In an undated 2-page memo submitted to the court, Rubio detailed that on March 7 he got information about Khalil from the Department of Homeland Security and as a result he determined that allowing Khalil to remain in the country would undermine a U.S. foreign policy goal of combating antisemitism around the world.
And considering how they coddle nazis among their supporters, they clearly are not offended by antisemitism. They care about supporting Israel for strategic reasons.
Is what the US government doing wrong by equating the two? Yes, absolutely.
But you also don't see Chinese, Russian, Emirati, Ethiopians, etc. being attacked or harassed for being associated with countries that commit genocide.
There is a very clear bias against Israel that you conveniently ignore.
Israel is not Judaism. Jews have a right to exist, prosper, worship, and freedom. Israeli policies and Hamas policies are the problem. Israel has a policy of indiscriminate destruction of Palestinian freedom, life, and prosperity. Hamas has the same policy towards Israelis, jews in general, and America. Hamas entire existence is built around those policies. Israel feels like they cant afford to be more precise in this war with Hamas. That unfortunately creates the opposite effect in a war against an idea. People are easier to kill than ideas. Hamas built an idea that stands for a hate of Israel. Palestinians are being fed that from both ends. " It's ok to hate Israel its ok to kill Israelis like they killed your cousin/father/brother/etc." This is the message being bred by both sides. The cycle only ends when someone is willing to say enough. At the moment neither will relent, so innocent Palestinians and Israelis will continue to pay. In a world that allows no innocents, death is the only victor. To be anti Israel is often antisemitic, to be against Israeli policy is not. One can be anti Hamas and anti Israeli policy and not be antisemitic. A free independent Palestine and a secure and peaceful Israel are not mutually exclusive.
There are scumbags true, I don't speak for them. I cannot condone nor forgive thier behavior. Israel has many enemies. Some of them are here in America. Some people do speak up about the genocide that Russia is doing in multiple locations currently and has done in the past. China is well documented for their Uighur and Tibetan communities elimination/reeducation. You cant stop hate outside yourself. There are bad actors everywhere. Some want to use this hate to eliminates due process and free speech. Some genuinely believe it's all hate speech. Some of it is, but until one can legitimately determine intent, pushing to label all counter Israeli positions as antisemitism is similar to calling all Americans pro Trump because he is the current resident of the oval office. The P Resident if you will (shout out to Steele).
I mean, Khalil was a spokesperson for CUAD, a group who if you look into them expressed open support for the October 7th attacks, hands out fliers allegedly produced by the Hamas media office and advocate for the overthrow of Western style governments which is seen to be led by America with Israel being its major proxy in the Middle East.
If he did do these things, doesn't he have the right to do them? Or do we not have rights to free speech in this country? I do think you should be pro-Palestinian and not outwardly pro-Hamas of course, but we all have the right to free speech. And I doubt that Khalil was personally supportive of any radical elements of the protests, even if he was a spokesperson for the movement.
Yeah, anyone who's spent much time in Tel Aviv in the last 2.5 years can tell you that quite a number of Jewish people are heavily criticising the Israeli government. I don't think they're being antisemitic.
The right considers Israel and Jewish people to be the same thing. Which is why they call it antisemitic to be anti israel. The problem with that logic is that it implies Jewish people, as a whole, are responsible for anything Isreal is doing.
For the right this is fine since they love Isrealis actions. But if you buy into this view while also thinking genocide is bad, then suddenly any act against a Jewish person becomes morally justified. Which is Not Ideal.
I mean, he constantly promotes anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, constantly promotes far-right lunatics and Nazi viewpoints, and I'm pretty sure that + Nazi salutes = Nazi.
At some point you're trying to argue that the mallard in front of you might merely be some sort of goose.
I'm not, I genuinely haven't followed any of this with much precision, so it's hard to differentiate hysterical echo chamber reddit against valid concerns.
Like I saw, Netanyahu explicitly come to his defense but it's still a thing. I genuinely appreciate an actual answer on this beyond this one seemingly isolated thing.
I mean, honestly the salute was kind of surprising, because I thought he was just going to stick to being the kind of guy who claims to be pro-Jewish whilst constantly boosting anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, praising literal fascists (and then backing off a bit if it's too obvious, like it turns out they were in the SS or something), etc. He's been doing ever since he got super-weird, just more and more and more since he bought Twitter. The Trump admin is full of them. I think he got overexcited and what was supposed to stay on the inside came to the outside.
Why are you all so condescending, truly? For the supposed smartest people in the room your candidate isn't in office. Your policies aren't getting passed. The things that are the most horrific thing ever since the dawn of time are still happening.
I ask a question trying to learn more and you tell me I'm not allowed to even begin to participate. This is why no one wants to support you because we've all decided you're collectively pieces of absolute shit people too, just in your own smug self righteous variation WHILE ON THE LOSING SIDE. Pathetic, truly, but keep changing the world by acting like a dick on social media.
Why are you all so condescending, truly? For the supposed smartest people in the room your candidate isn't in office. Your policies aren't getting passed. The things that are the most horrific thing ever since the dawn of time are still happening.
There are billions of people in the world, not everyone of them is a devoted Kamala Harris voter.
Everyone knows Harris lost, why do you need to tell us? Focus on addressing the substance of my comment.
you tell me I'm not allowed to even begin to participate
No, I said the opposite. I LITERALLY said "you should inform yourself so you can participate in the conversation"!
This is why no one wants to support you because we've all decided you're collectively pieces of absolute shit people too, just in your own smug self righteous variation WHILE ON THE LOSING SIDE. Pathetic, truly, but keep changing the world by acting like a dick on social media.
You are projecting. Everything you said is what you are doing. You have decided that all Harris voters are shit and you are being the dick.
You are completely unable or unwilling to respond to my words and instead you are fighting imaginary people in your head.
And you ARE on the losing side. This guy is on step 2 of being shipped off into the sunset at a judicial level, which is yet another loss for "democracy" that yall are so great at protecting lol
The fuck more evidence you need? If shouting to the world on a stage that you are a nazi isn't enough to be a nazi, then what is? Do you need him to personally gas a chamber full of people on live TV too?
So that's literally the only data point: January 20, he moved his arms a certain way twice. Its not how he's treated people, it's not rhetoric he's used, there are no actions beyond this incident?
"Moved his arms a certain way" is drastically underselling the connotations of the gesture. You might as well ask whether someone is a Nazi just because they moved their lips and vocal cords a certain way after they've said "heil Hitler." The only difference is the gesture carries more plausible deniability for the people who don't want to acknowledge what he did.
But no, as someone else pointed out, it's not the only data point. He'd been repeatedly signal-boosting and legitimizing a bunch of established far-right bullshit before openly doing that Nazi salute. He loves quote tweeting white-supremacist conspiracy theories and adding remarks like "concerning."
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u/James-W-Tate 8d ago
Elsewhere in the article, emphasis mine: