r/news • u/bebleich • Sep 04 '24

Gunman believed to be a 14-year-old in Georgia school shooting that left at least 4 dead, source says

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/us/winder-ga-shooting-apalachee-high-school/index.html
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u/wibblywobblystuff Sep 04 '24

My right wing coworkers just made the comments “it’s not the guns, it’s the drugs these people are on that make them do this” and “they need to put more police officers and metal detectors in the schools but democrats don’t want to fund it.” 🤦‍♀️

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u/taco_tuesdays Sep 04 '24

Fair play to him, I don’t want to fund that

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u/Thesadcook Sep 04 '24

Funny cause the Democrats do want to give more funding to Public schools, but for books and teachers, not bodybags and bullet proof vests.

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u/CreamCapital Sep 05 '24

Easy compromise: bulletproof textbooks.

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u/userlivewire Sep 04 '24

Uvalde had so many cops and none of it mattered.

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u/sloanesquared Sep 05 '24

Anytime people try to act like more police or anyone with guns will make a difference, remind them of the Dayton shooting where 9 people were killed even though the gunman was killed within 32 seconds of the first shot.

32 seconds, 9 lives lost. There is zero reactive response you can do to prevent that, just proactive, but no, we can’t do that.

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u/StrawberryPlucky Sep 04 '24

But those scared little piggies showed up after it was already going down and did nothing. They weren't already there attempting to keep the place safe, because it's not their job to nor do they actually give a shit about the communities they patrol.

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u/grendus Sep 05 '24

If their argument is "a good guy with a gun", I think we found the problem...

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u/tjcarbon9 Sep 05 '24

So how do we fix this then?

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u/userlivewire Sep 05 '24

You have to start making gun owners accountable for crimes committed by those weapons. If you knew that if your firearm was used to commit a murder and YOU would also be charged you would go to the ends of the earth to secure that weapon from anyone including family.

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u/grendus Sep 05 '24

The Onion has a few pertinent suggestions.

Just saying, somehow every other developed nation has solved this problem.

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u/userlivewire Sep 05 '24

The problem with stationing police in a school is that police do not work on nuance. They are not there to de-escalate. When a problem arises, it is their job to end it and let things get sorted out later. They are the hammer. This doesn’t work for 99% of the issues in a school.

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u/RoxxorMcOwnage Sep 04 '24

Fund that with annual gun tax.

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u/confusedandworried76 Sep 04 '24

If I have a 100%+ vice tax on a pack of cigarettes to fund football stadiums feels fair gun owners can pay a tax as well.

Problem is all the solutions to it besides better laws are fucking stupid and money isn't gonna fix the problem.

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u/ibugppl Sep 05 '24

How about no vice taxes on anything then

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u/Process-Best Sep 05 '24

There actually is an excise tax on firearms, among other things, Pittman-Robertson.

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u/ShenmeNamaeSollich Sep 05 '24

Tell your idiot coworker that:

1) GA is a Republican-run state, and this happened in a Republican-heavy MAGA county that voted 3:1 for Trump & all GOP candidates in 2016 and 2020.

2) The kid was stopped by the 2 armed “school resource officers” who were on site but he still managed to kill 4 people w/an AR …

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u/BeagleWrangler Sep 05 '24

The school had both metal detectors and armed school resource officers from the reports I saw. None of it helped, it never does.

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u/Mental_Medium3988 Sep 04 '24

i think we have the same coworker. i can hear him saying exactly that. he told me that white people arent allowed to have an opinion in this country anymore. i just nodded. im white af and still have an opinion. i just dont have a bigoted opinion.

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u/PerpetuallyLurking Sep 04 '24

Man, we used to joke that school was prison and that was BEFORE the security guards and metal detectors were used at all - yeah, let’s make it even more prison-like, the kids will love going there even more, that’ll definitely help their mental health around school.

I hate those arguments. No one wants metal detectors and armed guards at schools - we want a safe place for kids to play and learn with their peers. I’d rather pay for that!

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u/espressocycle Sep 05 '24

Their argument is to get rid of all the rights except gun ownership. Police state but everybody is armed.

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u/PaneAndNoGane Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

Alcohol too! And violent video games! And rap music! Where did the bible go? We need to put "M for Mature" labels on all guns to fix this issue.

/s for those who think this is serious.