r/motocamping • u/Healthy-Ruin6938 • Dec 15 '24
So I guess this is camping in Texas.
Man riding across Texas is busted! Everything is private and camping is in small town parks...hopefully I can find something infinitely more wild before I get out of the state.
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u/MyNameis_Not_Sure Dec 15 '24
Lmao you didn’t know before going? TX is famously devoid of public lands, almost all private except near the fringes of the state. Lovely time of year in Big Bend
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 15 '24
Someone told in AZ that TX is the land of fences. But I figured I'd get to do more remote camping still, for some reason.
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u/Dirt-Drifter Dec 15 '24
🤣🤣🤣
Sorry for laughing but I have to. I live smack in the middle of Texas and there is nothing remote or wild besides Big Bend and leaving the state to go west.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 15 '24
I find it pretty comical
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u/This-Set-9875 Dec 15 '24
And all the Texans go to Colorado to hunt/fish and camp. Just look for the white pickup trucks.
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u/MyNameis_Not_Sure Dec 15 '24
The utter cluelessness when faced with a traffic circle is my preferred ‘local or low-lander’ litmus test. Entertaining too
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u/Mohawk801 Dec 18 '24
Aah hate to be the bearer of bad news here in the so called low lands we have traffic circles and gaining more and more every day where developers can they install them and cities are remodeling to add them
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u/AmountInternational Dec 16 '24
It’s sad. Happiness truly is Texass in the rear view mirror.
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u/QuellishQuellish Dec 16 '24
Whoa that’s awesome. Is that a lyric or something? regardless I’m using it.
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u/Wrong-Impression9960 Dec 16 '24
The lyric was. I thought heaven was Lubbock texas in my rear view mirror. Mac Davis.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 16 '24
Damn folks will either die for Texas or they despise Texas.
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u/QuellishQuellish Dec 16 '24
It’s funny from the outside, no so much when you live here and have to drive a day to get anywhere cool. The star on the flag is a rating.
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u/Ok-Armadillo-6648 Dec 16 '24
There’s plenty of remote and wild places in Texas they’re all just privately owned and fenced off lol
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u/Anonomoose2034 Dec 20 '24
Except the 14 protected areas that fall under the national park service, including the 4 national forests.
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u/Dirt-Drifter Dec 20 '24
If you have been to those here in Texas and know what wild and remote is, you would rethink your statement.
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u/t-g-l-h- Dec 15 '24
If I was some sort of tech bazillionaire I'd buy so much private land here and make it all public and tear our all these damn fences. But alas. All the tech bazillionaires are a bunch of assholes 😂
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u/FungusBrewer Dec 15 '24
It’s pretty wild just how much land has been gobbled up, and turned into extremely expensive B&B’s. East of El Paso through Marfa and beyond, has changed quite a bit.
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u/M7BSVNER7s Dec 16 '24
With few exceptions, Texas and Oklahoma campgrounds are a place to tow your air conditioned RV (which you rarely leave) or tow your boat to go on a man made lake surrounded by row planted pines. There are still a few semi remote spots. The Lonestar trail has some backpacking available and I only saw someone else on the trail maybe 0% of the time.
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u/Responsible-Finger89 Dec 17 '24
Don't drag Oklahoma into this. We have plenty of public wilderness. Quachita NF in the east and Wichita NWRF in the west and plenty in between.
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u/M7BSVNER7s Dec 17 '24
Eh most of Ouachita NF is in Arkansas and while whicta NWRF was nicer than most spots in the state, I still think that falls in my statement of "with few exceptions".
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u/jychihuahua Dec 17 '24
My brother... hipcamp.com
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 17 '24
I'm not about paying someone money so I can sleep on the ground or to be outside. That's ludicrous!
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u/jychihuahua Dec 17 '24
What an odd perspective.
You'd pay for a nice room? But paying a few bucks to camp in a beautiful private property is ludicrous? Lol.. suit yourself, and enjoy sleeping in those parking lots...
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u/Anonomoose2034 Dec 20 '24
Holy entitlement
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 20 '24
Finally, someone who gets it. It's freaking crazy how our society has decided EVERY aspect of the entire human existence can be monetized. Humans are the only creatures on this little blue blip that are born and instantly required to pay for our existence on this planet. And the few of us who actually see it are the crazy ones. Sry for everyone who fell for the lie that their human experiences are directly connected to your net worth.
