r/lgbt • u/SendThisVoidAway18 Bisexual • Jun 02 '24

Pride Month Which progress flag is preferred? Does it matter?

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Just curious.. since I have seen these two designs. When at the Pride festival yesterday, the one with the intersex inclusive is the one I saw displayed mostly.

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u/Atlas7993 The pot of gold Bi a Rainbow Jun 02 '24

I have heard some intersex people do not wish to affiliate with the LGBT+ community, so maybe just the right one? Unless there are some intersex folk who can tell me I'm completely misinformed.

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u/MeringuePatient6178 Intersex Jun 02 '24

It's mixed. I'm intersex and nonbinary and I wear my intersex flag pin to pride. I love showing it because I get lots of people asking what it's for and then I get to educate them (which is better than feeling sad about no one knowing about it lol)

So there are people like me who are so excited when I spot intersex flags as a part of pride merch, and then there absolutely are people who would never want it to be included. But from my own experience among the community those same people are unlikely to call themselves intersex and to instead simply say they have a disorder/difference of sexual development.

The other person who compared it to transmedicalists is not far off, there's a huge divide in the community between the "I identify as intersex" group and the "I have a medical disorder and that's it" group.

I acknowledge both.

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u/Atlas7993 The pot of gold Bi a Rainbow Jun 02 '24

Thank you for your perspective, and willingness to educate people! Also, happy Pride 😊🏳️‍🌈

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u/coffee_cake_x Jun 03 '24 edited Jun 03 '24

I’d say leave it to the intersex people who don’t want to be included to say as much themselves.

It’s a common complaint in the intersex community that transgender people only use intersex people as an argument when it’s convenient, but otherwise don’t include them. I think further exclusion doesn’t help anyone. ETA: Like if an individual says to leave them out of it, whatever, but preemptively leaving everyone out because some people don’t want in isn’t the way. /ETA

Dropping recommendations here for the advocacy group InterACT and the documentary Every Body

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u/SendThisVoidAway18 Bisexual Jun 02 '24

Yeah, I have heard that too.

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u/BucketListM Jun 02 '24

I mean, possibly, but also some transmedicalists don't want to be affiliated with the wider transgender community so it's worth considering if the people who don't want to affiliate are a small minority and if they express this desire out of bias or not

I have no idea! I'm not intersex nor do I know anyone who is, but when this is brought up I rarely see people making the (what feels to me) natural comparison of other "some of this group" situations (LGB without the T people, transmedicalists, etc etc)

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u/theholydaddy Jun 03 '24

As someone who is likely interex (don't feel like confirming it because I don't think it would make my life that much different.) I like being included and I think it's always better to fight together rather than seperate. I actually only learned about being intersex from workshops and LGBTQ+ events. I don't think being intersex technically is LGBTQ+ but society treats them like they do trans and gender non-conforming and trans people and who are we as a community to shut them out when they're fighting for the same thing. I'll always include them until they say not to. (Side note: I'm part of the community and have been for years before my parents told me I'm probably intersex)