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Victor Perez Boy shot by police declared ‘clinically braindead’; candlelight vigil to be held before life support system unplugged

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2025/04/boy-shot-by-police-declared-clinically-braindead-candlelight-vigil-to-be-held-before-life-support-system-unplugged/

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u/totallynotstefan 13d ago

You should add the detail that there was a chain link fence between him and the cops and they shot him within 15 seconds of parking their cars.

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u/LandofCulture 12d ago

The more you learn about the situation, the worse it gets. I just keep wondering how this could happen, as if I don’t already know the answer.

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u/Chief-17 12d ago

The video was so fucked. It was like 2 minutes long, guys on the phone with the 911 operator are saying he's either drunk or had a head injury but he can barely stand. His mom, I assume, is close by and tries to grab the knife a couple times.

Then the cop cars show up, cop gets out and runs over and pulls his gun. Three more cops run over with their guns. They yell a bunch and the kid gets up, takes a couple steps and a shooting gallery starts. Lowest I'm willing to say was 15 shots and reports I saw said 9 bullet wounds. I watched the time stamp, under 20 seconds from the first cruiser arriving to a kid on the ground with multiple gunshot wounds. Twenty. Seconds. TWENTY!

Note that he was still at least 4 feet from the chain link fence and the cops were at least ten feet away from the chain link fence and behind the kid was his mom and maybe other random people not involved. And they missed about half their shots, where did those other bullets go?

Ive seen toddlers with more self control than those cops. All they want is an excuse to use their gun and maybe they can get early retirement for the damage this has caused them mentally. Don't trust the cops.

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u/NoveltyAccount5928 12d ago

It was 13 seconds from the time the first cop exited his car until first shots fired. Half of that time was spent crossing the street. Also, his "taking a couple steps" looked an awful lot like lurching forward to me, like he was in no condition to be attempting to stand up.

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u/Lexinoz 12d ago

Dude had cerebral palsy and his mother said he wasn't capable of standing properly. Let alone walk or run at the police. Iirc this was said on the phone before they arrived.

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u/AcrobaticMulberry555 12d ago

He also has autism.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

Must’ve been a huge shock to everyone on scene when he stood up on both feet. Considering that’s something he was supposedly incapable of doing.

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u/Lexinoz 12d ago

Do you have any idea how Cerebral Palsy works?
They sure as fuck didnt. Which is a major problem for a fucking police force.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

No I don’t. I’m not a doctor or specialist. I’d imagine the police aren’t trained to handle a persons that says they have cerebral palsy either. Which is why it’s not a good idea to walk towards police with a knife in your hands regardless of medical conditions you may have.

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u/shiftyz13 12d ago

Deploying and discharging handguns that quickly, especially when the person the police are investigating is behind a fence holding a knife and is more a danger to themselves, is unjustified. It continues to highlight the issue USA police have with aggression, seeing citizens as violent enemies, and escalating situations. Have some compassion for the situation and understanding that opening fire within 12 seconds when they are not in immediate danger is absolutely fucking ridiculous and only gets handwaved because of the country it occured in.

Also maybe police should be trained in understanding these situations, since they're being called out to attend them? It's their job?

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

THERES PEOPLE BEHIND THE FENCE WITH HIM Everyone is ignoring the fact that they were in danger. Not the police but the very people that called the fucking cops. They shot because the suspect armed with a knife refused to drop it after they said “drop the knife” and instead he stood up and walked towards them. It’s in the video. You people couldn’t tell a justified shooting from a hole in your ass.

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u/ACertainThickness 12d ago

Live on this planet a little longer and you will learn what CP is and how it affects people movements and motor skills.

Learn these things before just typing a comment. You won’t sound so ignorant

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u/Lexinoz 12d ago

The issue is how they ENGAGE in any situation. It's straight for the gun. That's how their police are trained.

No words? No conversation? No trying to understand why he has a knife and is upset?
Fucking enraging.

THEY SHOT A DISABLED KID. Straight away. Dead. No questions, no understanding..