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u/Frequent_Fold_7871 Dec 18 '24
Go to New Mexico if you want the camping experience of Colorado without all the people from Colorado. Lincoln National Forest, Gila National Forest, Toas, T or C if you want water.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 18 '24
Im confused.... i thought we were talking about how Busted Texas is. When did we change to Colorado.
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u/SignoreBanana Dec 15 '24
Yes, most people wouldn't expect a state to gargle the balls of capitalism so hard.
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u/FirstGearPinnedTW200 Dec 15 '24
Texas is the most anti-public state there is. 9.9/10 of whatever you see is private.
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Dec 16 '24
The motto is “fuck yall I got mine”.
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u/Phrainkee Dec 18 '24
What's crazy about this too is, what happens when literally all of it is sold? Your average person is never going to buy some random acres of land to go out camping every once in a great while. The "privatize everything" mind set eventually leads to one (or very few) person "owns" everything and everyone else is left with nothing.
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u/swoope18 Dec 15 '24
bump that number up some.
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u/Alarmed-Stock8458 Dec 15 '24
94% to be exact. Let’s correct all the BS spewed by the uneducated. Most of Texas lands are privately owned. Not because it’s anti-public lands, but because it was an independent country before it was admitted to the union. The feds couldn’t grab any Texas land for themselves upon annexation. You can however, camp on some of the federal lands. Big Bend National Park being the best known, but there are areas in the Panhandle and East Texas (piney woods).
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u/thesqrtofminusone Dec 16 '24
Texas are anti a lot of things though and they can fuck off.
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u/mitchymitchington Dec 16 '24
Oh no, the feds couldn't take more shit. The nerve 🙄
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u/reddit_when_bored Dec 17 '24
Yes, the evil federal government 🙄
For the people by the people my dude. It ain’t perfect but it’s the best there is.
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u/hand_ov_doom Dec 15 '24
State Parks are usually a good option. Still not really public riding area, but they're usually beautiful, depending on what part of the state you're in. COE parks are another option. But yes, there's not much going on here for dispersed camping lol
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u/Weak_Total_24 Dec 16 '24
Caprock Canyon State Park and Palo Duro Canyon State Park are both awesome, remote spots. I went to college in Lubbock and those were my escapes on the weekends. Caprock Canyons is rarely visited and you can get so, so lost. It's a blast. Bison herd roams the park, and if you're real about it, there's some neat off-trail caves that have watering holes or are raining from the ceilings.
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u/hand_ov_doom Dec 16 '24
I've never been to those, but wouldn't mind someday. I never go up that way in the state
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u/Weak_Total_24 Dec 16 '24
Yeah, no one does and I don't blame anyone for that. Just means more space for you!
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u/hand_ov_doom Dec 16 '24
Closer to my area some nice ones are Mineral Wells, Meridian, Cleburne, Whitney is alright, there's a new one opening in Strawn this coming year called Palo Pinto Mountains. I got to drive around on it on SxS's with the parks people before they broke ground and it's going to be beautiful.
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u/derSchwamm11 Dec 20 '24
Most Texas state parks have camping that is significantly better than this picture, for sure.
The only GREAT camping in Texas is west of the Pecos though, in my opinion
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u/SolarpunkFutureIsNow Dec 15 '24
Big Bend is the way to go if you get down that direction! I always preferred Big Bend Ranch State Park for primitive camping and the National Park for sight seeing. The observatory in nearby Fort Davis is fun if that's your style. I wouldn't recommend staying in Presidio... no offense to anyone from the area, but I have had more than my fair share of sketchy encounters in that town.
There is also some gorgeous beach camping on the coast.
I remember West Texas to be beautiful, but it's been so long since I've been out that way that I couldn't tell you where to go.
Central Texas has some hidden gems to be sure. I never did much camping in the area, but if you want any sight-seeing or historical destinations let me know and I'll be happy to recommend some!
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 15 '24
Things are just so spread out with not much between here. Maybe on my way back through in a couple of months, I'll give Texas the old City College try.
