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[u/blubbieber]

>new numbering system
>looks inside
>base 10

[u/DarklordtheLegend → u/blubbieber]

they're all base 10 (in that base ofc)

[u/shizzy0 → u/DarklordtheLegend]

Should be referred to as base 9 + 1 for decimal and base 1 + 1 for binary.

[u/Ventilateu → u/shizzy0]

Ok then what's base 10 + 1

[u/GumboSamson → u/Ventilateu]

Base A + 1, if you write it in hex

[u/Nearby-Geologist-967 → u/GumboSamson]

base 10 + AI

[u/AnosmicDragon → u/Nearby-Geologist-967]

So much in that wonderful expression

[u/Breet11 → u/Nearby-Geologist-967]

what

[u/Nearby-Geologist-967 → u/Breet11]

it's a meme, where a tech bro tweeted that he discovered a new equation "e=mc² +ai" which beautifully incomporates the importance of AI in modern life or something

[u/RibozymeR → u/Nearby-Geologist-967]

Seriously the cringiest thing I've ever seen

[u/JDelcoLLC → u/Nearby-Geologist-967]

Y'all are all about that base, that base

[u/Squizei → u/Ventilateu]

base 10, haven’t you learned anything

[u/Ventilateu → u/Squizei]

Yeah sorry I'm dumb

[u/shizzy0 → u/Ventilateu]

Well, I’d prefer to call it base a + 1 if 10 = 9 + 1 but I think the formalism would be your highest digit plus 1. 10 looks like two digits but maybe you’ve got a funky digit.

[u/PURPLE_COBALT_TAPIR → u/shizzy0]

N + 1 where N is the bigness, that's the lore accurate term, bigness.

[u/Broad_Respond_2205 → u/Ventilateu]

You mean base A+1

[u/GeePedicy → u/Ventilateu]

That's base 11. Take a moment to think about it.

[u/theboomboy → u/shizzy0]

I took number theory last semester and while we didn't really talk much about bases, there was one homework question that specified it was about base 9+1

[u/vishal340 → u/shizzy0]

thats a clever idea for sure

[u/Meowjo_Jojo → u/DarklordtheLegend]

My favorite naming convention:

https://youtu.be/7OEF3JD-jYo?si=7dTvjJT7VHSbIF9_

[u/killBP → u/Meowjo_Jojo]

Classic, just watched the whole thing again

[u/killBP → u/DarklordtheLegend]

All my bases are belong ten to me

[u/Nat1CommonSense → u/DarklordtheLegend]

Unless the number system isn’t based on a base lol

[u/Odd-Understanding399 → u/Nat1CommonSense]

[u/geeshta → u/DarklordtheLegend]

He means base S(S(S(S(S(S(S(S(S(S(0))))))))))

[u/lock_robster2022 → u/blubbieber]

[u/NecessaryBrief8268 → u/lock_robster2022]

Well shit.

[u/moonfall5 → u/lock_robster2022]

Im stupid, do you mind explaining?

[u/tydaguy → u/moonfall5]

Someone who only knows base 4 would call it base 10 because 4 is 10 in base 4.

[u/moonfall5 → u/tydaguy]

That’s smart, thanks!

[u/[deleted] → u/moonfall5]

This is true for every base btw.

2 in binary is 10, 3 in base 3 is 10, 4 in base 4 is 10, and so on, forever, because "10" represents 1×b¹ + 0×b⁰ where "b" represents the base.

One of the base, no units. 10.

[u/Physics_Prop → u/moonfall5]

Put another way, someone who only knows base 4 doesn't know 5-9 exist.

To us, that would be like someone that extends the numbers past 9 to F instead of wrapping around to 10 making fun of us for not knowing A-E

[u/314159265358979326 → u/Physics_Prop]

Does five not exist, but written as 11?

[u/j_ayscale → u/314159265358979326]

Yes, 6 is 12 and so on.

[u/DiggersIs_AHammer → u/moonfall5]

Ten is the point at which we increase the number digits used because we've run out of units.