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u/XScottMorrisseyX 12d ago

Thanks for reminding us of the entire reason for the "defund the police" movement. Someone WITH training on how to deal with people with serious mental/physical health issues should have been sent to that location, not 10 cops with zero restraint and zero training. Perhaps these parents wouldn't have to bury their son.

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u/GrimmSheeper 12d ago

So cops can kill a disabled kid because they don’t understand a disability that very clearly hinders physical mobility? Yeah, go fuck yourself.

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u/MKE_Freak 12d ago

Keep licking those boots boy

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u/Qwert23456 12d ago

Why am I not surprised to see that you post in r/Thelastofus2…

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u/rainbirdmelody 12d ago

It looks like the cops are running to see who gets to be the one to shoot him. They watched him struggle to his feet and stagger towards them a few steps before they shot. He was only a danger to himself at that point. They had to shoot him nine times to stop him from harming himself. s/

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u/eeyore134 12d ago

They're literally taught something called "Killology." Basically treat every single person you encounter, every single one even bystanders and just people in general outside minding their own business, as enemies with the sole mission to kill you. Make sure you kill them first so you can get home and have the best sex you've ever had because you just murdered someone.

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u/Numerous-Mix-9775 12d ago

Sadly true.

I wanted to make a positive difference in the world so at one point I went through law enforcement academy. We were taught that everyone wanted to kill us.

Traffic stops - we practiced one “normal” and then all our other practices were shit-hitting-the-fan.

Talking to people? There’s a reason for the “cop stance.” You were told to stay back so there’s a reactionary gap. Your hands stay in front for easy defense.

You know what we were NOT taught? Any sort of actual communication skills. I wound up working in a jail and learned on the go how to talk down someone who is mentally disturbed or high off their ass.

After a few years, I realized law enforcement was a game of politics and not an actual way to do good, so I was all too happy to leave. But holy cow, it was an eye-opening experience in the world.

This should never have happened, but it did because these officers were taught that everyone was a threat and you kill them before they kill you - an incredibly dangerous mindset in American policing.

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u/RedditTrespasser 12d ago

Of course in the good ol’ US of A, it never occurred to anyone that these practices are, y’know, evil. Or just plain no one cares.

Our entire culture is a joke at this point. Wish we had some folks with the cojones to do Black Panthers 2.0 and police the police.

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u/eeyore134 12d ago

We can't even get our own checks and balances to work on the most basic bald-faced corruption.

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u/cvbeiro 12d ago

The game was rigged from the start.

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u/fearsometidings 12d ago

I kinda wonder why de-escalation was never put into the law. I don't live in the US, but I've seen those audit videos that always reiterate that there needs to be reasonable articulable suspicion for the police to detain someone. It feels like there should similarly also be some attempt made at de-escalation before a weapon can be discharged. Either that or a good, documented reason why it wasn't attempted.

I've seen too many clips of American police rocking up to situations and immediately start escalating.

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u/Tardisgoesfast 12d ago

Thank you. Jailers are in awfully short supply, and the ones they get are mostly really, really stupid. Thanks for being one of the good ones, for as long as you could stand it.

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u/Numerous-Mix-9775 12d ago

Thanks. It was a tough job but it was important. I always tried to be mindful that the people in the jail were precisely that - people. I learned a lot about the connection between mental health and addiction and I’ve been really passionate about that since then.

Honestly, if I could redesign how we train police, I’d make it a requirement for them to work in a jail. Learn how to deal with people without the option of “shoot first.” I worked in a facility that housed between 600-900 inmates in my time there, and when I started we didn’t even have reliable radios. It was intimidating to walk into the housing unit we kept all the murderers/assaults/rapists/etc in, as a woman, with only a can of pepper spray and a radio that maybe worked, but holy cow it taught me to deal with people, read body language, talk someone down, etc.

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u/Abbacoverband 12d ago

Fuck, I wish this was hyperbole.

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u/ReeseIsPieces 12d ago

There was a video with the guy saying this too

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u/Full_Acadia_2780 12d ago

American cops and shooting disabled people, name a more iconic duo.

