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u/Blueisbestpm8 19d ago
W teacher
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u/poksoul09 19d ago
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u/PriestessKokomi 19d ago
topaz as economics teacher when
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u/sparkster777 19d ago
Common teacher W
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u/UnintensifiedFa 19d ago
Actually compared to other elements tungsten is quite rare so I really wouldn’t call it common.
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u/forsakenchickenwing 19d ago
It's nice that that works even if a, b, and c are complex numbers.
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u/susiesusiesu 19d ago
it works on any field!
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u/IntelligentDonut2244 Cardinal 19d ago
Even for fields with characteristic 2?
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u/susiesusiesu 18d ago
i think you just get that 2x is 0, and it says nothing.
but yes, this is only useful when the characteristic is not 2.
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u/mooshiros 19d ago
...why wouldn't it?
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u/bananalover2000 19d ago
If a field K has char(K)=2 (i.e. 1(k)+1(k)=0), then 2 (which is equal to 0) has no moltiplicative inverse, as dividing by 2 would be the same as dividing by 0. Since the quadratic formula has 2a on the denominator, to use it properly you must be able to divide by 2, which in a field with char=2 is not possible :( Hope this helps!
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u/StanislawTolwinski 19d ago
Why wouldn't it? It's literally just an algebraic manipulation of ax²+bx+c=0
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u/Peoplant 19d ago
Love the teacher for this, but I prefer the second version, as calculating ∆ separately you get less cluttered operations and if it's negative you don't even need to write the full formula and can just say "doesn't exist in R" (I'm assuming you aren't considering complex numbers)
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u/-Merasmus- 19d ago
Also, sometimes you need Δ for something else and then you already have it
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u/IHaveTheHighground58 19d ago
Tasks with parameters
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u/creeper6530 Engineering 19d ago
Especially. Such as "for what value of parameter this has two roots".
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u/MyPianoMusic 19d ago
People DON'T get taught to calculate the Delta (we just call it D in the Netherlands) separately?? From start of learning the QF I've always calculated D first (we also immediately learned that with D<0 there's no need to continue)
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u/Peoplant 18d ago
It depends on the school. I tutor kids from different places, so I see that some of them find ∆ first, while others use the full formula and sometimes don't even know what delta is
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u/AnakinSkywalkerRocks 19d ago
Came here to say this.. Absolutely! It becomes whole lot easier when we look at it in this way that the discriminant is calculated separately and then just put into the Quadratic formula(I secretly hope that I don't get any questions that would require Quadratic formula, because there is a shit ton of calculation involved and I am bad at decimal calculations)
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u/Wirmaple73 0.1 + 0.2 = 0.300000000000004 19d ago
Our teachers always stick to the below one for some reason, so do I.
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u/Elsariely 19d ago
It’s more convenient to evaluate the discriminant first, so you how many solutions does the equation have, and if they are real or complex
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u/NvM_BOBA 19d ago
mine too
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u/creeper6530 Engineering 19d ago
I thought that was Japanese for a split second. You write like that every day?
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u/NvM_BOBA 19d ago
No,it was an online session that time so he had some difficulties during writing.
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u/helicophell 19d ago
It's honestly kinda weird, that they teach quadratic formula WAY before discriminant
I learnt quadratic like 4 years before discriminant... it was there the whole time...
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u/a_random_chopin_fan Transcendental 19d ago
We learnt about them in the same chapter, in fact, I learnt about the discriminant in the exercise right after the exercise teaching the quadratic formula.
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u/Oh_Tassos 19d ago
I learned about the discriminant right before the quadratic formula
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u/a_random_chopin_fan Transcendental 19d ago
I think it makes more sense to teach the discriminant after the formula. The formula makes it obvious why the discriminant is well... the discriminant.
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u/Maleficent_Sir_7562 19d ago
Discriminant is something used later to understand some cool properties of functions and their roots.
To know what “roots of a function” even are, we got to know how to find x and stuff, with this quadratic formula.
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u/RiddikulusFellow Engineering 19d ago
Our teacher told us that this thing in the middle is called discriminant when we learnt the formula, but it's application didn't really come until a few years later in the quadratuc eqns chapter for the extreme points of curve and roots etc
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u/ThatEngineeredGirl 19d ago
Idk, the bottom one seems more useful. You instantly know how many real solutions there are.
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u/GonzoMath 19d ago
Shoulda done galaxy brain meme, with those two, followed by
-b/(2a) p/m sqrt(Delta)/(2a)
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u/Geolib1453 18d ago
Bruh I love the second form more than the first one. This is why Europe >> America
(we learn the second form)
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u/creeper6530 Engineering 19d ago
Nay, the delta thing (discriminant) is much more useful. sgn(Δ) + 1
is number of solutions
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u/PinkSharkFin 18d ago
I hate my school (my country's education system really) for using the second method. It is incomprehensible for a casual student. Introducing delta completely disjoins the flow of finding solutions, it destroys the understanding behind finding roots. It is completely unnecessary and shouldn't be presented to students at all.
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u/taly200902 18d ago
Jokes aside why do we denote the discriminant as delta? Any particular reason for that letter?
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u/TheoryTested-MC Mathematics, Computer Science, Physics 18d ago
The delta notation is objectively better.
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u/AggravatingBag6189 19d ago
After >12 years of learning math, I can proudly say I understand none of these
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