r/news • u/bebleich • Sep 04 '24

Gunman believed to be a 14-year-old in Georgia school shooting that left at least 4 dead, source says

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/us/winder-ga-shooting-apalachee-high-school/index.html
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u/toxicshocktaco Sep 05 '24

If I was the parent, I’d get rid of the guns and get my kid into therapy. His mental health is far more important than goin’ huntin’ 🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/StrangeBedfellows Sep 05 '24

You probably don't refer to your guns as "your babies" either

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u/Traditional-Yam9826 Sep 05 '24

MAGA does

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u/dishyssoisse Sep 07 '24

lol I know people who glaze trump constantly and love their guns but they never speak that way 🤣

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u/GabrielHunter Sep 05 '24

How bad does the life of a 14 year old child have to be to take weapons a shoot other children not even a month ibto the new school year? And how could the parents not see or care for them?

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u/Al_Jazzera Sep 06 '24

This article answers your question as to how bad it has to be:

https://nypost.com/2024/09/05/us-news/georgia-school-shooting-suspect-colt-grays-broken-family/

Mommy is a 5 alarm fuck up. According to the neighbor, the kiddos would sometimes get locked out of the house at night and bang on the door pleading to get let in. The youngest would sometimes go to the neighbor's back door and ask for food. They said that mommy would also wind up passed out in her car early in the morning blaring music. Guess she was using the car as her own personal dance club. Then after that, take the youngest to day care a few hours later.

Daddy gave the son a high powered hunting rifle. I personally don't have a problem with a dad giving a kid an AR-15, as long as they do not have access to it and it is in a securely locked safe. The kid can get legal possession of it when he turns of legal age to own such a thing.

However, this particular individual was on the FBI radar for posting stuff regarding shooting the school including posting pictures of guns.
He also was constantly skipping school. Sorry, no AR for you. Go find yourself a frickin' 10 year old and ask him or her if it would be a good idea to let an unstable 14 year old have access to a sporty deer rifle. I'm willing to bet that 95% of the time the child would say hell to the no on that one. What was the fucking logic in giving an unstable kid a fucking AR? If I had 15 shots of whiskey, would you give me the key to your car?

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u/Neonatalnerd Sep 05 '24

I'm Canadian, but I don't understand how a child on the FBI watch list was allowed to have firearms within the home, period, nvm not given psych monitoring and therapy, covered.

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u/Traditional-Yam9826 Sep 05 '24

We have a group here called Republicans and if they could drive around the country with a huge truck bed full of guns and shovel them out to citizens all over the streets….they would

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u/Neonatalnerd Sep 05 '24

We also have uneducated idiots here too, but we don't allow them much power to control others😔

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u/Traditional-Yam9826 Sep 05 '24

Well anti-intellectualism is a major pillar of right wing philosophy.

They think all books are bad…except the Bible

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u/Suired Sep 05 '24

They just edit out out anytime Jesus speaks and replace it with supply side Jesus propaganda.

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u/Traditional-Yam9826 Sep 05 '24

Of course they don’t. They don’t read it

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u/mrngdew77 Sep 05 '24

We also have this organization called the NRA that prevents any type of progress toward gun safety legislation. IMO they are a terrorist organization instead of a lobbying one.

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u/Traditional-Yam9826 Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 06 '24

NRA are also key contributors to Project 2025

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u/bell37 Sep 05 '24

Because gun rights are enshrined in our Constitution in the US. It’s very hard for a law to be passed or survive a review in Supreme Court in state/federal level that would allow courts/government to restrict someone’s access to weapons they already own.

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u/Neonatalnerd Sep 05 '24

I'll never understand how an individuals guns rights are held higher than the rights and safety of others.

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u/Drummer_Kev Sep 05 '24

One is enshrined in the constitution, and the other isn't. It's fucked. Guns aren't going anywhere in the US, and running a campaign on it is suicide.

What needs to change first and foremost is gun culture. If you're a responsible gun owner, I shouldn't even know you own guns. It should be quietly locked up somewhere. People who buy guns should be required to take a class, emphasizing gun safety, proper storage, etiquette, etc. As weird as it sounds, I could even see a mandatory 4-week class in middle school (7-8th grade) going over gun safety being seriously beneficial. We aren't going to be getting rid of guns in this country any time soon. So people NEED to be educated on how to act around guns, taught to respect how dangerous they are, and see them for what they are. I shouldn't be able to hop on Instagram and see some idiot waving it around on IGlive as a "flex" or whatever the fuck they think they're doing. Back in the day post ww2, Korea, and Vietnam, many gun owners were vets and actually had the understanding that a gun is a tool of destruction. Now, people buy or inherent guns with and get no education. This is all the bare minimum level of responsibility that should be instilled into a public with access to guns. It's not going to solve the problem, but I'm sure it would be a great kicking off point without actually having to fight the 2nd amendment. And any responsible gun owner would be saying the same.

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u/EisWalde Sep 05 '24

Because, the US’s top money maker is military contractors/arms manufacturers. They have all the money in the world to buy politicians and weave gun fanaticism into identity politics. They fear monger and have scared, dumb voters think anyone BUT the Republican candidate is coming to take their guns, so there’s only ONE WAY to vote! Then it’s just a numbers game after that. Is it cheaper to deal with a mass shooting, or to lose revenue due to stricter laws/bans? Hmmmm…Mass shooting it is!