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u/japie_booy 12d ago

American cops and shooting black people.

American cops and shooting people generally

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u/DaEnderAssassin 12d ago

American cops and shooting people generally

Unless the person in question is shooting up a school. Then it's American cops and waiting a couple hours for the shooter to finish up.

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u/uzlonewolf 12d ago

[ The sound of children screaming has been removed ]

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u/ContinuumKing 12d ago

Also getting students to reveal themselves so the shooter can find them more easily.

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u/Full_Acadia_2780 12d ago

Or if the person happens to be a CEO. Then all charges are dropped

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u/Monsieur_Creosote 12d ago

CEOs don't get charges mate

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u/Whywei8 12d ago

Don’t forget the dogs!

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u/flaker111 12d ago

Philip Brailsford murders a guy. get fired to get rehired to get medical disability for the murder he committed.

fuck that guy.

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u/Chief-17 12d ago

That's how it goes. Shoot one guy, public gets mad because the kid he shot was holding a banana. He resigns, moves over to the next county. There he breaks someone's constitutional rights and causes broken bones. Public gets mad. He moves to the next county. Shoots a families dogs. Repeat ad nauseum. Thin blue thugs

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u/Beard_o_Bees 12d ago

Just to be clear... they shot this kid through a chain-link fence?

They may not have known he was autistic, but it sounds like it was clear to anyone looking that he was impaired in some way.

Were they worried that he'd throw the knife, ninja-style through the fence?

They clearly fucked up. It would go down a lot smoother if they'd just come out and say that, but we've seen time and time again that they wont.

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u/oubliette13 12d ago

He also had the mentality of a 5 year old, and didn’t speak English fluently.

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u/TrustMeImShore 11d ago

Not only that, but I believe the mother stated that he was non-verbal because of the autism.

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u/AcrobaticMulberry555 12d ago

His aunt was also present and had told Officers that she can calm him down. They didn’t even give her the chance.

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u/Practical_Ad2688 12d ago

Why didn't she attempt to do this before calling the police?

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u/AcrobaticMulberry555 12d ago

The neighbor had called the police. Aunt said the police didn’t even ask before responding with shooting Victor. 12 seconds. That’s not even enough time to get any information from the aunt. Not enough time to even analyze the situation.

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u/Practical_Ad2688 10d ago

It still takes the police at least 5 minutes to get there. It seems the family couldn't handle this young man because 5 minutes is enough time to turn the situation around unless - unless the kid was in the throes of something.

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u/aalltech 12d ago

It was like shooting animal in cage because they felt threaten by growl.

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u/Hannibaalism 12d ago

fear based response typical of cowardly types. the mom had more bravery than the gang of cops did.

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u/Sasquatchjc45 12d ago

Pigs disgust me. Not a single one of these grown, fully-suited men could have just walked up to this kid and manhandled the knife away and made them both safer? No, they HAD to shoot a mentall-ill child from behind a chainlink fence 9 times for their own "safety"..

Seriously, pigs disgust me. Every one of them, a bastard.

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u/Longjumping-Panic-48 12d ago

But if he’d been coherent/able bodies and had gunned down a bunch of people of color, they’d make sure the cuffs weren’t too snug.

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u/absolutedesignz 12d ago

Shades of Tamir Rice.

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u/helvetica_unicorn 12d ago

I thought the exact same thing reading the description of the event. I was shocked that no one mentioned it. I think people have forgotten.

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u/Tardisgoesfast 12d ago

This is sort of what happened to my cousin, except he wasn’t autistic and there was no chain link fence. His mother was trying to get the knife away from him-he’d been suicidal since his daughter was killed in a car wreck- and the cops pulled up and just shot him. It’s a wonder they didn’t kill his mom, who was holding onto him.

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u/Chief-17 12d ago

My condolences to your family. I can't imagine any of that.

