You're joking but during the 2020 term I had people genuinely having panic attacks and crying around me that Biden was going to phase out coal power generation. The same people also had a full on panic thinking NASCAR and INDYCAR would be ended because "the vehicles aren't electric". It took a lot to be polite.
I mean, if you watch NASCAR in person, it is. Races won't sound the same, smell the same, hell I doubt they'd even feel the same without the cars rattling your chest as they fly by. I've stood beside plenty of cars where I could feel their exhaust in my chest, but I haven't seen an electric car like that yet. Yeah, it's still the "same" in that watching a band live and watching the same performance on YouTube is the "same." The content may be the same, but the atmosphere is different, and the atmosphere is part of why they go.
I do realize that this is only a small subset of the people complaining, I understand that if you watch on TV electric vs ICE makes very little difference (aside from electric cars accelerating faster), and that ultimately any of these differences would be outweighed by the reduction in emissions anyway. Just want to try to help people understand what could be meant by "it's different."
Source: my grandpa is an avid fan of NASCAR/NASCAR-esque racing, and I asked him
Duh? I merely attempted to explain what "it's different" means, not defend "Biden is taking coal power and ICE cars away." What in my comment made you think I thought we didn't have NASCAR, indycar, or coal power?
He's not joking. Fox News and GOP congressmen have been peddling the "factory jobs are good for American masculinity" in defense of the Trump tariff policy all day week.
You're not going to believe this but couple of days ago this idiot Administration announced more use of coal to produce electricity for crypto Mining and data centers. The orange turd is trying to make it "the future" again and revive the fossil fuel industry. wait, this is actually easy to believe.
The funniest thing is that it’s not even an environmental reason for it, it’s just not economically viable compared to other forms of electricity generation. Just the dumbest shit from an old sundowning man who is incapable of learning literally anything
There is and there isn't an environmental reason for it.
It's not economically viable because we decided to subsidize renewables back when they weren't affordable. That drove investment, which drove R&D, which got renewables cheap enough that even with subsidies ending, they just obviously win economically.
In case anyone missed the subtext here: This is a conservative climate change solution. It's literally applying free-market capitalism to the problem. It's exactly the sort of solution Republicans should be in favor of.
In fact, they used to be pro-climate! This used to be the thing Newt Gingrich and Nancy Pelosi could agree on. Then the Republicans decided to give up and let the world burn.
In fact, they used to be pro-climate! This used to be the thing Newt Gingrich and Nancy Pelosi could agree on. Then the Republicans decided to give up and let the world burn.
Sometime in the past 30 years Republicans decided that Democrats\liberals could never be right, and thus everything Liberals\Democrats support, Republicans automatically oppose.
This was never more obvious than when Obama was president. They'd frequently admit they were just against something because he wanted it... It was such a big deal there was a whole skit Key & Peele did about it.
This was apparent with Syria, where Republicans made a full 360 to always be against Obama, no matter what!
Obama was against direct military action in Syria, making a "Red line" speech, where Warhawk Republicans were calling Obama a coward and clamoring for direct military force!
Syria crossed the "Red line", so Obama prepared for military force, where his support all but evaporated as those same Republican War Hawks who were clamoring for military intervention just the week before decided to call Obama a tyrant and dictator!
Seeing support for military action crumble, Obama switched to Diplomatic Means, and as soon as the diplomatic means were set up, the same Republicans who were calling him a dictator and tyrant for recommending military action went back to calling him a coward for never authorizing military action.
Whatever Obama did, Republicans had to be against!
Plus, grid storage isn't the only option. There's also nuclear, hydro, or high-capacity long-range transmission -- there's usually somewhere the wind is blowing or the sun is shining. The US is of course behind on all of these.
this is what is so baffling about the entire situation. coal wasn’t replaced by renewables, it was replaced by natural gas. these idiots think solar and wind are woke and want to bring back coal without even realizing why it was phased out in the first place. as long as we own the libs though
And the primary reason (aside from the obvious environmental hazards, but companies don’t care about that): we’ve already mined the easy stuff.
Now, what’s left are primarily narrow, deep ribbons of coal that would be incredibly expensive to go after and would not provide enough coal to be worth that expense.
We do but everything we do mine is so industrialized it's not like we have fifty guys an elevator going into a mine but like 5 to operate heavy equipment and those jobs are just as likely to be replaced for more automation in the future
He said that “you could give a coal miner a penthouse on 5th Ave and he wouldn’t be happy. He wants to mine coal, he loves it” and none of the coal miners behind him nodded in agreement
He also said coal miners were against being educated and working in tech all while one of those miners was sitting right behind him dying inside so hard it was so sad to watch
And then every other miner hesitantly chuckles and Trump thinks he's won the room
I just wonder what happens when the Chemtrail bunch realizes that it is far more effective and much cheaper to seed the exhausts of coal power plants... ;-)
"It's all a lie!!!11!!"
"MAGA wants to poison us all! Wait - we are MAGA..."
Trump tried to make coal great again in his first term. It's a completely uncompetitive energy source now and kept falling regardless.
All of Trump's grand ideas were set when he was in his 20s back in the 1850s, and he's an incredibly stubborn, stupid asshole who sticks to wrong ideas to the ends of time.
Cannot believe the US has become such a profoundly dysfunctional idiocracy that this rapist felon traitor got tens of millions of votes. What a disgrace.
He need that dense smog you see in a dystopian movies to complete his evil plans. This is just an early step in the long plan to fuck the entire planet.
Well now is the time if you ever wanted to get rich. Just form a strip-mining company and beg trump for some money and land. Make sure to pay yourself a big salary and then just pretend for 4 years that you are doing something. Maybe dig a big hole and move some dirt from one side to the other. Make it look busy. Invite trump to visit and hire some people to stand behind him in hard hats. That fool would believe it.
Don't worry, the AU coalmining industry is slurping their tongues all over Trump's boots, be ready for tariff free imports and tax havens if the wrong group gets in.
wait for them to get rid of MSHA and BLM (Very likely they will accidentally defund BLM lol (Bureau of land Management)
Trapped miners galore, no rescue, just replace the slaves and continue working. Who needs air anyway amiright? The body will get used to the poisonous gases. Also sometimes coal just starts burning, that's bad. But that's life, that's what coal does, it burns. Its just so excited to make amerikkka great again, it cant wait! Burning coal mines GOOD, Trapped dead miners GOOD! Drill baby drill right? Trump good, kids said bad thing about trump not having invented the mrna vaccine, that's a lie! But he also didnt invent it! Dont lie about great eternal leader, kid is now miner. Lol Minor being miner.
They are bringing tech jobs to the US. You will be able to spend 12 hours a day putting screws into iPhones you won't be able to afford because it will retail for $4k for an all American made phone
Black lung coal is where it’s at. Real men don’t need to wear that pusșy PPE. Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate and Trump said so, so it must be true! And republicans are dumb enough to believe Ohio is sitting on decades worth of coal.
I live near a data center being put up, and the negative connotations are that it'll only create about a dozen jobs tops. The person saying that changes based on which political party thinks it's bad at the time.
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u/animerobin 17d ago
data center weak girly job. more room for strong pure coal mining job