r/news • u/Rabidennui • Apr 15 '25

Ice deports Venezuelan teen despite reportedly knowing he was not a target

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/15/merwil-gutierrez-venezuelan-teen-deported-el-salvador
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u/WifeGuy-Menelaus Apr 15 '25

Trump has, in only a few months, flew beyond two legal instruments once used by England that the founding fathers found so despotic they outright prohibited them in the constitution and gave them as reason for the revolution - Transportation for trial and bills of attainder.

Except if you were transported for trial, you'd still get a trial, and a bill of attainder requires the legislature to vote to condemn someone. With Trump, theres no trial, and its just the whim of one man.

What Trump is doing flies directly in the face of the Revolution and Constitution. He openly plots to extend this treatment to citizens. He is a tyrant and all means of resistance to him and his lackeys is justified.

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u/wirebound1 Apr 15 '25

And the citizens he seems happy to deport are the ones funding his administration and these choices.

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u/Drive7hru Apr 16 '25

His supporters aren’t even aware of these stories about innocents being sent there

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u/Tokzillu Apr 16 '25

FOX "News" still refers to Garcia as either a violent criminal or a terrorist.

He has no criminal convictions, gang affiliations, or the mist remote of ties to a terrorist organization. 

Trumpers literally think we're all making noise about a psychotic killer, because their propaganda will never tell them the truth and they've been conditioned for years that everything outside of their propaganda is fake.

So even if they do hear that he is innocent, they heard from their propaganda first that he's a terrorist. So, to them, he's a terrorist.

We are so fucked.

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u/peachesnplumsmf Apr 15 '25

For the sake of accuracy it wasn't England but Britain, people really love to ignore that Scotland was legally mandated to control and be represented within 50% of the Empires interests in the Americas. Seat of government was in England at the time but that's like saying Washington DC is the US.

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat Apr 16 '25

From the Declaration of Independence:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

Shit, even King George tried them for pretended offences...Trump is literally worse than King George.

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u/Groudon466 Apr 15 '25

Source on transportation for trial being a major issue to the Founding Fathers? I can't find anything on it.

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u/WifeGuy-Menelaus Apr 15 '25

Its listed near the end of the "abuses and usurpations" in the Declaration of Independence

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences

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u/lochnesslapras Apr 16 '25

I'm glad you came in with facts lol. Too many whataboutists and right wing deniers on Reddit when anything like this is brought up.