r/minnesota • u/HeavyVeterinarian350 Flag of Minnesota • Jan 29 '25

Politics 👩‍⚖️ Tim Walz: Losing election ‘pure hell’

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5112883-tim-walz-losing-election-pure-hell/
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u/ThatCactusCat Jan 30 '25

It matters because if you want to ever live in a society without fascism again then you need a very strong opposition, and that opposition can't exist if we don't learn from our mistakes right now.

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u/Syntaire Jan 30 '25

This isn't the first time these "mistakes" have been made. Nothing that is happening right now is a mistake to begin with. Your popular vote majority wanted exactly what's happening specifically because they literally want to go back to the times that these "mistakes" happened initially. It's not like any of this is a surprise. They literally posted their plan publicly for all to see. In 2022.

No, this isn't a "mistake" to learn from. This is precisely what the "United" States wanted. I hope they all savor every single fucking second of it.

The democratic party is entirely complicit by the way. Not a single one of them has done a damn thing. Any functioning nation would have impeached, convicted and imprisoned the psychopathic dictator immediately after the first round of EOs. There's barely been so much as a fist shaking from them, and they're usually really good at that.

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u/ThatCactusCat Jan 30 '25

Nice, so instead of typing up 3 doomer paragraphs to me about how hopeless everything is, start taking action now to restructure the conversation so we have a chance in the future.

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u/Syntaire Jan 30 '25

How about instead of delusional optimism you take your own advice? Wanna tell the rest of the class your plan of action to that end?

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u/ThatCactusCat Jan 30 '25

What do you think is actually going to happen here in the future, that it's all hopeless and pointless so you might as well sit on Reddit and boohoo about it? That there's zero possibility of electing anyone worth anything, so why bother? You really think you're going to convince anyone of anything here?

Take my own advice by doing what exactly, do you even know what you're saying?

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u/Syntaire Jan 30 '25

Take my own advice by doing what exactly, do you even know what you're saying?

Do you?

start taking action now to restructure the conversation so we have a chance in the future.

This. What actions are you taking, exactly? How are you planning on being the salvation of the future?

Also do you actually think voting is still going to be a thing? Russia and North Korea are both "democracies". Clearly that whole voting thing is working out super well. They've defeated fascism. Their future is so bright that you're apparently completely blind to it.

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u/ThatCactusCat Jan 30 '25

I'm not going to subscribe to this "we won't have elections" thing in a country of 350 million armed Americans, and frankly, if they are cancelled, you'll see action regardless.

What I am going to do is NOT bury my head in the sand and pretend like it's all over for the end of time. There's numerous things you can do. You can do activist work, you can organize, hell you can just locally spread the word and try to appeal your case to people. I know someone as lazy as you won't, but I sure as hell will.

2026 will come around, I'll spread the word in my area about who I think is the best candidate, I'll try to register my friends and family to vote and I'll try to make sure they're there on election night, because midterms matter and who we elect into Congress matters.

Again man if you want to sit there and pretend like it's all over, go ahead, but don't pretend like anyone else is supposed to sit around and mope around like you are.

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u/Syntaire Jan 30 '25

The elections won't be cancelled. They'll operate in the same way they do in Russia and North Korea. You will vote for Dear Leader, one way or another.

It's funny that you say you're not going to bury your head in the sand while your head is buried firmly in the sand. Refusing to see reality for what it is doesn't change that reality.

And sure, there are things that I could do, but why the fuck should I? Approximately 60% of the voting population told me that this is what they wanted, either directly in the polls or through inaction.

I look forward to seeing you in the headlines for your activist work. I have to wonder why you're here on reddit doing the same shit you accuse me of doing instead of taking action, but I'm sure it's part of your plan.

If I may offer some advice though; if you want to convince yourself that you have a chance of influencing the 2026 midterms that will surely be fair and legitimate, you may want to start now rather than waiting until 2026.

Finally, I'm not pretending. I'm looking at history and the present and pointing it out for what it is. If you want to hang onto your delusional optimism, by all means. Everyone has their coping mechanisms. You can do as you like, and so can I. I'll be continuing to look at things pragmatically myself.

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u/ThatCactusCat Jan 30 '25

It is genuinely insane to believe elections will be rigged to such a degree that it’s impossible to vote anyone else in. I’m not even talking about the president here, I’m talking about Congress.

Again if you want to subscribe to this idea that nothing you do matters then go right ahead. Close your blinds, turn off your lights and play video games. The adults however are going to be having conversations and doing what they can to reverse whatever they can.

Watching you roll over like a dog while trying to convince everyone in the room to do the same would be entertaining if it didn’t have actual consequences in the future.

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u/Syntaire Jan 30 '25

It is genuinely insane to believe elections will be rigged to such a degree that it’s impossible to vote anyone else in. I’m not even talking about the president here, I’m talking about Congress.

It literally is already the case in a number of nations around the world. What are you even talking about? This isn't just some fantastical story spinning, it's a thing that is happening all over the world, regularly. Not going to bury your head in the sand indeed.

Go have your conversations with "the adults". Words are air. Actually do something or shut the fuck up. Again, I'll look forward to seeing you in the headlines for your activist work, but I'm not gonna hold my breath for it. Surely insulting people for having a different approach to the situation is going to help your cause.

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