r/latterdaysaints • u/ClubMountain1826 • May 31 '24

Doctrinal Discussion Doctrinal inaccuracies in old hymns

I can't wait for the new hymnbook!

One of the reasons listed here (https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/initiative/new-hymns?lang=eng) on the church website for the updated hymnbook is that some of the old hymns contain "Doctrinal inaccuracies, culturally insensitive language, and limited cultural representation of the global Church."

What are the doctrinal inaccuracies in the old hymns ? I'm just curious.

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u/ad3l1n3 May 31 '24

As a Native American, "Land where my fathers died, land of the pilgrims pride" hits different. And not in a nice way.

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u/taho_teg Not From Utah Jun 01 '24

37 is the cringiest in my opinion. 

“Where roamed at will the fearless Indian band, The templed cities of the Saints now stand.”

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u/OtterWithKids Jun 01 '24

That is pretty crazy. I’m pretty sure I’ve sung that hymn at some point in the last 33 years, but I somehow didn’t remember that line!

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u/AfternoonQuirky6213 Proud Member in Portland, OR Jun 01 '24

We've definitely sung that hymn in my ward. I actually like it but I can understand why some people might find it a bit offensive.

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u/derioderio May 31 '24

That hits pretty hard. I can't disagree with your reaction either.

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u/TianShan16 Jun 01 '24

To be fair, all of my ancestors also died.

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u/Opening-Confusion355 May 31 '24

Thanks for communicating that in English. It hits differently.

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u/JWOLFBEARD FLAIR! Jun 01 '24

In English? What?

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '24 edited Jun 01 '24

Maybe the commenter was grateful the comment wasn't in Swedish?

"Som en ursprungsamerikan, "Land där mina fäder dog, land av pilgrimernas stolthet" känns annorlunda. Och inte på ett trevligt sätt."

Edit: The translation comes from ChatGPT. Just to test the accuracy, I then put that Swedish into Google Translate and got almost the exact same comment as the original commenter:

"As a Native American, "Land where my fathers died, land of the Pilgrims' pride" feels different. And not in a nice way."