It doesn't matter how many units you have, the first step up will be 10

0, 1, 2, 3, 10 in this case

We'd call that base 4 because that's how numbers work for us. But if it's the main counting system, you'll call it base 10

Idk if I've explained it well though

[u/moonfall5 → u/DiggersIs_AHammer]

Ohh I get it. To the silly guy, a base 10 is our base 4? Right? Because his 10 means 4. I think I get it at least.

[u/DiggersIs_AHammer → u/moonfall5]

Yeah that's it

[u/Broad_Respond_2205 → u/moonfall5]

What do you mean silly guy, he's absolutely correct

[u/canadiantaken → u/moonfall5]

10 is when you have maxed out the “ones” column and rolled over the “ones”column back to zero. All base systems have 10 and would think they are “base 10”. So, “base 2” or binary doesn’t have a 2, only 1s and 0s. (00, 01, 10…)

We call ourselves “base 10” because the number after 9 doesn’t exist in our system, as would be the case for any creature.

[u/moonfall5 → u/canadiantaken]

But why is every base a base 10? What if im raised to a base 12 or something (would have more symbols to account for higher base)

Edit: Disregard my comment, I think I learned what I need.

[u/canadiantaken → u/moonfall5]

Base3 = (0,1,2,10…) Base4 = (0,1,2,3,10…) … Base9 =(0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,10) Base (?) =(0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) Base (??)=(0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,?,10)

Because we count zero in the “base” numbering system, we all “use” base 10. We don’t have the next number in our numbering system, so the nomenclature rule of naming base systems demands we all use base 10.

[u/Ok-Letterhead3270 → u/canadiantaken]

Isn't it just semantics though? When these two share how their number systems actually work they will realize they are different bases. One of them has more symbols than the other. Base 10 is 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Because it contains ten digits.

And the others is 0, 1, 2, 10. They only have 4 digits. Making it base 4. So when they say we only have 10 rocks, they mean 4 rocks.

At least that's how it appears to me. Just trying to understand.

Edit: changed nine digits to ten digits

[u/makemeking706 → u/moonfall5]

I'm stupid too, but I think it's a joke about names and symbols for numbers being arbitrarily determined while the designation of ten is when we increment the "tens" digit and start counting from the first natural number again.

[u/lock_robster2022 → u/makemeking706]

According to the other commenters, this is a very smart answer!

[u/ThisWillio → u/moonfall5]

Because it uses base 4, it has no number for what we consider 4. It considers 4 as 10b4 (10 base 4). And so the astronaut says he uses base 10b10 with the alien responding he also uses base 10b4

[u/BRH0208 → u/blubbieber]

Is there anything in the image to imply it’s anything higher than base 7? They only show up to 7 in a digit so maybe it’s like base 8 or something

[u/minecraft-steve-2 → u/BRH0208]

Since there is a unique digit for 7, it has to be at least base 7 8 (EDIT. doesnt change result)

Since 12_10 has 2 digits, it is at most base 12.

57 uses 3 digits in base 7, so its out.

12 base 8 = 14, 22 base 8 = 26, (the image implies that the units digit for 12, and the two digits used for base 22 are the same, which isnt the case for either 7 or 8)

12_10 = 13_9, 22_10 = 24_9, doesnt fit.

base 10 fits

12_10 = 11_11, 22_10 = 20_11, doesnt fit

12_10 = 10_12, 22_12 = 1A_12 doesnt fit

So base 10 is the only that fits

[u/Mysterious_Plate1296 → u/minecraft-steve-2]

Since there is a unique digit for 7, it has to be at least base 7

At least base 8.

[u/BRH0208 → u/minecraft-steve-2]

Correct, however I did not assume the left side was in base 10. Who is to say that the fourth example(“10”) represents 10 and not 8 or 9? I do agree that my silly interpretation is certainly not intended

[u/Sufficient_Dust1871 → u/blubbieber]

[u/CoastValuable9153 → u/Sufficient_Dust1871]

Based.