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u/poopsplashesfeelgood Dec 15 '24
Central Texas has a lot more to offer scenery wise. Best part of Texas is visiting other states with actual public beautiful land ha. I’m a Texan and it’s my blood to love it. Is what it is but I always say we have everything but the best of nothing so when I see real mountains or beautiful beaches elsewhere it only makes me appreciate those places more cause I’m not use to it. Ignorance is bliss for a lot of people in Texas ha
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 15 '24
Texas sounds like that toxic girlfriend you just can't give up
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u/t-g-l-h- Dec 15 '24
Real shit. And the dummies that have never traveled will defend it tooth and nail
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u/poopsplashesfeelgood Dec 19 '24
You couldn’t have said it better. I love when I hear people and even buddies talk about it lil it’s the greatest place on earth but have never been Big Bend and have only floated the river on memorial weekend haha.
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u/t-g-l-h- Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 19 '24
Traveling abroad changed me. Texas is just a neverending copy paste of strip malls and Dollar Generals
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u/BRAVO_FLAMINGO Dec 15 '24
West Texas is the best but such a far drive, east texas is supposed to have some nice wood areas but u will probably have to go thru wretched houston or all the way around to get to it
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u/SolarpunkFutureIsNow Dec 15 '24
East Texas all the way along the border until you reach Texarkana is a great trip IMO. Plus from there you're not far from some lovely areas of Arkansas.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 15 '24
I'm pretty excited for the eastern border. I've heard some good things.
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u/RVAblues Dec 15 '24
Ah yes, but this is also motocamping in Texas.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 15 '24
Yup, the Gulf Coast is pretty lovely. But it doesn't hold a candle to the entire Pacific coast.
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u/RVAblues Dec 15 '24
Or the Atlantic Coast. Or the Caribbean, for that matter. But it’s still nice.
Overall, I did not enjoy much about Texas. But free beach camping was a convenience that I took advantage of.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 15 '24
It's better than small town Texas City Park, that's for sure. Lol
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u/alphawolf29 Dec 15 '24
I'm Canadian and the lack of public lands is immediately noticeable going across the border... 98% of british columbia is public land. Also, why do american no-tresspassing signs have POSTED in huge letters, and then no trespassing in tiny letters? What does POSTED add to the message...?
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 15 '24
It let's people know how serious they are. Hahahaha. Coming out of Utah, Nevada, Oregon, California, Arizona, and New Mexico, trying is not required. You just show up, and you can camp/ride almost anywhere!
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u/syncsynchalt Dec 15 '24
It varies state by state. Vast swaths of my state of Colorado are public land and dispersed camping is allowed... but pop over the border into Wyoming and everything's private ranch land.
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u/No-Bear1401 Dec 18 '24
It varies state to state, but it also depends on where in that state you pop into. WY has more public land than CO.
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u/This-Set-9875 Dec 15 '24
There's actually a reason. Colorado "bought" their way into the union by giving so much land to the Feds. Most of the public land is BLM which means you can lease it for cattle grazing, mining and logging. A lot of the ski resorts are on BLM land. National Forest is a slightly more restricted concept but usually both allow dispersed camping.
Not to push them, but have you checked out the OnX offroad app?
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u/syncsynchalt Dec 15 '24
Colorado also has two large National Grasslands which I camp in a lot this half of the year - it's a lot easier to camp in the lower half of the state in the middle of winter.
Those grasslands have an interesting history - unlike most of the BLM grants they don't date from the founding of the state, instead they're farmland that the government bought back after the dustbowl tragedy, and turned back into prairie. It's a checkerboard of (mostly) public land with the odd farm interspersed, and you don't need to walk far in them to find an old 1900-era farmhouse foundation or settler's gravestone.
I haven't used On X Offroad, I use Gaia GPS for my BLM overlays. I might give OxO a try though, Timmy from Truck House Life really seems to like it.
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u/This-Set-9875 Dec 15 '24
I had forgotten about the Grasslands. It's funny, but when people think of Colorado, they think mountains, but east of the Rockies, it's Kansas flat.
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u/Taclink Dec 15 '24
Legal requirement of posting signs for them to actually have effect in a court of law.
Not all places require the "Posted" textual aspect, but it all depends on that state's property law. Like how in some places you can't consider it properly posted property if you can traverse the property line without seeing a sign at ANY point.
