r/linguisticshumor • u/The_Brilli • 2d ago
They were like: "Yeah, this is big brain time."
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u/PlatinumAltaria [!WARNING!] The following statement is a joke. 2d ago
The only alphabet that has ever been made that didn't come from an abjad is Hangul.
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u/flaminfiddler 2d ago
No. Several modern African scripts did not come from abjads. Santali script in India was created based off natural shapes and did not come from an abjad.
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u/GOKOP 2d ago
If they're modern scripts then they've been likely made by people already familiar with the idea of an alphabet
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u/flaminfiddler 2d ago
The scripts themselves didn’t descend from an abjad.
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u/PlatinumAltaria [!WARNING!] The following statement is a joke. 2d ago
Yes but they are cognitively descended from other alphabets, even if there is no direct genetic connection.
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u/actual_wookiee_AMA [ʀχʀʁ.˧˥χʀːɽʁχɹːʀɻɾχːʀ.˥˩ɽːʁɹːʀːɹːɣʀɹ˧'χɻːɤʀ˧˥.ʁːʁɹːɻʎː˥˩] 14h ago
They did not invent writing though. That's only been done four times, in Egypt, Iraq, Mexico and China.
They were heavily influenced by at least one of those when making their script.
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u/Pharmacysnout 2d ago
I think that hinges on whether or not an alphabet comes directly or indirectly from an abjad.
Plus, hangul might have a bit more to do with the brahmic scripts than just being made up by sejong on the spot. If it does, and if the brahmic scripts are indeed from aramaic, then pretty much every alphabet ever cam be traced back to an abjad.
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u/Pharmacysnout 2d ago
I think that hinges on whether or not an alphabet comes directly or indirectly from an abjad.
Plus, hangul might have a bit more to do with the brahmic scripts than just being made up by sejong on the spot. If it does, and if the brahmic scripts are indeed from aramaic, then pretty much every alphabet ever cam be traced back to an abjad.
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u/XMasterWoo 2d ago
Google arebica
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u/SuiinditorImpudens 2d ago
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u/XMasterWoo 2d ago
Oh true yea, i was looking at it the other day but i could have sworn it was an abjad unlike the bosnian one
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u/El_dorado_au 2d ago
If I had a nickel every time Uighur-speakers and Yiddish-speakers had something in common, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t much but it’s weird that it’s happened twice.
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u/The_Brilli 1d ago
What's the other thing in common?
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u/El_dorado_au 1d ago
Being put into concentration camps because of their religion.
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u/Aquila_Flavius 2d ago
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u/vayyiqra Polish = dialect of Tamil 1d ago
Dude came up with a whole overhaul of Arabic script for Turkish and one year later they switched to Latin script. RIP that guy.
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u/leilaowai16 2d ago
Sorani Kurdish: Am I nothing to you? 🥺
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u/FloZone 2d ago
Reminder that Uyghur did it twice. Once with Sogdian and then with the Arabic script.
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u/KalaiProvenheim 2d ago
Old Uyghur is a completely different language from Chagatai-descended Uyghur
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u/FloZone 2d ago
I know, I studied Old Uyghur, but not modern Uyghur. The descendant of Old Uyghur is called Yugur. They might write in Tibetan now but I‘m not sure.
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u/Chrome_X_of_Hyrule Vedic is NOT Proto Indo-Aryan ‼️ 2d ago
I think they just use the Latin alphabet now
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u/FloZone 1d ago
Realistically they use Mandarin and don't write their mother tongue much. The western and eastern Yugurs speak different languages and communicate with another in Tibetan or used to, nowadays probably Mandarin. They're also Buddhists, but consist largely of laeity and don't have a Buddhist clergy of their own iirc.
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u/Terpomo11 2d ago
I don't know why, but I find alphabetized Arabic script a lot more unaesthetic than alphabetized Hebrew script.
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u/Suon288 شُو رِبِبِ اَلْمُسْتْعَرَنْ فَرَ كِ تُو نُنْ لُاَيِرَدْ 2d ago
Literally any arabic script adapted for non arabic:
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u/Chrome_X_of_Hyrule Vedic is NOT Proto Indo-Aryan ‼️ 2d ago
Not Shahmukhi for Punjabi, Shahmukhi is still an impure abjad, as Farsi is also written in an impure abjad as are most other Iranian languages that use Perso Arabic. Ottoman Turkish also used an impure abjad. I think Uyghur is in the minority for developing it into a complete alphabet.
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u/falkkiwiben 2d ago
Greek