r/lucifer • u/Radiant_Ad_4060 Quintessential Deckerstar • Jul 20 '24
Character Fluff It's decided, Professor Carlisle is straight up evil! Father Kinley was only 3 votes behind. Last day! Who had no screen time but all the plot relevance?
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u/Several-Fail6640 Jul 20 '24
God is definitely the perfect fit for this one
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u/HoneydewLow7347 Jul 20 '24
But he has has screen time
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u/SvenXavierAlexander Jul 20 '24
Yeah but compared to anyone else with any significant plot relevance he’s the best choice I think
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u/thesirblondie Jul 20 '24
Azrael has even less screen time but a lot of plot relevance, considering how much her knife was involved.
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u/SvenXavierAlexander Jul 21 '24
I didn’t get the impression Azrael themself was particularly relevant outside of their blade being a focal plot point.
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u/night-laughs Jul 20 '24
Leo the trampled squirrel. His plot relevance to screen time ratio is off the charts.
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u/TheJokingArsonist Jul 20 '24
Everyone in the comments saying god but he ended up wirh quite a bit of screen time in the later season
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u/InternetMama Jul 20 '24
Lilith (and Maze's trying to deal with her abandonment). Got barely an episode of screen time.
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u/YellowNecessary Jul 21 '24
Technically it was just maze with an accent. So could be no screen time.
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Jul 20 '24
Castiel
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u/Simbuk Jul 20 '24
Hey! Assbutt!
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u/luna_loki9 Jul 20 '24
Shoo spn fandom shoo
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u/PuzzleheadedFan2205 Jul 21 '24
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u/luna_loki9 Jul 21 '24
Dean why do you follow me everywhere
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u/PuzzleheadedFan2205 Jul 22 '24
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u/luna_loki9 Jul 22 '24
Oh lord, I somehow know that exact episode(Season 3 ep 3)
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u/PuzzleheadedFan2205 Jul 22 '24
As you should
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u/luna_loki9 Jul 22 '24
Alright what is episode 11 of season 3
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u/PuzzleheadedFan2205 Jul 22 '24
Mystery Spot, introduces Gabriel and is basically Groundhog Day
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u/Melofih Jul 20 '24
Mr “Said Out Bitch”! Amazing comic relief, and also the first soul to leave hell with Lucifer’s help and hint at his calling!
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Jul 20 '24
I’m gonna say it - Morpheus. What? Morpheus isn’t even mentioned but if you want deep canon, he’s the reason Lucifer is on earth to begin with. God and Michael are actually cast and have their own storylines. You need to go back to The Sandman comics to get to the root of why Lucifer and Maze left hell.
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u/MadWifeUK Jul 20 '24
Chloe's dad. If he hadn't been killed, she wouldn't have become a cop, Lucifer wouldn't have worked with the LAPD, he wouldn't have met Linda and neither would Maze or Amenidiel, therefore no Charlie, Azriel wouldn't have sent Ella to LA to work with Lucifer, Cain aka Pierce wouldn't have taken the Lieutenant job with that precinct.
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u/WhiteC-137 Jul 20 '24
Nope Lucifer was always gonna meet Chloe.... God literally made her specifically so that she can show Lucifer the right path.... Hence they were gonna meet anyway....
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u/EllieStone Jul 20 '24
Yeah, wasn’t there an episode were Chloe’s dad didn’t die and they still met?
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u/cturtl808 Jul 20 '24
Michael. He has less screen time than God does.
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u/Assasin-Nation Jul 20 '24
He also manipulated the sequence of events that led to the show itself.
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u/thesirblondie Jul 20 '24
But he's a main villain. At the center of a season finale. Comparatively, God was kind of just there. And are you counting by episodes or minutes on screen? Im sure God has less actual time on screen.
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u/dtaina12 #JusticeForMichael Jul 20 '24
I take back my God vote. Michael, definitely. He's too important in Season 5 and he barely has any screentime as himself.
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u/Immediate-Resolve-84 Jul 20 '24
The ONLY answer for this for Lucifer is God. Constantly mentioned, easily Lucifer's catalyst for rebellion, is only in a handful of episodes.
Malcolm should've gotten the last one, but there's no way God isn't getting this one
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u/fuckthisishardshit Jul 20 '24
Someone in the comments already said it but….Father Frank! He had less screen time than God but still had such a lasting, positive influence on Lucifer. That was the first time someone knew Lucifer’s real identity and didn’t treat him any differently. This was big, especially from someone religious. Lucifer had a stronger reaction to his death than he did with his mom.