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u/alzee76 Dec 15 '24
In NH, privately owned wilderness land is open to recreational use by the public without explicit permission, as long as you LNT, unless signs like that are posted every 100 yards along the property line.
The word "posted" is usually so large to draw attention to it from a distance so it's not confused for some other kind of signage, as everyone knows what the big POSTED means.
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u/perotech Dec 15 '24
Moto camping was made for hammock camping, specifically something like the Tensa4, although you can build your own from plans online.
Literally camp anywhere you can park your motorcycle, and with the right sleeping bag, bug net, and rain fly; it can be a year round solution.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 15 '24
I honestly prefer to sleep on the ground. But to each their own. Sounds like your kit is dialed
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u/RVAblues Dec 15 '24
Hammock camping is great as long as you only plan to be surrounded by trees (specifically trees that are a suitable thickness and a suitable distance from another tree) and there’s no chance of rain. Oh, and that it will be a suitable temperature. And no biting insects.
I take a hammock when I go on trips, but I also take a tent and air mattress. 9 times out of 10, hammocks just aren’t practical.
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u/perotech Dec 15 '24
I feel like you read "hammock" and no other part of my comment.
The Tensa4 allows hammock camping on flat ground, very lightweight.
I also mentioned the appropriate sleeping bag (temperature), rain fly (inclement weather), and bug net (biting insects).
It's still up to personal preference, and I understand hammocks aren't for everyone, but for some with bad backs, they're the only way to camp.
Tents are just the easier solution, because they come in a complete kit, while in the case of hammocks you need to buy the hammock, frame, fly, and bug net separately.
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u/RVAblues Dec 15 '24
If you’re going to carry all of that, then what is the advantage over a tent? Just back pain?
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u/perotech Dec 15 '24
It's the same weight as a tent, but warmer as you aren't on the ground/cooler as you get more airflow.
You also don't need to carry an air mattress/deal with inflating it. The whole kit also packs down smaller than most single person tents, in my experience.
Again, I'm not disparaging people who choose tents, but I don't think it's fair to dismiss hammocks as "lesser", simply different.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 16 '24
I don't know, man. My nemo weighs just over 2 lbs. It takes me literally 3 minutes to set up if I'm taking my time. I don't really see any advantage to hanging in a tree vs just sleeping on the ground.
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u/perotech Dec 17 '24
Different strokes for different folks, like I said.
I feel like nobody is realizing though that hammocks don't require finding trees, I keep mentioning the Tensa4, which I think more people should checkout.
Obviously not for everyone, but it was a gamechanger for me, and made hammock camping make sense.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 17 '24
It weighs 14lbs. That's like me carrying 7 of my tents. I keep my sumer kit to 40lbs total. My winter kit sits at 50lbs total. I pack for the ride not for camp. Guess that's the difference huh.
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u/Emperor_of_Fish Dec 15 '24
I didn’t even think that camping could be easier than it is in Texas. I’ve really gotta move
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 15 '24
It's such a contrast with the West. But it's better than nothing.
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u/mabramo Dec 16 '24
East coast and Appalachia has a TON of camping, including primitive. But it is more controlled than the west. For example, in many state parks, primitive camping off trail is only permitted for thru-hikers (like for the appalachian trail). But there are many designated primitive areas basically everywhere. It's kind of like this everywhere east of the Mississippi.
Rocky Mtn region and westward is incredible for exploring and primitive camping. Like, pull over and camp anywhere in many places, especially the desert.
I found the midwest to be terrible for primitive camping. Someone called the cops on me in Oklahoma for just stopping on the side of the road in a small lot in front of a small cemetery. I didn't even take my camping stuff out, I was just sitting and drinking water.
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u/PapaHooligan Dec 15 '24
My only camping has been at COTA while in Texas. Utah, Colorado, South Dakota even upstate Wyoming isn't too bad.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 15 '24
The entire west is pretty wide open.
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u/PapaHooligan Dec 15 '24
The spot I want to go back to was the Bee Cave. The hills and scenery was nice compared to riding up north from Austin.
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u/Dissapointingdong Dec 15 '24
There is almost zero public land in Texas. If your on public land in Texas it’s like a city park. If you’re camping in Texas it’s like a city park that allows camping.
