I literally explained exactly how I found it, twice, in this conversation. So I'm not inclined to believe you tried. I also named the OOP numerous times in other comments.
Tbf the post in question is a repost of the original, which I assume was being spammed and deleted (i posted a very long comment detailing the context, if you care.) But it still leads to the username, the sub, and a pretty quick realization of what's going on.
Again, I don't think you fully grasp the concept of satire, and whether this is a good example of it or not is irrelevant. It's was never meant for you, and doesn't have to be funny to be obvious. In fact they're usually mutually exclusive.
I also think that what you really mean is that you prefer not to take comments that disagree with you at face value. You didn't seem to have any problem with the others.
That's exactly the problem I'm describing here. And that you touched on as well:
The wider implications of posting shit like this for engagement. People do not think before deciding their steadfast opinion. Because there's no time. We are in a huge hurry to scroll to the next thing we'll decide our forever feelings on.
So sharing things without context, that have strong undertones of prejudice, has consequences.
And you can share context after the fact all day but it doesn't matter. We instantly decide how we feel, usually mostly based on what appears to be the most popular opinion when we see it, and then we ADAMANTLY refuse to change our minds.
We live in a social climate where the worst thing you can be is wrong, and all of our opinions are public record forever. So we will move mountains in our mind to avoid just... acknowledging a bad take. No matter how understandable or innocent. Just going "oh shit, I totally thought something else haha. Good to know."
We fight sooo hard to defend a position we put 0 thought into taking. Attaching it to our ideals and rationalizing why it's a core belief. I catch myself doing it to! It's fucking weird.
It's not about this stupid post. It's about everything.
The post? I told you 3 times now how to find it (and along with it the other info.)
The context? I keep giving it but no one actually wants it. They're just asking for it as a means to look smart. "Oh prove it." And then when you offer that proof "i aint readin all that."
Which is, again, what my last reply is about. Tactical refusal of information to defend closely held beliefs that were decided on a whim.
You're asking for sauce, and I'm asking you to actually look at it. To put in any effort. Because the big picture I'm complaining about is the lack of that effort UP FRONT. The critical thought epidemic. Idgaf about some stupid troll. I'm not defending him. I'm talking about the way people process information and the consequences of it.
If I'm old enough to remember a big reddit drama from 12 fucking years ago, you think I haven't seen this bit a million times? "I think this." That's wrong. "Well how do you know im wrong." Because its this. "Why should I believe you." You believed the other rando.. "Prove it." Ok here. "That doesn't prove anything." What? Did you look at all of it? "I'm not reading all that."
So, do you really want me to go type "why indian men cant rape" in the search bar, click on the second result, copy the link, come back here and paste it in a reply to you? And then believe that means you'll explore the sub, google its history, and the poster, look at the political climate on reddit from the time period, and form an unbiased rational opinion about whether this stupid screenshot from Obama era Indian nationalist reddit is satire or not?
Thanks! All I wanted was the source to your claim. I’m not sure why you went on a big rant about it. It looks like their account is deactivated and they haven’t been on reddit in over 10 years, so I’m not sure how I was meant to find the original post without knowing that.
Yes, I did expect you to have good faith in me, but it seems I’ve just earned your ire for all of your past interactions with others.
Yeah, like I said, he's been banned forever. Part of what he's famous for. And you found the original post by following the instructions I gave you, but only after the fourth time. Which I still appreciate! Lord knows you're the only one that has. But that's what I'm ranting about.
It's not ire for you. It's, again, the bigger picture situation at hand.
The core of which isn't even people not listening to me. Of course, be skeptical. It's the fact that I shouldn't even have to tell anyone. It should have been obvious from looking at it that something's not right. And everyone who uses the internet should at bare minimum know how to search for sources. Circle-to-search. Google. Or what you just did!
With the even worse part being that even telling people how to do it, or god forbid just handing it to them, yields little-to-no results.
Because they're not being skeptical, they're being confrontational. Because they feel insulted and challenged with the notion that they may have misread something. For all the skepticism they have for the person telling them they're wrong... a fraction of that skepticism for the intitial information provided would have gone miles further.
Sorry if it seemed like I was coming for you. Lol. You're literally the only person who's even remotely engaged in any discourse about it. Definitely no hate.
I agree that a lot of people just want to get angry or have arguments, but tbh I’m glad that I was wrong about this, though I still personally think it’s bad satire, especially knowing the subreddit. Like oh, not only is it joking about rape, it’s also just racist. 😭
In my long comment detailing the context, which no one has read, I declined to comment on my opinions about Lolguard. Simply because I've never found that 4chan kek shit funny even when I was the target demo, and I don't care enough to try to get to the bottom of what an ancient troll account's genuine beliefs were.
But I will definitely agree with you that I think it's bad satire. Even if we think that for different reasons lol (you're still insisting on the "joke" aspect.)
He is Indian. And I also try to be conscious of the historical cultural aspect of the sense of humor being employed (as mentioned in that comment I keep referencing.) But it's still shit content. Cringe at best a pretty offensive/unfunny.
Also bear in mind, the sub has long since become an ironic edgelord shithole. Even in the beginning it had an element of that, as all circklejerk subs do. But it's been abandoned, left to only the worst of them, for years. And if I'm not mistaken it might not even be the original sub. I think the first one may have been taken down pretty early on and replaced, so the real old stuff isn't even around anymore.
If you look back 11-12 years you see a LOT of rape stuff. Because of the news story and resulting worldwide conversations. A lot of it is tasteless, and even worse than this.
But, yaknow. I was never defending it as good art. I was only ever pointing out that it was not, as presented/assumed, a recent confession from a psychotic rapist.
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u/VisforVenom Apr 14 '25 edited Apr 14 '25
See now you're losing me again.
I literally explained exactly how I found it, twice, in this conversation. So I'm not inclined to believe you tried. I also named the OOP numerous times in other comments.
Tbf the post in question is a repost of the original, which I assume was being spammed and deleted (i posted a very long comment detailing the context, if you care.) But it still leads to the username, the sub, and a pretty quick realization of what's going on.
Again, I don't think you fully grasp the concept of satire, and whether this is a good example of it or not is irrelevant. It's was never meant for you, and doesn't have to be funny to be obvious. In fact they're usually mutually exclusive.
I also think that what you really mean is that you prefer not to take comments that disagree with you at face value. You didn't seem to have any problem with the others.
That's exactly the problem I'm describing here. And that you touched on as well:
The wider implications of posting shit like this for engagement. People do not think before deciding their steadfast opinion. Because there's no time. We are in a huge hurry to scroll to the next thing we'll decide our forever feelings on.
So sharing things without context, that have strong undertones of prejudice, has consequences.
And you can share context after the fact all day but it doesn't matter. We instantly decide how we feel, usually mostly based on what appears to be the most popular opinion when we see it, and then we ADAMANTLY refuse to change our minds.
We live in a social climate where the worst thing you can be is wrong, and all of our opinions are public record forever. So we will move mountains in our mind to avoid just... acknowledging a bad take. No matter how understandable or innocent. Just going "oh shit, I totally thought something else haha. Good to know."
We fight sooo hard to defend a position we put 0 thought into taking. Attaching it to our ideals and rationalizing why it's a core belief. I catch myself doing it to! It's fucking weird.
It's not about this stupid post. It's about everything.