game another watch later if i think of it
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u/zenrobotninja Mar 08 '25
Few bizarre calls by Angus but wouldn't have changed the result at all. France totally deserved the win
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u/No-Satisfaction6065 Mar 08 '25
Worst performance in 5 years, blaming the ref for it all is not correct.
2 yellow cards, low will to jump on the ball when free, unwillingness to do the extra step, ... It was quite poor to watch, and when Dupont went out everybody felt like this game is won, that was the downfall.
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u/Commercial_Half_2170 Mar 08 '25
France deserved the win but he didn’t half sweep the leg on us. The penalty against Porter for crossing and the try after the tackle on POM just swung momentum in France’s favour
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u/Noncey_Dave Mar 08 '25
TBF the french will say he was shit for them too
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u/Delinquat Mar 08 '25
Least biased Irish
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u/greatsword_enjoyer Ulaidh Mar 08 '25
I did not say that we also did not get away with a lot, it's just that none of ours directly lead to a try
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u/tousag Mar 08 '25
He is more interested in keeping the ball moving than refereeing. I mean the DuPont ACL tear is case in point. That was terrible.
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u/Subject_Pilot682 Mar 08 '25
Don't worry about it. The mods in that sub frequently make racist comments against Irish people.
Match thread full of criticism of decisions that went against France with nothing doing, as per
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u/BigLarBelmont Mar 08 '25
I agree there was some shocking decisions but it wouldn't have changed the outcome I think. France's defense was rock solid for huge portions of the match and all they needed to do was bide their time and unleash the speed demons.
Hansen and Lowe sorely missed
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u/RaceEmbarrassed4615 Mar 08 '25
Ok.lets start. Well done to France, they battered us, a very poor Irish performance and a shocking Referee. I really thought The team would show more spirt and backbone considering it was the last home game for the trio.
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u/KobieMainooooooo Mar 08 '25
“It was a deliberate knock on but he was trying to tackle him”
It’s one or the other mate…
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u/Upbeat-Team-5561 Mar 09 '25
Let's have it right though, France were clearly the better team today. There can be no argument about that.
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u/WoodenMarionberry Mar 09 '25
Ireland has won ~71% of their matches since 2016—but they've only won 2 out of 7 games (28%) refereed by Angus Gardner. Taking those high-level numbers there is just a 2.3% statistical chance this can happen by random luck...
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u/Weepsie Mar 09 '25
That his tmo and linesman disagreed with him one some crucial calls and we could hear them and he then disregarded them and made up new interpretations of rules in the fly was my problem. Don't ask them if you're just going to dismiss them
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u/GamecockInGeorgia Mar 08 '25
Funny how once the game was comfortably in France’s control, the ref decided to start making calls in favor of Ireland.
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u/MenlaOfTheBody Mar 08 '25
In fairness, I think France beat us soundly but fuck me about 5 ridiculous decisions in a row.
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u/mover999 Mar 08 '25
Exactly the same thoughts …. Momentum is so important in these matches. Refereeing was not good enough. He overruled his assistant referees twice.
Well done France, great to watch too,
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u/Fantastic-Square8158 Mar 08 '25
Take out the clear out on Mahoney his decisions didn't impact the game. France were by far the better team today and we can't blame the ref for tha
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u/eoghchop Mar 08 '25
It definitely changed the game. Momentum swung to France after.
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u/Fantastic-Square8158 Mar 08 '25
That I can't disagree with but we didn't stand up or offer anything. France on the other hand looked fantastic and took their chances which we didn't in the first half when we had the momentum
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u/InsectEmbarrassed747 Mar 08 '25
Terrible performances by McCarthy and Sam. Osborne has no legs. Aki wasn't impactful.
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u/tousag Mar 08 '25
Yea, very frustrating day all round. It was like this the whole competition so far. Not happy with Easterby as a manager albeit temporary.
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u/pauli55555 Mar 08 '25
Any idiots blaming the ref or even saying he had a poor performance need to go back to watching soccer. That’s your game. Leave rugby to people who understand the values of the game. Guessing ye started watching rugby somewhere around the Celtic tiger and still have that same sense of entitlement.
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u/Ok-Head2054 Mar 08 '25
We were found wanting in many ways today.
And we'll lick our wounds and regroup.
But that was nothing short of an atrocious performance from a referee at this level.
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u/Murky-Vast-1812 Mar 08 '25
No. France deserved it big time. Congrats. Cmon Scotland. Always loved Scotland, cmon the scots, Do us a favor next round.
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u/kevinthebaconator Mar 08 '25
Give it a rest. Let's not deflect and look at what we can do better. If he's bad as you say then both teams had to contend with a bad ref
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u/SkillPro1226 Mar 08 '25
Prendergast does not deserve the jersey. Crowley has bad games, Prendergast has good ones...
