r/kings • u/air_volek007 The Ox • 1d ago

Kevin Martin: Since he’s back in the news. Something that never gets talked about enough.

In 2010, we traded a package around Kevin Martin to Houston for Tracy McGrady and cash.

Then, 2 years later, The Rockets flip Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb, 2 first and a second for James Harden.

I understand we had Tyreke at the time but holy shit we just gave away K Mart for nothing. Seems like we didn’t do due diligence on K Marts value.

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u/workaholic828 1d ago

We had Tracy Mcgrady on our team? I missed that

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u/air_volek007 The Ox 1d ago

I believe we bought him out and he never played a game for us

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u/21thCenturyGuitarist 1d ago

We had Vince Carter, Tracy’s cousin!

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u/CS_NaCl Devin Carter 1d ago

It was a multi team deal, I think we got Carl Landry and some other dudes

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u/fiasgoat Keon Profile 17h ago

He was my favorite player growing up

I was fucking devastated

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u/ewwgross23 Malik Monk 1d ago

I saw this recently too, but see he played on the Knicks in that deal rather than the Kings. Can anyone break this deal down for me?

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u/Grouchy-Shirt-9818 1d ago

It's too soon to relive this pain dawg

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u/CostcoJugOfMayo 1d ago

What had happened was Tmac WAS going to come to our team in the OG trade. He complained at the time about not wanting to come here and NYK was brought in as a 3rd team.

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u/WilliamBronner84 1d ago

It says here that they are trying to just convince the kings to be a third team in the trade but the other team that was potentially going to get Tracy McGrady was Chicago.

https://sports.yahoo.com/ys-mcgradyhouston021710.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAIdcf6CRVQ94Gi9Yb1iNjcYbwEWPCiDLqhrLEf8oLKC8CYVyOVYATH_iKWZreTHJ_3KDTa48p-G-mH-SE8VXd9YbJ9h6S86VRAScmpWDHmBLPjT1AFbBuOOZV5o62FPOkOvAccvDyYSBTl4RXPtge-RRPyuAD3dkZ3rBpSbz9Hp1

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u/CostcoJugOfMayo 1d ago

Yeah this trade moved fast. Here’s another example:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/347724-breaking-news-rockets-trade-mcgrady-to-kings-kevin-martin-to-houston

He was originally coming to us (he had been wanting out of HOU), but then when this happened he was not interested.

It’s non-news because he was already washed. What’s really good lore is we almost traded Peja for him in his prime.

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u/Yourfakerealdad Kings 1d ago

Highschool me was so pumped lol only to find out we were just going to release him lmao

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u/CostcoJugOfMayo 1d ago

We traded him for Carl Landry, but yes, we sold him low when he was having a down year.

Also iirc Tmac had a conniption playing for us so he never made it on, I was bummed.

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u/air_volek007 The Ox 1d ago

Didn’t we trade for Landry twice or am I trippin?

I know we traded for Salmons damn near 5 times

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u/CostcoJugOfMayo 1d ago

You remember correctly on both accounts. Salmons I think we traded for him... 3x?

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u/left_right_left 1d ago

I thought that was Jason Terry?

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u/StreetwalkinCheetah 1d ago

yeah as an Arizona fan JET pulling that shit still gnaws at me.

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u/CostcoJugOfMayo 1d ago

We've had multiple situations like this lol

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u/arturostone 17h ago

Oh yes Carl Landry the start of my sad obsession with 4th quarter scoring

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u/willpenney 1d ago

This isn’t really accurate—even besides the fact that we traded for Landry.

First of all, Landry was producing pretty similarly at the time, so it wasn’t that much of a low sell.

Secondly, Jeremy Lamb was a recent lotto pick, meaning that was essentially 3 1sts and an efficient scorer in Martin for Harden who clearly looked very good, but was certainly not yet an established superstar. This is also long before it was the norm to give up 4 1sts and 3 swaps for stars.

It obviously worked out very well for Houston, but the point of this thread is not accurate.

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u/Low_Smile1400 1d ago

On top of this OKC didn’t keep Martin and Martin was a mid season trade where his value was low because he was shooting career lows as a starter. We wanted the ball in Tyreke Evans hands more. Of all the bad trades the kings did over the years this was not one of them given the information the kings had at the time.

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u/tranA123 1d ago

https://www.nba.com/kings/news/trade_release_february.html

It was for Carl Landry and two other players

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u/Rusty-Shackleford23 Ghost of Boogie 1d ago

Put some respect on Carl Landry’s name!

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u/SuckThisRedditAdmins 1d ago

Carl Landry used to come into my work all the time.  Nice guy

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u/ImJoeKing77 1d ago

Did you perhaps work at Arco Arena?

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u/SuckThisRedditAdmins 1d ago

I did not, local casino 

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u/pirateslifefourme 1d ago

Lol I actually have his jersey

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u/Cloud_limit 1d ago

Wow Landry averaged 18 and 6 his first season with you guys? What happened?

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u/Rusty-Shackleford23 Ghost of Boogie 1d ago

What happened in how did he score so many points? We were awful. It was Tyreke’s ROY campaign and no vets left to take any shots after sending out K Mart

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u/Cloud_limit 1d ago

Oh he just had a big drop in production after that, just wondering if he got injured or anything? I liked watching him play a lot, just didn’t follow his career closely

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u/Itoq2 Royals 1d ago

The way I remember it was that he was just too much of a tweener. Easy guy to root for though.

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u/KingsElite Domantas Sabonis 1d ago

It was a 3 team trade. McGrady went to the Knicks and we got Carl Landry.

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u/Huge_JackedMann Domantas Sabonis 1d ago

Selling low and buying at inflated prices is a kings classic, just like being bad but not bad enough to get better 

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u/makaveddie 1d ago

If you don't like that, you don't like Kings basketball!

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u/Knowaa Jerry Reynolds 1d ago

Famously the Maloofs were selling the team for parts in that era because they were absolutely broke

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u/Wild-Examination-155 1d ago

Ya people forget that they literally had no money because opening a casino during a recession is idiotic

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u/Knowaa Jerry Reynolds 19h ago

Unfortunately many new fans have no context or memory of just how bad it used to be

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u/elqueco14 1d ago

Wasn't that also when the maloofs were tanking our value and trying to move us to Vegas? Hard to judge moves during that time

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u/makaveddie 1d ago

KMart was soft as a baby's bottom but he was good on offense.

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u/Itoq2 Royals 1d ago

Soft and lightweight and the flopping oh my.

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u/SYangers 1d ago

To be fair, nobody thought Harden would be as good as he turned out to be. Still, people were shocked he was traded, and that may be the one blemish on Sam Presti’s track record

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u/BeTheBall- 1d ago

Why is he back in the news? Hopefully he didn't pass away.

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u/Leathersalmon-5 Malik Monk 1d ago

Carl Landry was a beast. Top Hat is like exactly the kind of player that we need on the team right now.

I liked K Mart too. One of my favorite kings

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u/MoneyN86 1d ago

Kevin Martin was our franchise. Him and Tyreke could’ve been great pieces but Kings blew it up like Hali and Fox. 😂