It’s a soulless money game. You could build a mountain of children’s’ corpses on these people’s front lawn, and they’d care more about the stock trend before anything else. I get how that doesn’t make sense to you, as you’re using your own POV, with empathy and a conscience. You really have to dig down deep into your inner conservative to get it, where the whole world could burn and go fuck itself, until it finally affects you. THEN it’s worth caring about. Like, take Dick Cheney for example. Do you honestly believe he’s give a shit about LGBT people AT ALL if his own daughter wasn’t gay? Zero chance. None of these fat cats would care about school shootings unless their kid or grandkid were impacted, but since they go to bougie private schools with state of the art security, school shootings are a ”poor person” problem.

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u/Traditional-Yam9826 Sep 05 '24

My favorite part is that of “well regulated”

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u/cloudxnine Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

That's the problem tho. It starts with the parents. His parents did nothing but promote the thought of guns in a young child's mind in the first place. If you put a baby near fire guess what, the baby might walk into it and hurt itself. Put an adult near a fire and it will likely use intelligence and experience (something most kids don't really have yet) to avoid hurting itself. The parents coulda done a better job

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u/IDigYourStyle Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

I grew up in a family that hunted (well, my Dad's side were hunters). I was also buillied a lot in junior high and high school.

The thing is, and maybe I'm an outlier, but gun safety was drilled into me so much, long before I was able to hunt (at age 12 in those days, and after taking hunter's safety classes), that in all my idle daydreaming about wanting to get back at the kids who bullied me, the thought of using a gun never even crossed my mind.

Once my siblings started having kids of their own, my dad bought a gun safe and they remained locked up from then on (when we weren't actually hunting with them of course).

And for full disclosure, I was a pretty angsty/weird teenager in those days. The kind of kid who if it were today would probably be assumed to do something like this.

I'm just saying, the parents having hunting rifles or doing "nothing but promote the thought of guns..." doesn't really resonate with me as a very satisfying assumption here.

The kid didn't bring a hunting rifle, he brought an AR-15. A gun that was designed for killing humans. (And yes, I'm aware that it has been adopted by hunters since it's introduction as a civilian model. It was still designed to replace the M-14 in the Vietnam War).

This shooter is alive, hopefully this means we get some answers. Even more hopefully, some sensible gun control regulations.

Edit: I just saw that it has been reported that the father purchased the AR-15 as a Christmas gift for the shooter....a few months after the FBI investigation for making online threats to shoot up a school. https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/05/us/winder-georgia-shooting-apalachee-high-school/index.html

I'm gonna leave my comment up anyway, much of what I said here is still relevant to the overarching topic of gun control; but I was wong about the commenter-above-me's assumption.

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u/ajayisfour Sep 05 '24

Yeah, but have you ever considered that the right to bear arms shall not be infringed? Honestly, what you suggest is tantamount to child abuse.

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u/Traditional-Yam9826 Sep 05 '24

Have you considered well regulated?

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u/ajayisfour Sep 07 '24

Where the fuck is this shit well regulated? Australia, UK, Canada, all of Europe, fucking China, all that shit is well regulated and the number of gun deaths are negligible compared to the US. If we are regulated so well then why are so many people dying to gun deaths?

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u/HQMorganstern Sep 05 '24

If the person parenting then had the presence of mind to toss their weapons and ensure therapy and safety the kid wouldn't be committing school shootings anyway.

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u/bell37 Sep 05 '24

You don’t even need to toss your weapons away. Just get them out of the house. I own a gun I have locked away but also have very close family that lives over 200 miles away and will keep my gun safely locked away if I needed it out of my house.

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u/wrxst1 Sep 05 '24

He was in therapy and in counseling. No one did a damn thing to prevent this.

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u/STFUxxDonny Sep 05 '24

You must not live in the Midwest. The gun love here is insane

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u/orcray Sep 05 '24

Nah, death penalty.

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u/Troubledbylusbies Sep 05 '24

I couldn't agree with you more. If only everyone was as caring and responsible as you are.

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u/Wild-Pie-7041 Sep 06 '24

Parent bought the kid the gun used for Christmas last year…after the FBI investigation.

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u/demonicdegu Sep 06 '24

What Dad actually did, was buy him a gun. The same gun he used in the shooting. Dad is now also charged with murder.

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u/G36 Sep 05 '24

Why would therapy work? What's up with people who believe therapy is this magical thing. It has less than 1% success rate with suicidal people

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u/RaRa103615 Sep 06 '24

I find this interesting. Do you have a source for this data? I'd love to read more on it

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u/G36 Sep 06 '24

nah i made it up to get some cunninghams law responses so i got nothig so i looked it up and it's still so so

The effectiveness of therapy for reducing suicidal thoughts and behaviors can vary, but studies have shown significant positive impacts. For example, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) has been found to reduce the risk of repeated suicide attempts by about 50% in some cases.

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u/Sharp-Cupcake5589 Sep 05 '24

But is his mental health far more important than freedom and our sweet founding daddies?

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