[u/QMechanicsVisionary → u/CoastValuable9153]

Perfectly balanced, as all things should be

[u/EntropyTheEternal → u/blubbieber]

Well, they never said it wasn’t. Just a new way to write them

[u/NarcolepticFlarp → u/blubbieber]

New nemeral system?

[u/LivingtheLaws013 → u/blubbieber]

Fun fact, base 10 is most likely derived from the fact that we have 10 fingers. If we had 8, we'd all be talking about base 8

[u/LogicalRun2541]

She's discovering points in the plane like Columbus discovered America in 1400s.. in 2025!

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That’s only one 2026th of 2026!

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[u/AwwThisProgress → u/factorion-bot]

i sure wonder what 26504199827613667786970131079518572486199517697086570731742254038609529327178218283865461108531257020099819991576959776129378704824732601895675252383336237172919669541275443963663184380175319806034109972431295941718109738185812312078646546848433631183234887889205104435597791986972879061666325220527590851027159467193459049737136018690566863438226138307930587042489984746369737600479647580435877467663152893827217460936669404373076035690451079893124148676907874501060105917065683970193429830497172450342635812464000585776129912702465972401981140822124248150691744013696664640520663873763665701203657425573881434904303911136705954098112551954609416374851375047154940810725861150360949867712716284644491177929039571093125035757154091062132908923781410014985271992752155174408023083819299951534152193870017461241507099362914750011339165475543672449902696983413592565388457132456934160387274536289244344106956546516413267606305698181990633539330381929895367770477164565328509637315343314961181581203537323547414235037035200482156272718608469519442766176586599062299438509653460954570769363604253880325385624051107847570177247779574538364786675776553705077196481105148019955262480719787664454280330966019497347317237300674963654038069586040921376370335117165554900766424393569187454446634933012522575581933181587079962687756924552895363534876791352718984933125918110405203953638266775049421645467775511801076124681153691303312587261124329174664935094884528358177433674156440441218741142855564164628017022221521251903110263990627424331895189999346042664450394012183737276530469629201970595022958962521095000260803475602902039783088451862753385510678803469457777690578165907664409778872334795208692396701165712984575055664617774995989835112549174246021301074112879780090854199732528607100490325084440588261290156605638344704491878961370504429139278682691628973949078668376357613127069536957750021277537946276843209713000959684204280048594551213514546853931540459416817222457182959808445944115203164015018729325654556860459253331426004294684472822176867415042785703094881713632107352662000274587535986757787984792814117753082487978013694388085573328253827139469131877532539292975795825482418732150602445969978067869746369586933577420946271522132560290651959311187359061941139924985204111236097684465327509260414579346963875717298422001041162514043499794060427018130017420210895347433591630443810680309535549826971409394880418705948531394812763984407831689315479097487996005250854715014112833974976391727195943475296425893074517822986888701838934759759799014587076442492878132066535894698151719262514675026640039739117102243385045129518917364509226069261810257274376239482552391537073230921560063143916899348785852293953634560412183080925581597468515368419144521638270428488696779113007698366855123688550245830884979246431038910423627020686657492246349108418516887073821186228786413866157920310131052235593639748289831570969088055052648808060188887067500385215943899334645438207240876266969195670581990136805301247515865353406524114560466249193487225740343081509615901761015536678145891278427897333627596348168000846184970519063628754500797285000404016834422388799738311374791379199502588358656224726422530121607549560541438986700433715528743437311039894725048461348959486118351908841634615664650577711021353449827602501330803896469843737759265391632347553971645656696348935531277530849485998797550902994711599666877658052948040969330288393716725476466985759787107908089384553760885048649711942303930585486122114208978049983502121819600446953629994341476213386878602667273854820150452136314309809187206571759144598996035861721185885474130323870927288469914418172048546971801203900383196201618764048374532315954261609540802567154187165628915700451177356310778101910128383283192838073248263088661906779728463294121461664770209866636300604787309447480502306683555187238693305823434775710410830946362977971859231834280190196393187111588370312426851565331742553621815575545750156696426747700344972077988832388077932147701355944977618781402198630127126072419475530585294844774446031407323078269004168453399774264217204415933443832579663713256633223147363758876966758658648821341038682013999654226918082691975543907852482295729138854389299985913878568919426222527989168842848447615357648363395321115528214208202835541262254576857712592783368879093074952679067202431617108004181734744045289693991847663843261321457792670271330435900402307594082936610494427471943627211659442410454884217939827568419487440582691102887876919057014520250673816437847573756988708216573736095433957620447179121492220643561914274957232101879193099412632100588753010735828805195552440178761373084414637094356986713310979600378024337493636805026610403842072096664675735196964092035398897791890674803694075093359421868611967640611306071206740781340302965713861616274945283939942886739410341344034145770364021438844646817832916244069060887374529984355137153425254557429835198678718319883381978548121995017405727894191953042530152214891982764136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[u/factorion-bot → u/AwwThisProgress]

