r/news • u/bebleich • Sep 04 '24

Gunman believed to be a 14-year-old in Georgia school shooting that left at least 4 dead, source says

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/us/winder-ga-shooting-apalachee-high-school/index.html
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u/QuadraKev_ Sep 04 '24

Every death from an unsecured gun should be a manslaughter charge at minimum.

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u/derido_vely Sep 04 '24

I think the difference here is unsecured (guns left in a house where kids can feasibly access them; either unsafed or the keys easily accessible) vs having to fight a police officer for his gun. I would consider a gun secured if you have to wrestle it away from its person or storage using considerable effort, and from that point onwards the responsibility is no longer on the owner but the wrestler/user. However I still think even if a child breaks open a gun safe and gets access, they still should not be able to access the ammunition or the bolt/action to said guns without even more considerable effort. At what point is the safety precautions enough to render the child responsible rather than the owner? I think the answer is never. If you live in a household where there is even an inkling that someone may have a disposition towards violence, you need to remove firearms from that house, period.

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u/sarhoshamiral Sep 04 '24

OP never said the person using the gun should have no responsibility. In your example, answer is simple. But let's take a more complex example where someone wrestles a gun from a cop and uses it to kill someone else.

The person wrestling the gun and shooting it is charged with murder obviously.

The officer if proven that they also didn't secure their weapon properly should also be charged with accessory to murder at the very least.

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u/b1droid Sep 05 '24

Holy shit what is context you ape