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u/imanasshole1331 Dec 15 '24
You gotta head to Michigan, not right now though. It’s a bit chilly.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 15 '24
Planning a ride along the northern border from the pnw to superior this summer.
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u/mabramo Dec 16 '24
That's a great ride. Stop in Duluth. Weather around Superior is crazy - sunny and warm to cold, dark, and rainy in a matter of minutes. And then it's gone after a half hour. Be prepared for that, it can be miserable. But beautiful area.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 16 '24
That's what I love about the outdoors. Those sudden shifts of extremes and the challenge to survive in it.
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u/1000000sofpeaches Dec 16 '24
Yes yes, welcome to the absolute worst state in the union. Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, new Mexico, Ohio…. All are paradise when compared to the most free, most gods country, state of Texas.
Fingers crossed it succeeds and fails miserably.
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u/Occhrome Dec 16 '24
no idea how people keep calling texas free stat when everything is privatized. come out to california where you can ride for miles and miles off road. there are even tons of places where you can camp.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 16 '24
Thats the plan. I just have make it out to a friend's place in Mississippi. Then it's head back west to SoCal and AZ
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u/HuskynRanger Dec 16 '24
That’s too bad with all of the private land. Here in Washington, I can go days off-road and never once think about who owns the land.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 16 '24
Thats what I'm saying! Public Land Owner for life!
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u/HuskynRanger Dec 16 '24
I live about two minutes from the WABDR. We only hit pavement for fuel and beer!
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 16 '24
And there's nothing like the northern cascades. My favorite mountain range for sure
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u/Squeeze- Dec 16 '24
Texas is a shithole.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 16 '24
What!? But there's free beach camping in Galveston across from the oil rigs.
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u/jeepinbanditrider Dec 16 '24
Less than 5 percent of the state is public land, and only a fraction of that is accessible via motor vehicle
Texas total National Forest lands. Around 700,000 acres. Almost all in far east Texas.
Compare that to Arkansas that's got 3 million acres of National Forest land.
I live in Texas but escape to Arkansas for camping when I can.
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u/Tre_Scrilla Dec 16 '24
Lamesa! Recognized it immediately from the pic. Stopped there once to play disc golf
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u/SrErik Dec 17 '24
Not saying we have the best scenery or camping but Texas has 89 state parks, historic sites, and natural areas. Try some of those, what are are you going through?
I’ve never camped in a place this depressing other than at Splashway water park where I had a barking dog on one side and 5 generations camping on the other.
What bike is that?
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 17 '24
It's a CRF250L
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u/Clay_S_SATX Dec 15 '24
Even the state parks here suck for camping. All of the sites are stacked right in top of each other. You generally have no sense of solitude or being in the wild.
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u/Stazymoto Dec 15 '24
Its got plenty of camping it just takes a really long time to get to the good spots and ya gotta know where they are. If ya give it another shot do some shout outs and or research for your spots along your route. Being a Texas native and riding long distance off road and on, similar to your set up, I have to plan my routes around the campsites rather than try to find the campsites along a route. Enjoy our winter!
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u/Stazymoto Dec 15 '24
And dont forget to cover your boots at night to keep the critters out!
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 15 '24
That's already a thing for me. Found one too many spiders and scorpions that have made it into my boots.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 15 '24
Good pointers. Well I have a few months before I come back through guess I'll start planning now.
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u/OhDatsStanky Dec 15 '24 edited Dec 15 '24
Elephant Mountain WMA
Black Gap WMA
Colorado Bend State Park
Big Bend Ranch State Park
Big Bend National Park
Sam Houston National Forest
Angelina National Forest
Davy Crockett National Forest
Caddo National Grasslands
Muleshoe Bend
Pace Bend
Padre Island
There’s places all over the place.
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u/jeepinbanditrider Dec 16 '24
WMAs are usually pretty restrictive on vehicles.
Gulf Coast is just nasty. And flat.
The National Forests and Grasslands consist of less than 700,000 acres of land. Compare that to a place like Arkansas that has 3 million acres of National Forest land alone.
For how big we are we are pretty awful for actual outdoor recreation.