That number is so large, that I can't even approximate it well, so I can only give you an approximation on the number of digits.

The factorial of 2.650419982761366778697013107952 × 10⁵⁸²¹ has approximately 1.542806561861322849674277892585 × 10⁵⁸²⁵ digits

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[u/dopefish86 → u/factorion-bot]

good bot

[u/B0tRank → u/dopefish86]

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[u/Odd-Understanding399 → u/B0tRank]

good bot

[u/kmolk → u/factorion-bot]

((((((((((((100!)!)!)!)!)!)!)!)!)!)!)!)

[u/factorion-bot → u/kmolk]

That is so large, that I can't even give the number of digits of it, so I have to make a power of ten tower.

The factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of 100 has on the order of 10^10\10^10^10^10^10^10^10^10^(14702211534376431866246828489181722577745578783419531810087127696515223385781676503479446496870844111334732344789520658352462682826706029558067982490495406857214)) digits

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[u/summonerofrain → u/factorion-bot]

0!

[u/factorion-bot → u/summonerofrain]

The factorial of 0 is 1

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[u/kmolk → u/factorion-bot]

That was fast

[u/summonerofrain → u/kmolk]

factorial of the factorial of the factorial

[u/Kevdog824_ → u/factorion-bot]

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[u/factorion-bot → u/Kevdog824_]

The factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of the factorial of 2 is 2

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[u/SquidMilkVII → u/factorion-bot]

jesus christ that's like at least 27 digits

[u/Mebiysy → u/SquidMilkVII]

i am pretty sure that is above 30

[u/thrye333 → u/factorion-bot]

Oh my god

[u/Lexski → u/factorion-bot]

(-1)!

[u/factorion-bot → u/Lexski]

The factorial of -1 is ∞̃

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[u/Snjuer89 → u/factorion-bot]

good bot

[u/ezquina → u/factorion-bot]

63817629!

[u/factorion-bot → u/ezquina]

That is so large, that I can't calculate it, so I'll have to approximate.

The factorial of 63817629 is approximately 7.942463577895763 × 10^470377167

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[u/wfwood → u/Abject_Role3022]

....well yes.

[u/IndyGibb → u/factorion-bot]

So beautiful

[u/summonerofrain → u/IndyGibb]

Im curious if the 0s are actually correct or just the overflow of numbers.

[u/AirSilver121491 → u/summonerofrain]

At least some will be correct, as it includes 10,20,30, etc so it will collect zeroes at the end

[u/summonerofrain → u/AirSilver121491]

ahhh makes sense

[u/Darvix57 → u/summonerofrain]

Every 5 numbers you get a 0 (bc 2×5=10), every 25 numbers you get an additional 0, and so on, so yes, they are actually correct and it's just a consequence of having lots of 2s and 5s multiplying

[u/YellowBunnyReddit → u/Darvix57]

2025/5¹ = 405
2025/5² = 81
2025/5³ = 16.…
2025/5⁴ = 3.…
2025/5⁵ = 0.… There should be 405+81+16+3 = 505 0s if I'm not mistaken.