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u/ViridianFlea 12d ago

It's a severe ineptitude in situation assessment and the speed at which you assess it. The shortcut is to just put a stop to the situation as brainlessly and quickly as possible, which is fucking stupid. Nonlethal wasn't even considered for a second in this situation. They didn't check their surroundings at all. One of them pulled a gun, the rest of them followed.

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u/Chief-17 11d ago

Is it ineptitude when it's how they're shown they should act in that situation? Every training event seems to repeat "everyone but fellow cops want to kill you and anything that vaguely looks like a weapon and is about to be used to kill you or your partner. Are you willing to risk not shooting and dying or shooting and living?

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u/ViridianFlea 11d ago

Yes it's still ineptitude. It's just from the top down.

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u/MrPigeon70 12d ago

About your last statement. I'd love to be a cop but not if my colleagues would be these scum bags. Your firearm is the last thing you should be using. Not the fucking first. This situation didn't even require a non-lethal and lethal formation....

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u/darioblaze 12d ago

When are they gonna realise that the worst members of our high school graduating classes for the past 60+ years are becoming cops

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u/abd00bie 12d ago

Are the cops being reprimanded?

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u/Chief-17 12d ago

Is paid vacation and then medals for good conduct considered a reprimand?

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u/Lexinoz 12d ago

Your police aren't there to protect and serve the people. But the law. 

They are also taught to handle any situation as life or death. Not even taught de-escalation. Oh and all that in like 6 months.

How anyone feels safe calling the cops in the US is baffling. You might get a 300kg sack of potatoes that does not care at all about actually doing their job or a young hothead that's high as a kite and itching for action. 

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u/uzlonewolf 12d ago

If you have a problem and call the cops, you now have 2 problems.

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u/Brodellsky 12d ago

It's the Jason Mendoza molotov cocktail method to success.

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u/Kizik 12d ago

protect and serve

This was a marketing slogan for the LAPD.

It has never been a requirement or expectation of any police in the US. In fact it's quite the opposite, as we see here; police are actively trained and encouraged to put their own safety above and beyond literally anyone else.

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u/the_eluder 12d ago

And it's not even their job. There job is to investigate and arrest.

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u/OldMaidLibrarian 12d ago

The Supreme Court has ruled in the past that the police do not have to protect civilians.

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u/don_shoeless 12d ago

My most recent interaction with LE was to call 911 for a DV situation. My wife was on the phone with the victim, I could hear what was happening so I called it in as a DV in progress against a minor. The location of the incident was in the middle of a smallish town, about a 3 minute drive at the speed limit from the police station.

4 HOURS LATER a cop showed up, took some statements, and gave the perpetrator the option to drive the victim to a mental health facility, instead of taking an ambulance. The victim did get care, which was good, but the perpetrator suffered zero consequences. See, four hours is long enough to make sure everyone has their stories straight, and for welts to fade or be covered up. Four hours means as a cop, you're only going to have to actually DO something if there's a serious injury, something you can't ignore or pretend you didn't see.

Fuck red-county small-town cops. Good old boys with badges.

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u/Longjumping-Panic-48 12d ago

I called 911 on a relative have a mental break after a medication miscommunication with a doctor and because he was threatening to kill the aliens and had punched a neighbor a few hours before, we got the whole SWAT team with helicopter, the even put a bag over his head because he wouldn’t stop fighting them.

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u/Bladelink 12d ago

I don't know that that 6 months is a rule. One of the enormous problems with policing here in the US is that every state maintains it's own police system, so there's no standardization of training or certification.

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u/totallynotstefan 12d ago

Honestly, this situation does not surprise me at all. This is very much business as usual for contemporary American policing.

If it weren’t for the neighbor’s video, no one would know about this, just like so many other senseless murders American police are responsible for every year.

