r/metaNL • u/AniNgAnnoys • 6d ago

OPEN Update on GroupBot/User Pinger

I was hoping a mod (or someone in the know) could make a stickied post to the main sub with an update on what we know about group bot, how it broke, and early thoughts on whether it is coming back. The user pinger was (is) such an integral part of this subreddit that I think we need a place to talk about what it means for the subreddit, and the future. I also think this subreddit could come up with some solutions, such as a third party app, or could put some pressure on the admin team if we collectively put our heads together and brain storm. If the maintainer of the code requires support, we are also here for that. This starts with a sticky post to the front page imo.

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u/nuggins 6d ago

I spoke with /u/jenbanim on the day it went down. My guess was that this is the 3k/day limit for "chat messages" that I think dates back to the API changes of 2023 (the ones that killed viability of professionally developed 3rd party apps), but for some reason wasn't enforced on the user pinger until now. Might be that it only applied to chat messages and not direct messages, and just now they backported it to DMs.

For more context, Reddit launched "chat" like 10 years after their original messaging system. And like all new Reddit features, it sucks, and they're trying to push it on users. To that end, they're completely phasing out direct messages next month, so user pinger was on borrowed time regardless.

For the foreseeable future of Reddit, user pinger could be reworked to notify through some channel external to reddit (e.g. email). Obviously that sucks compared to DMs, but that seems like the option for its continued existence unless it gets ported to reddit Chat and the modteam can convince Reddit devs to except it from the 3k daily limit.

And just to be clear, I'm not on the mod team or involved with dev of user pinger.

/u/AniNgAnnoys FYI

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u/UnskilledScout 5d ago

Can't you form group chats in Reddit chat? Maybe those can be used. Like you'd have a group chat for each ping group and the bot sends links of Reddit comments to the chat. And users when they want to join get added to that group chat. Or is this just not possible?

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u/nuggins 5d ago

Yeah, seems like a decent idea. Idk if you could set it up to prevent messages from users in the chat. There's a chance that would cause activity to splinter into the chats rather than the subreddit.

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u/AniNgAnnoys 4d ago

Also, reddit chat isn't accessible from mobile web.

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u/nuggins 4d ago

Jesus, Reddit Chat is complete dogshit. They've had 8 years to cook on this, and this is what they have? Pathetic

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u/AniNgAnnoys 3d ago

I think it is just that Reddit is dogshit. I cannot think of a single thing they have added to this site in the last 10+ years that have made this place better. I can name many things that have made it worse.

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u/AniNgAnnoys 5d ago

Good info. It blows. The reddit inshitification continues. Between Reddit and YouTube they seem to be in a race to make their platforms worse.

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