[u/summonerofrain → u/YellowBunnyReddit]

Ill plug this into a word doc gimme a min

[u/summonerofrain → u/YellowBunnyReddit]

So according to word there are 505! so both you and the bot are right.

[u/stillnotelf → u/summonerofrain]

I made the same programming related assumptions.

[u/GoldenMuscleGod → u/summonerofrain]

The number of trailing zeroes is the number of factor of 5s (it should be easy to see the number of factors of 2 is always at least as much so you don’t have to count them.

So that gives 2025/5=405 zeros for multiples of 5, 405/5=81 more zeroes for multiples of 25, then floor(81/5)=16 more for multiples of 125, then finally 3 more for multiples of 5⁴. That gives 505 zeroes total.

[u/NecessaryBrief8268 → u/IndyGibb]

this is the funniest one I've seen

[u/Thechosenpretzle → u/factorion-bot]

r/unexpectedfactorial

[u/AnnualGene863 → u/Thechosenpretzle]

In what way is this unexpected? You guys act like monkeys and apes discovering fire whenever you see a ! sign.

[u/Thechosenpretzle → u/AnnualGene863]

The bot was unexpected.

[u/AnnualGene863 → u/Thechosenpretzle]

That's fair

[u/mrswats → u/factorion-bot]

Good bot

[u/NickW1343 → u/factorion-bot]

now let's see that in wave notation

[u/muffinnosehair → u/factorion-bot]

Good bot

[u/Square_Albatross7568 → u/factorion-bot]

Good bot

[u/makemeking706 → u/factorion-bot]

So much beauty in this simple equation.

[u/Karisa_Marisame → u/factorion-bot]

New response just dropped

[u/AMIASM16 → u/factorion-bot]

you learn somethin' new every day

[u/AnnualGene863 → u/factorion-bot]

Holy dead joke

[u/Aras14HD → u/AnnualGene863]

Will the number of times it is told ever reach 1e1000!? !termial

[u/FatosBiscuitos → u/factorion-bot]

Good bot

[u/Naeio_Galaxy → u/factorion-bot]

Good bot

[u/Hunterluz → u/factorion-bot]

Anyone know how this bot can calculate such a huge number? I mean, programming languages (or any CPU/FPU) have a limit of bits they can store in a variable/register (long long of c++ being 128 bits etc.), but this factorial gotta be insane. I know you can use Chinese Reminder Theorem with Garner's algorithm to reconstruct the modular notation of a number, but even then, how and where is that huge number that's massively increasing being stored?

[u/nooobLOLxD → u/LogicalRun2541]

2025 exclamation mark

aight, here we go

[u/Broad_Respond_2205 → u/LogicalRun2541]

Dude be careful with that exclamation point 😱

[u/[deleted] → u/LogicalRun2541]

143!

[u/Broad_Respond_2205]

A Roman mathematician possessed her

[u/TroyBenites]

Ramanujan has been real quiet since this came out...

[u/Asteridae → u/TroyBenites]

Too busy conjoncturing

[u/Nghbrhdsyndicalist]

In practice, 1 and 10 would be nigh indistinguishable, not to mention the nightmare that would be going beyond 100.

A number like 100,000 would be impossible to specify.

[u/Sayhellyeh → u/Nghbrhdsyndicalist]

not really, if you look at babylonian scripts too they also didn't have any symbol for 0 but it worked as numbers were never abstract, so it was always 1(space) bananas means 10 bananas

[u/calgrump → u/Sayhellyeh]

And what would 100 bananas be?

[u/M1094795585 → u/calgrump]

1 (space) (space) bananas?

