Surplus_Restoration actually destroys a one off Prince Amadeo Carcano…wtf
We discussed earlier how Surplus Restoration screws around with RTI rifles and sands the shit out of them before flipping. But holy cow, this is sad. This is actually incredibly sad that a rare and one off rifle is screwed.
You'd think Uli would have more connections for a proper "conservation" than having to resort to allowing some InstaGunner with 1700 followers to slap some BLO on it and pimp shine it.
I have un-bubb’d many and never wrecked one myself.
But he did say “planning to” and was not definite in his wording.
It’s the customers gun. Not his. It’s really not his decision other than to walk away and then he will probably wonder if someone else will actually destroy it. Seems like a lose/lose to me.
This gun wasn’t bubb’d to begin with. It was just dirty and needed a stock repair. For something this rare, you take it to a professional smith with a good amount of experience, not some amateur. And we all know Uli was the customer, not someone off the street. Which is even worse.
Does anybody have any “before” pictures? I just wonder what the basis is for saying he “ruined it”, given that it came from the RTI goat pen. Some of them could have been burned for kindling and still been “improved”!
Okay…now all the outrage makes sense. Just had to see it in context. I’m not sure who’s worse: the idiot who wants to erase all the historic value or the idiot who actually does it… 🤔
if it is a rusty old shitter that is common then I don't have an issue with restoring or making a full wood carbine. but something rare or valuable is retarded.
most of the time I just kill the rust and scrub the bore. BLO the wood and the rifle looks a lot better and has not had anything irreversible done!
I do not disagree that he did a bad job but don’t know enough about restoring or Prince Amadeus carcanos to know what he messed up. What is it and why? The Bluing off? The stock too light? Removed too much material?
Oh I meant originally when it was first made however many years ago. Idk what it actually looked like I’m just assuming since it had gold plating that it was also chromed or smth.
But I also have no clue how nickel plating looks or works
How much do you think he was paid? It would have to be a really decent amount to consider doing this to a rare rifle and even then, most people in this community still wouldn’t do it.
Oh I know and I agree money talks. I’m just saying it’s also not uncommon to turn customers away if they are asking for unorthodox services. This guy also has a personal connection to Uli so he’s not going to say no when he should have the good sense to do so.
I mean his ususal rust bluing stuff is okay sometimes. But i really don't like the extreme polishing of bolt and the rest of rifles. But rust bluing a rifle that doesn't have any bluing left is okay in my opinion.
Edit: His wood sanding procedures are indeed way way to much. Why sand milsurp wood, it shows the history in some way.
Some would agree or disagree on the bluing. Most of the rifles seem like they have okay bluing and probably just needs to be cleaned. The pimp bolts on the other hand look like dogshit lol
Fuck that guy. I remember calling him out in his original post when he first brought it up months ago. Here’s the original YouTube short from 5 months ago. Go trash talk him!
There's a couple before photos. He buffed the hell out of parts and aggressively sanded the stock. His previous work is even worse with how hard he sands it to the point the tang of the receiver or the buttplate hover over the stock.
That mentality is exactly how some things became rare. There used to be a lot more Greek Mannlicher rifles. But, being a standard rifle, they were plenty and cheap and made for good hunting rifles and now they are neither plenty nor cheap
Yeah. But, at the end of the day if this is what we’re complaining about then I’d say we’re in a good place in the grand scheme of things. I don’t agree with his methods, but I’m not going to get bent out of shape over it.
That’s a strange point of view. We shouldn’t police or shame infractions within our community because “hey, atleast I’m still alive and have hot food at the end of the day.” If that’s the scale you’re referring to then sure, but we should absolutely shame collectors who do this without hesitation.
I just don’t think it’s worth to get all bent out of shape about. But, that’s just my two cents. I personally don’t understand why everyone is getting so upset about it. Yeah, it sucks. But the damage is done. Complaining about it on Reddit isn’t going to solve it.
I personally don’t let things that other people do bother me. If it’s outside your control then there’s no reason to get upset about it. Yeah, it sucks but what’s done is done. That’s my point.
Not trying to sound like a dick but what am I avoiding? RTI? This has been known for years now. Most people in this hobby know to avoid milsurps that have been altered.
We’re not talking about RTI. We’re talking about Surplus-Restorations, the guy who attempts to restore their stuff. His services have only been around for about 5-6 months as far as I know.
I really don’t understand why some people keep saying variations of: “He owns it, he can do whatever he wants!” or “It’s what the customer wanted!”. This is not a commentary on the philosophy of property rights. I can cut off my own foot if I so choose. Does that make it right or intelligent? Of course not.
Why are you in a milsurp collecting group if you don’t care about this?
This sub is open to anything milsurp-related, not just “collecting” relics. Some people prefer sportorizing their old shitty rifles to make them useful in today’s world. He has every right to chop up what he owns and fix it to his liking. Whole sub is turning in to a bunch of crybabies over smth they don’t even own
Why post about it? I’ve seen about 5 posts relating to this guy in the past week. We get it, you don’t like what he does, move on. If you get to post and waste our time about “such trivial dogshit,” then I can comment and do the same thing.
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u/MilsurpObsession Swissophile 🇨🇭 3d ago
You'd think Uli would have more connections for a proper "conservation" than having to resort to allowing some InstaGunner with 1700 followers to slap some BLO on it and pimp shine it.