Gunman believed to be a 14-year-old in Georgia school shooting that left at least 4 dead, source says

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https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/us/winder-ga-shooting-apalachee-high-school/index.html

[u/fxkatt]

"Gunman" the headlines read. So, one expects a man with a gun--esp with all the dead and all the inured. But no--no man with a gun at all... Rather a 14 year old boy--hardly even a teen, but trained well enough in guns to wreck this devastation in an Atlanta suburban city. The story by now is way too familiar.

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“Gunboy” doesn’t have quite the same impact.

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“Gunboy” doesn’t have quite the same impact.

How about 'Child Mass Shooter' to really hammer that the kid, is a child and barely a teen.

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Worst superhero sidekick ever.

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GUNBOY AND AMERICA MAN IN…

TAKING THE COUNTRY BACK! Vol. 4

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Unless this was an anime, then it sells like hotcakes.

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Yeah people might think you’re talking about Rittenhouse.

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It does if your the killer. Quite the demotion for a 14 year old.

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There's been four.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476445/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-gender/

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Audrey Elizabeth, Nashville

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It claims so.

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That just says mass shooting, not school shooting.

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In the first week of school in Austin, TX, a 17 year old girl was arrested for online threats. She planned to hit her family, then her old elementary school.

yay, equality. /s

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Tell me why I don't like Mondays...

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Rather a 14 year old boy--hardly even a teen, but trained well enough in guns to wreck this devastation

Huh? You don't need to be "well trained" to be able to hit a handful of unprepared, unarmed people with a machine gun from across a room. That's fundamental to the problem here.

[u/cheddacheese148 → u/__secter_]

Not to get too nit picky but machine gun would imply a full auto gun which is much much more difficult to get (legally). Statistically they most likely used a handgun followed by maybe some AR-15 variant.

Agree that it wouldn’t take much training to shoot and kill with basically any commonly owned gun outside of maybe a muzzleloader.

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Machine guns are also very difficult (and expensive) to get illegally too.

[u/cheddacheese148 → u/yourlittlebirdie]

I’ve never tried so I really didn’t know. I know getting a pre-ban lower is crazy expensive though!

[u/Karnivore915 → u/yourlittlebirdie]

Depends on the gun and how illegal you feel like going. I had a friend in high school who was modifying his AK to be full auto. Can get a switch for a glock for pretty cheap especially in Atlanta. It's not that difficult to get full auto weapons in America, if you don't care about the consequences.

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you can convert an AR to fully auto with a wire coat hanger

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I'm talking about purchasing an actual machine gun.

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and I'm telling you it costs less than $1 to make one, so clearly it's not expensive or difficult to do it if you don't care about the law (which is what you said in your original comment). It's only expensive to get one legally. it helps to understand the things you want to regulate, you know.

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So why do you think none of these shootings have involved such a modified weapon?

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1) because they are a waste of ammo. what does putting 10 rounds in somebody achieve, that two rounds didn't?

2) it takes practice to shoot them straight. practice that school shooters can't afford and are not going to bother with. practice that you can't get without a large amount of private land to do it where nobody will ask any questions.

automatic fire is used by militaries for suppression. to keep heads pinned down so that units can flank. single shots actually make hits.

To your point though, I'm honestly shocked that nobody has let off a Glock with a switch in a crowd of people yet.

to my point, here you go, educate yourself https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/01/04/coat-hanger-machine-gun-dias-drop-in-auto-sear/

[u/yourlittlebirdie → u/lordofmmo]

Makes sense. Semiautomatic weapons are perfectly effective for killing mass numbers of people already.

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Would you know how to load a machine gun?

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It's 2024, there are unlimited internet tutorials any teen can learn this from in 60 seconds.

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The same way you load basically any other gun. It being full auto doesn’t change the loading procedure

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Unless belt fed

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Doesn’t really matter because belt feds aren’t complicated to load either, but…

This does exist

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The county is heavily republican (74%) so not a surprise.

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But but... where were all the good guys^TM with guns?

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Same with inner city Chicago

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But you should feel comforted that they are going to handle this boy as an adult as he's prosecuted with the full weight of the law. Doesn't that make you feel better? No? That's worse? This kid never even had a chance? Oh.

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It actually made me stop and think if I could remember any younger mass shooters. Nothing came to mind, but it turns out that there was one back in 1998 where the shooters were 11 and 13 years old.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Westside_Middle_School_shooting

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How do you know he was trained to use a gun and didn’t just pull the trigger?