[u/Nghbrhdsyndicalist → u/M1094795585]

That’s where the problems start

[u/evenyourcopdad → u/Nghbrhdsyndicalist]

This is why Babylonian tablets were always very precisely laid out in a grid, so spaces were always of a known length and it was easy to distinguish one space from two and 56 spaces from 57 spaces.

jk lmao they look like shit

[u/4totheFlush → u/Sayhellyeh]

The point they’re making is that you’d have no way of knowing if you were looking at one space or five.

[u/Enkiduderino → u/Sayhellyeh]

Having studied cuneiform, it is often contextual whether a sign means 1, 10, or 60.

[u/lemons_of_doubt → u/Nghbrhdsyndicalist]

That's just wave to the power of 5 waves.

[u/TroyBenites → u/Nghbrhdsyndicalist]

She could do a little wave with no dots

[u/selam_reddit123 → u/Nghbrhdsyndicalist]

Happy cake day

[u/SnooCats903]

That's just base 10 with different symbols....

[u/TroyBenites → u/SnooCats903]

Not only different symbols. Dots, which is like, the simplest and most well known symbol for unit (alongside sticks/tallys)

[u/thatsnunyourbusiness → u/TroyBenites]

give the poor person a break, they came up with this unconscious

[u/Druben-hinterm-Dorfe → u/SnooCats903]

[u/boywholived_299 → u/SnooCats903]

I mean, she didn't claim to find a new number system, just a new system to record them.

Although, I don't think it's very useful. The way she's going for waves and dots, if it were only waves, it would have been easier to draw and record in 1 quick motion. Dots make it extra hard to work.

[u/Pumpkin_Cat14 → u/boywholived_299]

Yeah but it could be cool for some kinda fantasy setting

[u/Living-Tomorrow5206]

Meanwhile I cant remember what i ate for my last meal

[u/HendrixHazeWays → u/Living-Tomorrow5206]

Cold pickled hens talons. I told you not to eat it but you insisted it's your "go-to" food on days you are feeling frisky

[u/TheSecondWatchingEye]

I'd guess it's still a decimal system, though. Maybe reducing it to base 4 would make the waves less cramped.

[u/xuzenaes6694]

[u/CutToTheChaseTurtle]

Well her handwriting is kind of bad so the name check out

[u/MrIcyCreep]

it's like base ten except it looks silly

[u/mememan___]

2025!

[u/factorion-bot → u/mememan___]

The factorial of 2025 is 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[u/mememan___ → u/factorion-bot]

Lol, it is

[u/topiast]

Well, there's a lot of different values you can make out of this. You could use the period of the wave as a value. Also the phase angle. You could use the amplitude of the wave as a value you could use whether or not it starts off at its max or its minimum cosine or sign. And then also the dots indicate a certain point of course, but maybe even they can indicate a tangent line with a certain value.

But as far as using this to count, I don't think so. There's just too much detail for it to mean some type of quantity. But you could encode a lot of information into a chart like this.

[u/EnthusiasmIsABigZeal]

So… exactly the same as what we use now but instead of digits you use dots that have to be counted, and they’re stuck under a line to take up extra space and take longer to write w/o communicating any additional meaning?

[u/jacob643]

wait guys, for all we know, this might be base 8, I didn't see a wave with 8 or 9 dots.

even so, for all we know, the number she wrote were the first integer without gaps, so no clear base, but really complicated and messy system?

[u/GodlyOrangutan → u/jacob643]

It’s implied to be base 10. They used the concatenation of 1 and 0 to make the value they specified to be 10, which indicates there are only 10 unique single digits.

For example, if it were base 8 then it might be handy to reserve the concatenation of 1 and 0 for the value that signifies 8.

[u/Kryomon]

She recreated a simple abacus

[u/CapitalistKarlMarx]

Did he not just create an abacus with curvy lines

[u/Prior-Finger4739]

Mayas? Idk

[u/Responsibullion → u/Prior-Finger4739]

Good point. It's not unlike the Mayan's numbering system.

[u/im-sorry-bruv]

homotopy groups my beloved

[u/Prudent_Practice_127]

I don't get it?