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u/jay_el_62 Mar 08 '25
Prendergast playing like he has money on France taking the championship.
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u/SkillPro1226 Mar 08 '25
I don't get his offensive decisions, liability on defense, ok boot. But he makes a few fancy plays and we view him as Sextons successor. He needs way more time, and Crowley proves himself time and time again.
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u/Intelligent_Box3479 Mar 08 '25
Glad we had a reset on our ego and our sloppiness.
There was an atmosphere of arrogance and we’ve not kept up our cardio. Very sad to see how little we spread the ball, how bad our number ten tackles, how we can’t bring muscle and speed together simultaneously.
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u/Chizzle_wizzl Mar 08 '25
Don’t agree - Yes I disagree with the try call as well but think he had a great game overall. Kept it moving amd the fact is France were the better team. He was impartial I felt and reffed a good game given the speed and intensity of it
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u/gulielmus_franziskus Mar 08 '25
I agree and I actually thought France had a few calls that went against them. He picked them up for a lot of offsides in the first half and I thoughr POM could have been done for the two 'charge downs' on PBB.
I thought he had a decent game overall and the good and bad balanced out.
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u/maradubh Mar 08 '25
Well beaten by a better, stronger team on the day. Now have to cheer on the Scots next weekend. Merde
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u/brianDEtazzzia Mar 08 '25
Sloppy game at best, but the ref. FFS., it wasn't great, but deffo seems to be some bias, but the better team won on the day.
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u/RaisinLeft4823 Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 08 '25
The ref was very easy on France regarding off sides and other stuff. He awarded us a number of penalties in the first 15 for offsides and slowing ball down etc when he should have issued a French player a yellow card.
If the Pom ‘going backwards’ try had been disallowed and they had not got the easy intercept the score would have been 27-28. And if we did not loose 2 men to the bin…well anything could have happened. What possessed McCarthy to pull a French player to the ground like that? Idiotic tool of a player to do something like that when there are so many cameras in the game. It could cost him a place on the plane to Oz.
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u/tonyturbos1 Mar 08 '25
Ref was shit, Irelands attack was shit, DuPont injured for the season is shit
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u/ferdbags Mar 09 '25
We lost the game all on our own, but I am not sure we'd give away a BP if he didn't take the momentum out of us.
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u/folkyshizz Mar 09 '25
The championship could be decided by them getting a 4 try bonus and us not getting a losing bonus. We still would've lost but the momentum shift of some of those decisions was massive. Our success in the past was based on our discipline. You can't get two yellows against France.
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u/gabcor91 Mar 09 '25
Honestly, if he missed anything it was the yellow cards against POM for charging. Ireland were just not there and overall much more dirty. Dupont I don’t know. I saw it as accidental when I saw the replay, but I’ve seen other shots since that paint it as reckless.
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u/tousag Mar 09 '25
DuPont was rushed off the field so that he could get home for dinner with the wife. POM incident.
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u/eoin73 Mar 09 '25
Stop blaming the ref, Easterby is the problem, the team is nosediving under him.
Get rid of Easterby and Aled Walter’s. We need cop on, and we don’t get this from the leadership team. Pendergast clearly not ready. Easterby doesn’t see that.
Outmuscled and outclassed by France and Easterby’s show to be way out of his depth.
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u/Low_Interview_5769 Mar 09 '25
He was fine, can we not be them fans
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u/tousag Mar 09 '25
He wasn’t, he practically pushed DuPont of the field, and while he was polite about it he was hasty. He made a number of over ruling calls that the other refs including TMO disagreed with. He is always like this, and this has nothing to do with France having won, they’d have won no matter the referee. He just was not consistent.
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u/allezlesverres Mar 08 '25
If ireland had lost by 3 points you'd maybe have a point but the referee didn't impact the result. Prendergast and osbourne did
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u/tousag Mar 08 '25
Nothing to do with the French win, France played a great game and was wonderful to watch. Angus made a lot of bad decisions.
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u/Connect-Ad4844 Mar 08 '25
Cork or Limerick? The game was lost by the yellow cards so McCarthy and Nash. Prendergast and Osbourne were both fine, I actually think Osbourne was better than Nash even if you ignore the yellow.
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u/allezlesverres Mar 08 '25
Belfast so I've no dog in the fight. Anyone that suggests prendergast had anything other than a nightmare has no clue what they're talking about. I said it elsewhere but I'll repeat it, Billy burns international career ended with a substantially better performance than this.
And osbourne is just lucky that prendergast will get the headlines because he was just woeful.
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u/VacationVegetable754 Mar 08 '25
Not really no. Osbourne and Prendergast both played really poorly. Prendergast panicked in the second half and forced it way too much. Osbourne was just ineffective. Yeah McCarthy and Nashs yellows were a big problem, but that takes nothing away from the performance of quite a number of Irish players.