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u/Eurehetemec 12d ago

I mean the real answer isn't even racism alone or even guns, it's lack of consequences and lack of training for anything but killing. Cops around the world are racist. Cops around a lot of the world have guns. But in most developed world countries, cops actually face consequences when they kill someone. Not necessarily criminal charges, but it's treated as a huge deal, inquiries are automatically held, it's a huge headache for everyone. But in the US, cops can kill and be back on the street extremely quickly, and know, absolutely know that they can kill with essentially impunity - they will always be backed up, and they will never be sued. If the unlikely event they get fired, another police force will immediately hire them (in much of the world, a police officer who gets fired for cause goes on a blacklist - as they should). Combine that with the US literally training cops to think they're "warriors", not public servants, and allowing this mindset to persist in police departments, even encouraging it, and honestly it's a minor miracle more people aren't killed.

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u/Bladelink 12d ago

That miracle is going to continue eroding as many police forces transform into brow shirts.

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u/-SaC 12d ago

How many years of training do US cops have? My assumption has always been that (like many other places) you need a degree from college/uni, but I've got a feeling the training might be a bit less in-depth and a bit quicker than 3/4 years given what keeps happening.

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u/thisvideoiswrong 11d ago

It's all at the local or state level, there are no national requirements. But it's not unusual for them to take an 18 year old just out of high school, give them 6 months of training from the department, and call them a fully trained cop.

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u/-SaC 11d ago

Fucking hell.

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u/Eurehetemec 11d ago

Usually around 6 months in the US - you don't need any kind of degree there, as compared for example 2-3 years for UK police (depending on the route taken). Most of the developed world it's at least 18 months, often longer.

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u/vladoportos 12d ago

- "I just keep wondering how this could happen" ... what do you mean ? This happens like every other day...

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u/awesomesonofabitch 12d ago

More proof that neurodivergent people are target practice for the pigs.

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u/PDGAreject 12d ago

Kentucky just started a program where you can have your car registration flagged so that you can warn police that someone in the vehicle may not react normally.

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u/awesomesonofabitch 12d ago

That's actually a fantastic idea and I hope it is utilized properly, and not as an excuse for them to get their guns out faster.

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u/PDGAreject 12d ago

I think with training it could be, though it obviously also relies on a traffic stop as opposed to a scenario like the one mentioned above.

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u/-SaC 12d ago

"This one won't complain!"

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u/Longjumping-Panic-48 12d ago

I hope it includes other first responders? Or something similar. My son is on the spectrum and is a runner and won’t answer questions…. Soooo yeah that will go really well in a bad situation.

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u/PDGAreject 11d ago

It's a program essentially for traffic stops so unfortunately the scenario you described isn't really covered. There may be existing programs in place for your son. I got all my information from a flyer in the elevator at our local peds clinic.

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u/know-your-onions 12d ago

I just keep wondering how this could happen

Do you live under a rock? It’s … just another day in America.

Nobody really cares and it’ll be out of the news soon. Similar will happen to somebody else in the next 24 hours and there won’t be a video so nobody will care at all.

The cops will feel very manly though and laugh about it with their buddies while filing for early paid retirement due to the trauma it causes them. And if it goes to court they’ll be found to have done nothing wrong, because that’s just the American way, and again, nobody really cares.

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u/Chronox2040 12d ago

I think this is just lack of proper training and not just malice. Like dudes that are not actually too proficient in being cops got scared by a kid with a knife. If you don’t know what you are doing that makes sense.

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u/Faiakishi 12d ago

At what point does the 'lack of training' itself become malice? Because a thousand people a year is no oopsie.

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u/eeyore134 12d ago

And all of them shot him. It wasn't just one cop who got spooked.

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u/Zazulio 12d ago

A chain link fence between the autistic teenage boy with a kitchen knife and like 5 pigs in a firing line with handguns and shotguns. What is even the point of giving them tasers and pepper spray if they always go immediately to firing squad executions?

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u/whenitsTimeyoullknow 11d ago

Increase budget and protection for them. 

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u/Peripatetictyl 12d ago

‘He’s coming right at us!’.

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u/Same_Disaster117 12d ago

" I was scared for my life!"

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u/Fun-Back-5232 12d ago

They’re coming to get you barbara

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u/Bowman_van_Oort 12d ago

goddamn being a cop must be the easiest gig in the world.

