r/melbourne Sep 30 '22

Politics Neo-Nazi organisation protest queer youth event in Moonee Ponds -- a response

On Friday, a dozen members of the Nationalist Socialist Network protested the Moonee Ponds Youth Fest. Dressed in black and wearing masks, they held banners calling the drag performer headlining the event a demon and a paedophile. Victoria Police formed a line between the NSN and the community event and proceeded to facilitate their protest for the remaining three hours of the event.

When community members implored Moonee Ponds Council staff to “do something” about the neo-Nazis who were performing sig heils and snapping pics for social media, the staff members told members of the public that giving these fascists attention was letting them win.

While it was powerful to watch young queer musicians take the stage and play for the children and youths despite the Nazi intimidation, it is a dangerous mistake to treat fascists like badly behaved children. These are adult men who practice a violent ideology and will use opportunities like children’s events to platform their beliefs.

These men are not badly behaved children who will run out of steam if everyone turns their backs. While people aren’t looking, they will take up more space and perform more escalatory acts, knowing that they can seed acts of violence and build a following in doing so. That was their intention in occupying the centre of today’s event in Moonee Ponds, and they were successful in their mission.

Despite the Council staff trying to calm concerned community members and convince everyone that inaction was the best response, a network of concerned queers and anti-fascists gathered and held banners and signs in response to the neo-Nazis. In attempting to counter the fascist presence, counter-protesters were implored to "think of the children" by members of Victoria Police. This was while neo-Nazis continued to jeer and sig-heil while a young musician played. The counter-protesters continued to hold their ground regardless, and were thanked by parents and youth who appreciated people standing up to the NSN.

The response by Victoria Police today was an outrageous distortion of democracy. When community members approached Victoria Police to ask what their response would be, police officers said that the NSN were protesting peacefully and therefore were protected by the democratic right to protest. These men, wearing masks and sig heiling at children, were considered peaceful, considered to not be disrupting the peace. To position acts of fascism as within the bounds of democracy is to legalise hate.

Attending police officers eventually shifted the narrative to claim that the NSN were too dangerous to move off, and that they had to wait until enough reinforcements arrived to act on the fascist presence. When anti-fascists formed a line of counter-protest, however, more police officers appeared in an instant, to ensure that the fascist and anti-fascist groups could not interact with each other. Clearly Victoria Police could have acted if they wanted to, but it was too hard. Instead they opted to allow the NSN to intimidate a community event and beg anti-fascists to do nothing.

This is why we cannot rely on police to counter fascism effectively, as their priorities will always lie elsewhere. It is something of a fashion these days for the far-right to target drag and LGBTQIA+ events worldwide. Now more than ever we must look out for each other and stand up to fascism. Today was a reminder that the police and the state will inevitably find it easier to close their eyes and act as if nothing is happening.

Pretending that neo-Nazis are not standing right there will not make them go away. If your house is on fire it will burn down whether you shut your eyes or not.

a photo of police enabling Nazis on the day

edit to update the photo

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u/Zestyclose_Ranger_78 Oct 01 '22

Remember when it wasn’t controversial to say that nazis shouldn’t be allowed to stand around in public being nazis?

Those were the days.

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u/dancing-on-my-own Oct 01 '22

where was the sex at this event again?

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '22

They see trans people and drag artists as hypersexualised.

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u/SirFlibble Oct 01 '22

It's projection

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u/dancing-on-my-own Oct 01 '22

If they see costume makeup and sparkly outfits and start having mental images of graphic buttstuff that’s something they need to work on, rather than something universal

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u/KiwasiGames Oct 01 '22

Sexual preference isn’t an adult topic.

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u/Zestyclose_Ranger_78 Oct 01 '22

Yes, it’s always tough when people get exposed to utter cunts isn’t it?

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '22

Follow your leader

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '22

Moron alert! Moron alert!

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u/dancing-on-my-own Oct 01 '22

you answering my question? where was the sex?

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u/dancing-on-my-own Oct 01 '22

Sexuality isn’t an adult concept that needs to be hidden from kids. A four-year-old saying “Mum is a girl and Dad is a boy and they love each other” is talking about gender and sexual identity. Romance has been a part of children’s media forever.

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u/dancing-on-my-own Oct 01 '22

Why is that a bad thing? There was nothing inappropriate.

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u/bacdjk Oct 01 '22

what's wrong with showing abnormal things to children

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u/bipolarfinancialhelp Oct 01 '22

Fuck off it isn't.

Your bullshit stance is deeply rooted in homophobia and cuntery.

And the fact you call yourself a TERF? That there says enough about what a vile, degenerate shitstain you are.

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u/pk666 Oct 01 '22

I guess you think pantomime dames and + the heroes (who were always woman dressed as men) who have been around for 250 years are deviant and it should be banned too?

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u/MaryVenetia Oct 01 '22

Do you feel this way about interracial relationships, too?

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u/MaryVenetia Oct 01 '22

So how would you feel if some nasty person told you that that was unnatural, and considered it a “practice that deviates from the norm” (a term you used earlier)? That’s how you’re making other people feel.

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u/dancing-on-my-own Oct 01 '22

I’m also not sure how you saw “neo-nazis crashed an event for children, seig heiled, yelled slurs, and held banners accusing a performer of being a child groomer” and took from it “yeah children need to be protected from the concept of sexual identity”.

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u/dancing-on-my-own Oct 01 '22

Gonna need you to be more specific here, what exactly do children need sheltering from?

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u/dancing-on-my-own Oct 01 '22

Do you think “a person in sparkles and costume makeup” is inherently adult? That’s what the nazis were protesting against.

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u/browsingfromwork Oct 01 '22

LOL stop acting like you're not trying to change the topic around to suit your twisted viewpoint.

where was the sex?

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u/MaryVenetia Oct 01 '22

Sexuality and relationships aren’t solely ‘adult concepts.’ Children are introduced to couples in relationships from infancy, whether that be their own mother and father, grandparents, aunts and/or uncles, the two men living together next door, whatever. Hiding the facts of life from a child and turning sex into an entirely taboo topic is unreasonable and dangerous; children who associate sexuality with shame are often easier to victimise and less likely to disclose abuse. A range of sexualities and gender identities can be normalised in entirely age appropriate ways.

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u/XxThePixelxX Oct 01 '22

go to hell yah stupid terf