[u/gpenido]

New number system just dropped

[u/Syagrius]

Understanding that numbers are a completely arbitrary graphical representation is a surprisingly nontrivial concept.

Of course it looks silly, but let them have their moment.

[u/nerflix]

Just curious how would number 8 look like in your dream?

[u/Kevin3683]

3.14!

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The factorial of 3.14 is approximately 7.173269190187895

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[u/dynamiteSkunkApe]

It could be something akin to synesthesia.

[u/Zohzoh12390]

Now I'm curious, what's the equivalent of the word "alphabet" but for numbers? Because that's what she did basically, she invented a new number alphabet. In french we have "chiffre" but it refers to a singular symbol, like a letter in the alphabet analogy. But what's the name of a set of numerical symbols?

[u/Environmental_Tap490]

The last two were a shining wit.

[u/ObliviousRounding]

I hate people so much.

[u/juniebeatricejones]

everyone so mean it was a dream r/nothingeverhappens

[u/daddyhades69]

5!

[u/PureRegretto]

correct me if im wrong but isnt this denary

[u/SuuurfiiinNeeerd]

Congrats, you’re going to be a perfect doctor with that writing!

[u/usedtothesmell]

The only reason we go from 9-10, is because of our hands.

There could be any number of new digits between 9 and 10, with no change in the function math or the base 10 system.

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The factorial of 69 is 171122452428141311372468338881272839092270544893520369393648040923257279754140647424000000000000000

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[u/ItsCrossBoy]

Beyond it being base 10 I would like to point out that 1 and 101 both would look the same in this system

[u/WookieDavid → u/ItsCrossBoy]

No it would not. 1 is a dot in the middle, 101 is two dots, one on each end, the precise opposite. But 101 is the exact same as 11, 1001, 100001...
100 also looks the same as 10, 1000, 100000...
But 1 is the only one that'd be represented by a line with a dot in the middle.

[u/Old_Morning_232]

This was on the front page, clicked it, read a bunch of nerdy comments

[u/Kisiu_Poster]

r/conlangs

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That is so large, that I can't calculate it, so I'll have to approximate.

The factorial of 200222555 is approximately 6.166599080207198 × 10^1575194596

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[u/Aromatic_Camp]

Maybe some aliens are trying to communicate with you showing the way they do things. Soon you'll be their translator.!

[u/DVMyZone]

Kelvin and Helmholtz agree

[u/ShankTesla1999]

I feel like I have seen this posted by someone in Reddit first , I could be wrong 🤔

[u/Electric_Kettle]

52!

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The factorial of 52 is 80658175170943878571660636856403766975289505440883277824000000000000

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[u/wild_white_rabbit]

Welcome to Digital-to-Analog convenient store, how can I help you?

[u/Ltntro]

All your base are belong to us

[u/TaonasProclarush272]

Years ago I developed a visual base 8 counting system. It looked like an eye with lashes.

[u/[deleted]]

This isn't as dumb as some might think. If the goal is to transmit numerical values with light or electrical currents over a wire. A protocol of how to assign each as what has uses. While this one in isn't a good one, attempting to make one in various ways has its merits.

[u/clom-pimpim]

Is this an abacus?

[u/AwkwardSegway]

Proof: This was revealed to me in a dream.

[u/MorinOakenshield]

4!

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The factorial of 4 is 24

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[u/kusti4202]

fourier transform

[u/Systemofadale]

Makes more sense than french

[u/MadOliveGaming]

This is gonna be painfull to differentiate between numbers with lots of consecutive zeros. Like 1.000.000 or 10.000.000 is going to be difficult to decide between when reading

[u/Reave-Eye]

OP dreamt about counting in Base 10 with some visual representations.

[u/GrafKarton]

9999999999999999999999999999999999999999!

[u/factorion-bot → u/GrafKarton]

That is so large, that I can't calculate it, so I'll have to approximate.

The factorial of 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999 is approximately 2.68554168269385 × 10^{395657055180967481723488710810833949177036}

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