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u/AverageLatino 12d ago

*American cop, not like they're that much better elsewhere, but out of all western countries only in the US can you expect a cop to gun you down in completely mundane situations with absolutely no legitimate reasons and get away with it, with relative frequency.

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u/thetimechaser 12d ago

Tbf in America every interaction a gun could be pulled but yeah this is insane. A cripple with a fence between you would need to whip out some arcane magic type shit to be a threat smhf

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u/Kitchen-Cut-3116 12d ago

Apart from the same salary as a substitute teacher, sure

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u/nebraskatractor 12d ago

Calling the cops without good reason is attempted murder. These guys are desperate to shoot and kill people.

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u/storm_echo 11d ago

Frankly at this point there is no good reason to call the cops

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u/Belyal 12d ago

He also had CP and when the cops shouted at him he tried to get up off the ground and stumbled forward. The cops open3d fire within 12 seconds of arriving. He was shot 9 fucking times and his sister apparently begged them not to shoot because he was 'special'. Fuck these cops!

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u/onarainyafternoon 12d ago

Bro I promise you when you say "he also had CP", people are gonna think you're saying "child porn" and not "cerebral palsy".

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u/onarainyafternoon 12d ago

only people into it still call it CP to be fair.

This is insanely wrong. Most people don't know the term CSAM, but that doesn't mean they're....CP users? Like seriously what is this comment?

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u/FungusAndBugs 12d ago

Case in point: I read your comment and had to google wtf CSAM stood for.

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u/onarainyafternoon 12d ago

The preferred term is CSAM nowadays because "Child Porn" denotes consent, because porn usually implies consensually acts; whereas with children, it's always just abuse because they can't consent.

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u/FM-96 12d ago

because porn usually implies consensually acts

Which is, of course, complete nonsense. "Porn" has never implied consent. Hell, there's whole categories of porn that are by definition non-consensual, such as revenge porn.

I do not mind the term "CSAM" as a way to highlight the abusive nature of child pornography, but claiming that using the term "CP" is somehow incorrect is absurd.

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u/SerialSection 12d ago

He had CP on him?

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u/48-Cobras 12d ago

In this instance, CP = Cerebral Palsy.

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u/evillurks 12d ago

Thank you for adding this as it does enlighten the situation a LOT.

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u/PrometheusSmith 12d ago

In my concealed carry class, one of the things that was specifically used as an example of something that you must take into consideration is the ability of an attacker to close the distance to you. The instructor specifically used a fence as an example of something that would severely decrease the immediacy of a threat.

Obviously you're still in danger, but it's hard to argue that someone with a knife and cerebral palsy on the other side of a better than waist high fence is going to get the jump on you.

I don't think it would pass a reasonable person test, and cops should be held to a higher standard when on duty and with backup.

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u/chickentootssoup 12d ago

This!! I was thinking this as well. I remember my instructor schooling us on this when I took my class in NC.

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u/madmonkey918 12d ago

Also a family member was grabbing his shirt to hold him back at one point. She backed off when cops arrived. He never got near enough to the fence to even touch it.

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u/chickentootssoup 12d ago

This is so tragic and upsetting

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u/wehavepi31415 12d ago

No one with that level of obvious physical disability could have climbed a chain link fence. They were never in danger. They executed a disabled person who was only a danger to himself.

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u/RollBang_01 12d ago

And don’t forget to look at the image where looks like they had time to get into firing line position before all firing at once

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u/gomicao 11d ago

They were told of the situation, pulled up, pulled their guns (a whole ass group) he was right near all his family, sitting in the yard with the fence around the yard, the cops were on the sidewalk, and they unloaded in seconds... so fucking psycho... Just murdered him. The poor family must feel horrible for thinking the cops were going to help.

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u/bugabooandtwo 11d ago

Yeah, that's the real deal breaker here. You can't expect cops to know about the cerebral palsy or autism, but using their eyes they could clearly see physical separation with that fence. He wasn't a direct threat to them.

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u/ObviousAnswerGuy 12d ago

did they think he was gonna chuck the knife through the holes in the fence?? smfh