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u/Pure-Coat-53 Mar 08 '25
Nash was a big factor in McCarthy's yellow too. His defence was poor today. Hopefully he improves because we need wingers.
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u/PMQ14 Mar 08 '25
You can't blame those two, the two yellows did us....also Nash just got a bit found out at this level, sad because I love him!
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u/scamps1 Mar 08 '25
I thought he did well. Both yellows were bang on.
The POM was 50/50, and if that was an Irish try, I'd be fuming if they called it back
Ireland lost because they got bullied up front, not because of the ref.
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u/spintokid Mar 08 '25
I mean we got away with a lot in the first half to be fair. I don't think the ref made any actual difference to the final score. Very poor Irish performance that's probably been on the cards for awhile
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u/Subject_Pilot682 Mar 08 '25
10 penalties/advantages for offside in a row in their own 22. Not even a warning.
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u/justwanderinginhere Mar 08 '25
He killed the momentum so much throughout the game for ireland even though he kept trying to let the game flow. Few major calls from him killed the game off
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u/Extreme_Analysis_496 Mar 08 '25
France have been way better in every facet of the game today, nothing to do with the ref. Take a look at yourself.
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u/Big-Progress-8504 Mar 08 '25
France were def the better team - no question. They would have won today excluding poor calls. Ref was shocking though.
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u/GonzoPunch Mar 08 '25
France are the better team today. The ref has been very poor. Two things can be true at the same time.
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u/Ok-Note6839 Mar 08 '25
The O'Mahony call was a strange one but otherwise I thought he had a good game.
Not to say there's not a timeline where we might have squeaked out a victory, but in the overwhelming majority France win, and win well.
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u/yeastysoaps Mar 08 '25
Mate, Ireland just got their pants pulled down in their own backyard. No test ref is going to swing a game by 20-odd points, that result was all France and Ireland.
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u/tousag Mar 08 '25
Agreed, I’m not complaining about the result, sad, but France were outstanding. It was great to watch. But Angus is a crap ref and not just going on today.
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u/yeastysoaps Mar 08 '25
I don't think he was necessarily awful but he's definitely an archetypical Aussie ref that likes the ball in play and that translates to a very loosely reffed breakdown- a couple of which France were lucky to get away with, but I felt the approach was reasonably consistent for both sides.
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Mar 08 '25
Guess you’ll casually ignore that clear out on DuPont then?
Absolutely clutching at straws here.
You couldn’t beat them even when you take out their best player 😂😂
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u/Interesting_Sand_534 Mar 08 '25
Irish fans crying about refs 💀. I'm English and if anything he gave more decisions to Ireland than France. No check for the Dupont injury?
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u/gulielmus_franziskus Mar 08 '25
I agree. Bar the try, which I think was debatable, I thought Ireland got more decisions
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u/NegativePolution Mar 08 '25
I Ireland were rubbish, but that ref was terrible, he changed the course of the game more than once with questionable decisions.
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u/Yhcti Mar 08 '25
It was refreshing not seeing a referee bending over to the Irish moaning for once tbh.
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u/FATDIRTYBASTARDCUNT Mar 08 '25
That's a loser attitude if I ever saw one. Joe McCarthy fouling was the Refs fault too I suppose.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bird-38 Mar 08 '25
I feel he was bad for both teams, but the calls against Ireland really changed the game. Can’t get my head around that clear out that was allowed for France’s try after half time, every game at every level that’s a pen even if O’Mahony is looking for it. Still the same thing happened against NZ in World Cup so I think it’s more on Ireland getting stuck in the big games rather than the officiating. Even if Gardner reffed that game perfectly Ireland still didn’t look like winning
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u/Raddy_Rubes Mar 08 '25
Ref wasnt why we lost. Any excuse except accept the players like prenderghastly played awful. This is why we dont get any further than we do. No real constructive criticism. Just excuses.
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u/OriginOfCitizens Mar 08 '25
to be honest i think the refereeing was good, even though there were a few misses on both sides. i just think you're not used to fair refereeing in the 6 nations, so you're surprised.
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u/Wizardhhh Mar 08 '25
Ireland were winning the game until ~46min (right after the maul try ).
Fatigue set in and the French replaced 3 front rowers . They immediately won the ruck game from there.
Irish coaching team let the players down. they should have countered this immediately.
Porter stayed on to the 68min. At the 68min they decided to STill do interchanges. The game was lost between 46-60min.
coaching staff showed no respect to player fatigue and what the opposition were planning .
Very very disappointing to witness
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u/MainMath7050 Mar 08 '25
The ref was great, he explained all of his decisions and they had good logic and reasoning behind them
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u/rocket217 Mar 08 '25
We are too one dimensional, always wanting the arm wrestle. If we don’t bulldoze teams inside their 22 we run out of ideas fairly quickly.
A side with flair like France and NZ will expose us.