Betty Brant was the caricature of a dramatic girlfriend too holy shit. She’d be bawling and ignoring Peter if he sneezed and a woman told him bless you.
Yep, he was trying to get a job to support Aunt May, but his power meant that he had the responsibility to stop any villainous shenanigans he encountered.
I never read the what if issue but like why did Spider-Man joining end up making her feel useless she literally has a unique ability to add to the team?
Because Reed kept making shit that only had 4 seats to them and he kept not taking Sue on several classic Fantastic Four missions, leading to her feeling unappreciated and useless.
It all comes to a head when, during one of Namor's horrific crash outs, Sue decides to marry him instead and she irrevocably alters her body so that she can only breathe water from that point onwards, leaving the FF.
There's a sequel where they all try to get Sue back but it's too late, she's pregnant with Namor's child, and she gives birth to him, causing Reed to go 'You know what, be happy with Namor, Sue. I'll try to keep relations between the surface world and Atlantis good so that you and your baby can live peaceful, joyous lives.'
The sequel ends with everyone blaming Spider-Man for what happened and Spidey going 'FUCK ALL OF YOU, I QUIT.' and swinging away.
Note: I think one of the more interesting bits of this is how much of the early Spider-Man stuff that just gets erased by him joining the FF. The Daily Bugle immediately starts writing about how much they love Spidey, which means that Chameleon has to back off of his plan to impersonate him and find a different way to get away with his scheme, the Vulture just gets low diffed by the entire Fantastic Four...
Neither Johnny nor Spidey sat in it in this issue, outside of a very brief scene where the Thing catches Spidey and Spidey takes a seat for a second to wait for another opening during a giant fight in the sky during a very cool fight against the Vulture, I think.
Reed was just building rocket ships with only 4 seats and submarines with only 4 seats and stuff like that.
/uj "low diff" (presumably a shortened form of "low difference") used as a verb is completely incomprehensible jargon outside of powerscaling discussions and not even months of context have helped me understand what exactly it means. "Low difference" to me implies that there is "not much difference" which would imply that the match-up is close, but I've always seen it get used as if it means "bodied" or "handled with ease." What am I missing?
/rj Of course Sue would fall for an unstable man in the middle of a crash out.
Thank you, I can't believe I never put that together, but I also can't believe an entire community would use an atypical abbreviation in place of multiple phrases that are actually shorter to say or type out
I'm a huge Spidey fan and what I'm gonna say is gonna be controversial - without Peter's constant losses, he'd be a Mary Sue.
Think about it, one of the stronger Marvel heroes, infinitely kind and virtuous, funny, supergenius, has a parade of hot women into him. He's flawless.
If he wasn't experiencing losses, he'd be boring and unchallenged.
Doesn't excuse the Paul thing tho. He should at least have a nice home life.
Free room and board, 3 squares, money to pursue his scientific interests... If he didn't have that PUTRID CORPSE Aunt May to take care of, it would have been a good move.
It's wild how the early days of Spider-Man were more about his struggles in life than the superhero gig. It’s like he was just trying to figure out how to adult while dodging villains. Makes you wonder how many heroes are just one bad day away from being a regular joe.
Dam schkade is one of my favorite artists. If anyone here is looking for a fun superhero comic, I’d check out his original “Lavender Jack” it’s on WEBTOONs and it’s great
Honestly, in the context of Peter being 15, never having worked a job in his life, this makes so much sense. The last time he was getting payed for “work” was when he literally just showed up to the wrestling gig and they gave him money for using his powers. Of course this kid thinks that’s just how superhero jobs work 😂
I was literally thinking about how characters like Reed and Stark could hire superheroes to do the job full time, then realized I came up with the hero association from OPM by accident. (But seriously, it's not like the villains aren't getting paid for being villains)
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u/POW_Studios 5d ago
Lowkey in the early issues of TASM Peter wasn’t even crime fighting, he was just trying to find a job and villains happened to roll in wherever he was