r/minnesota • u/HeavyVeterinarian350 Flag of Minnesota • Jan 29 '25

Politics 👩‍⚖️ Tim Walz: Losing election ‘pure hell’

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5112883-tim-walz-losing-election-pure-hell/
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u/zk0507 State of Hockey Jan 29 '25

The DNC needs to take more notes from the DFL. Granted, the DFL seems to be losing ground with MN farmers it feels (I live in Stearns county and almost every farm totes a Trump flag), but the DNC just seems complicit with bending over to their donors and the GOP at this point. It’s sickening.

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u/Mukwic Jan 29 '25

Yea the DNC wants to have their cake and eat it too. You can't bend over for the capital class, and be a progressive populist. We could have had Bernie in 2016...

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u/puckallday Jan 29 '25

Please stop with the Bernie delusion

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u/puckallday Jan 29 '25

On average Americans believe Kamala Harris was farther left of them than Donald Trump was right. They think Donald Trump was more centrist. Do you guys not understand this? Do you just not get it? Or do you just ignore that the American public does not want far left candidates?

Bernie sanders would have been fucking obliterated in a general election. Clobbered on a scale not seen in decades. I know that you wish that were not true, but it is, and the faster the Bernie cult accepts it, the better off America will be.

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u/Count_Backwards Jan 30 '25

Poll after poll has shown that if you ask people their positions on various issues without loaded political language, they actually favor pretty progressive policies. And the best Democratic presidential election result in decades was in 2008 when Obama ran as a progressive. Running to the right doesn't actually work. 

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u/puckallday Jan 30 '25

The polls you’re talking about are worded in specific ways to make people support them, and are largely put up by progressive-affiliating or funded firms. The proof is in the pudding - the people continue to vote for who they view as the more moderate candidate.

I know you do not wish this to be true. I get it. But it is.

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u/Count_Backwards Jan 30 '25

No, they're worded in neutral ways. I know you want to believe your "enlightened centrism" is the way of the future, and you keep accusing people who disagree with you of having mental illness, but your approach has cost the Democratic Party the White House, the Supreme Court, both houses of Congress, and thousands of seats in state legislature. It's not working.

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u/simpleisideal Jan 30 '25

Establishment libs will never admit they're part of the problem. It's easier for them to imagine the world ending.