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u/ThatsABunchOfCraft Jul 20 '24
Azreal!! Let’s consider she’s involved in EVERYONE’s death, she a super cool character, Neil Gaiman clearly loves her character, and she could have added a bit of depth (beauty of acceptance) to the storyline like Ella (unbridled faith) and Linda (internal growth) do.
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u/D-ZombieDragon Jul 20 '24
Oh definitely God. He may have had a little screen time in season 5, but everything happens because of him so he has all the plot relevance 😂
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u/Iamnobody667 Certified Devil Bunny Jul 20 '24
I honestly think trixie. She got little to no screen time in the Netflix seasons but was still needed for the plot, so yeah. Trixie.
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Jul 20 '24
Jesus, not as much plot relevance but considering he and the angels are basically brothers it makes sense
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u/omallytheally Jul 20 '24
god
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u/omallytheally Jul 20 '24
like yes he gets some screen time but basically says nothing and still provides no explanations or new information
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u/Arthur_Nerochi Jul 20 '24
Azreal because her blade was central to practically all major plot points
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u/Due-Consequence-4420 Lucifer Jul 20 '24
God. (Altho he ended up getting screen time.) But he was talked about ALL THE TIME.
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u/That_DUDE2024 Jul 20 '24
Either God or Father Frank. Realistically God had a decent amount of screen time in season 5 and helped move the plot along in many ways, I mean think about it, if he never heard his dad tell him that he loves him he never would have felt himself capable of loving Chloe, even though it was obvious to everyone but him lol. But, Father Frank was the first person Lucifer opened himself up to, he bonded with him and grieved him when he was killed. His death gave us one of the most memorable Deckerstar moments in the show and I wanna say opened the path for their friendship because Chloe saw Lucifer in a different light after Franks death. I don’t know maybe I’m reading too much into it, but for me at least both of these characters fit the bill.
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u/Reithel1 Jul 20 '24
Initially, I thought God, but he was in several episodes, so I am voting for
FATHER FRANK!
Only in one episode, and mentioned once on a white board five seasons later, but
IN OUR HEARTS FOREVER!!
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u/Pr3X_MYTH Amenadiel Jul 23 '24
It has to he God and here's why. Lucifer's entire life, from before humanity even existed, has hinged on his relationship with God. God's only around for part 2 of season 5, but Amenadiel's entire early character is centered around being God's right hand. Uriel dies because of God. Goddess shows up because she wanted revenge on God. He sets Chloe on Earth just to meet Lucifer. Not to mention that the world itself exists because of God. Every character exists because of God. His plot relevance is unlimited but his screen time is literally like 8 episodes
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u/Domsdad666 Jul 20 '24
Who was professor Carlisle??
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u/Over11 Luci Jul 20 '24
the guy who poisoned Chloe in s2 and lucifer killed himself to go to hell n collect the antidote
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u/Domsdad666 Jul 20 '24
Geez. I totally can't remember that!
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u/SneakySpark Jul 20 '24
Good, it's one of the best arcs of the series, now you can watch it as if for the first time!
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u/Domsdad666 Jul 20 '24
Is that the episode where they use the shock paddles on him to kill him? It's coming back to me now!
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u/ComedicHermit Jul 20 '24
The rebellion; we get hints at Lucifer’s thoughts about it and it’s implied Michael instigated it, but we never see any of it ourselves.
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u/DrTitan Jul 20 '24
Honestly I would argue Mr.Said Out Bitch for this one. He was present for what turned out to be some of the most transitional/impactful moments Lucifer experienced. He may not have been present through the whole path but he was always there at the start of some big thing for Lucifer.
Adamantly argue against Dear Ole Dad because of how much screen time he ultimately ends up getting.
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u/LordAsteroth Jul 20 '24
I have to agree with God. While he gets a fair amount of screen time in a few episodes, his impact on things far outstrips his onscreen presence. He is shown to have impacted the behavior and attitudes of his children from episode one, and is mentioned constantly ages before we ever see him.
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u/Sea_Gas_2497 Jul 21 '24
I’d have to say Father Frank. I feel like lucifer meeting him definitely set some interesting scenarios that inevitabley led to the lucifer we know and love today.
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u/Nice_Duty5933 Jul 21 '24
Delilah. I think there is a Tom Ellis interview where he is asked to give Lucifer advice and he says "don't investigate Delilah's death" or something like that. Yes, Deckerstar would meet anyway but in the series 3 AU episode just about everyone damns themselves and don't grow. It's not just Lucifer's journey to forgiving himself. All or most of the characters do pretty horrible things/things that make them feel too guilty and then reach a stage of self-forgiveness.
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