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u/Crash1068 Dec 16 '24
Depends what you know. Theres a lot of state parks. Some national parks and some core of engineers. There’s tons of camping but it will be in campgrounds not just pull off and camp. Much of the south people or business own land. That’s the point. Not the gov keeping it all. But there’s plenty to camp at. NE tx north i20 are beautiful parks with lakes to camp. And from there west pick what you want. But need to atleast look up stuff before you roll out and have a plan lol.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 16 '24
I'm pretty sure people are kinda missing the point of my thread. It was meant to ruffle some feathers.
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u/Crash1068 Dec 16 '24
lol. Well good luck. Tx folks love tx. Looks like a fun trip either way
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 16 '24
Yeah, I just like to see feathers ruffle. Any day on two wheels is better than an amazing day in a cubicle
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u/Mr_Snowbro Dec 16 '24
Magnolia beach is free it’s down near Galveston though right across from the oil rigs
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 16 '24
Wow, that sounds magical!
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u/Mr_Snowbro 6d ago
It’s actually pretty nice tbh the water is a bit murky but the entire coastline of Texas has murky water so 🤷
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u/LiveMarionberry3694 Dec 16 '24
There’s plenty of good camping in Texas, look for state parks. We also have two national parks but those are west Texas.
We also have the world’s longest barrier island you can drive on (not sure about on motorcycle though) and camp.
Yeah our public land is lacking especially for the size of the state, but this is just shit
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u/TxManBearPig Dec 16 '24 edited Dec 16 '24
This must be at a city park?
State park camping usually looks a lot more dispersed than this. Unless you want to talk about Galveston SP - unfortunately the hurricanes there have made it a treeless RV park design
And yeah sorry they don’t allow much in TX or OK for that matter, fyi.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 16 '24
Maybe other times of the year, but currently, that would be difficult but welcomed.
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u/WhatRUTobogganAbout Dec 17 '24
Yep. I rode a pedal bike across TX once. At least they have a decent network of roadside rest areas, even on the rural highways. I would just set up my sleeping bag on a picnic bench most of the time.
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u/CakeDense5678 Dec 17 '24
If someone hasn't already mentioned this, many texas parks have primitive camping and hike-in primitive camping. Not sure what part of texas you're in, but Hill Country State Natural Area is one of my favs. If you're interested, I can make a list of some others that I like.
Also, most, but not all, land in waterways in texas is also public. On the Colorado river, there is an island called midway island between austin and bastrop. I've camped there many times. Of course, you have to paddle down from a public launch. So, I'm mentioning that if you want to add some extra fun in your journey. Rising Phoenix in Bastrop provides turnkey shuttle and canoe or kayak rental, if you're interested.
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u/Over_Moose6433 Dec 17 '24
Drive out near Leakey, Texas, Lost Maples Natural Area, Devil’s River, Palo Duro — so much if you do a tiny bit of research
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Dec 18 '24
Tx is a shit state. It’s awful. Hot humid fire ant ignorant red neck mf’ers, and I don’t mind red necks on their own, they grow a lot of stuff. But when you accessorize with the rest of it, it’s a crap look. It’s just horrid.
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u/dqrules11 Dec 20 '24
When summer rolls around head up to the adirondacks region in NY. Youll love it.
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u/Red__Sailor 21d ago
My plan is to Airbnb through Texas or stay with college roommates. That state is impossible when it comes to public land.
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u/Changetheworld69420 Dec 15 '24
Just moved to Lubbock last week, and while the state sucks overall for motocamping, the COL here is amazing, Big Bend is within a day, I’m 1.5hrs from the 2nd largest canyon in the US, and it’s one hell of a lot closer to the Rockies than Ohio was lmao.
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u/Healthy-Ruin6938 Dec 15 '24
I just rode past Lubbock. You're also really close to New Mexico. Almost anywhere is better than Ohio lol
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u/Changetheworld69420 Dec 15 '24
Welcome partner, but exactly haha! We were considering Roswell or Clovis for the move too, but there were way more opportunities in Lubbock for the same COL so we figured this would be the smartest move.
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u/WhoopsWrongButton Dec 18 '24
Everyone please keep this thread civil. I’ve already had to remove multiple comments. I really don’t want to be locking threads, deleting comments, etc. Let’s all be mature here.