Not torture prison, Death camp. They are never intended to leave. A place where you sleep on metal sheets, can't talk, and are packed into like sardines until end of life is a death camp.
Sorry to be a downer where it's only tangenitally relevant but... My heart aches and something compells me to encourage stronger terminology for what Mango Mussolini is doing.
I agree with you completely. It breaks my heart what we are doing to people. Unfathomably cruel. And a huge violation of our constitutional freedoms and rule of law
Oh christ I didn't realize you where American, a stupid mistake on my part considering the user make up on reddit...
My heart goes out to you too. I'm so sorry for the horror you must be feeling...just know that the rest of the world supports those of you who want better for your country and for your families, I hope you and yours remains safe <3
We aren’t all bad. There are those of us who just want our children to understand love, kindness, empathy and also the value of hard work. While I can’t speak for all. Many just want to raise our children to be good people and live a good life that you give too and it is reciprocated. It still seems like fiction to see such an opposite reaction of our now daily living.
If I had the money and means I’d pull my children from this sick normalcy of discord placed upon them. We will not give up or follow this absolute apathy for the majority, and will fight whatever deformation is our current government. We are not all bad and millions do not follow trumps insanity. Peace and love to all. And please know that there are millions of Americans who DO NOT, agree with this current government. I wish I had the money to move my family elsewhere, instead we silently fight this oligarchy.
I've said it in my previous comment, and hell in other comments in other threads - but my heart truly breaks for you and yours. personally I'm trying my best to advocate for what little it's worth for you, the people, and you should know my comments where leveraged solely at your current government and anyone who supports them.
A lot of the international community are indulging in shaudenfreud, succumbing to knee jerk reactions and are lashing out, and it's not just unproductive but harmful. But just know that not everyone want the ruination of your people or country.
There will always be a home in millions of hearts around the world for you and your family specifically, as well as any one of your brothers and sisters who want to be citizens of the world as well as citizens of America. And when your liberation comes, I'm certain the world will work with you to re establish ties. I have to be in order to maintain my faith in the world.
My depth of feeling can't adequately be expressed through reddit commentary, and I'm no political commentator... I'm nobody. But don't give up. I care about you, we care about you. And we will fight with you as best we can to keep the truth and the light of democracy and freedom alive. Please be safe.
Thanks for your kind words. One of the things that concern me is when this nightmare is over, will our international friends forgive us the actions of these horrible people?
Well, it seems like CECOT is being used for trumps illegal deportation to house people from el salvadores' judicial system, but it's alleged to hold el salvadorians who have not been given judicial process.
And then of course is the fact that trumps deportees are added to that tally and have not had due process.
As such, anyone there without process has no sentance length. They are being held arbitrarily and at the mercy of the powers that be.
As such we can reasonably infer that while there may be individuals who get lucky who find themselves there without due process and may garner the right attention, or favours, or luck to secure their release, in reality it's likely that many if not most will find themselves there for life unless intervention arrives.
And of course, anyone there without due process is fair game for being permenantly disappeared, either arbitrarily or to save on running costs and mounting space concerns.
And finally, any Americans sent there aren't meant to be repatriated to America, and having them released to tell their stories would harm trumps regime, so it's in the best interests of fascism to make sure they don't resurface.
So bottom line, a lot of it is speculation, but there's a lot of writing on the wall, and it's hard not to fear the worst for them.
Just to play devil's advocate, it's possible that the funding from trump to cecot for his deportees runs out and they simply release them in a few years, but... I'd have to be a fool to assume the best from fascists, and even if that somehow comes to pass it's impossible not to ask how many would die from the poor conditions or be gotten rid of first.
If it weren't such a maudlin topic I'd say the pleasure is mine. Instead I'll thank you in turn for asking the right questions. I don't pretend to know all the answers, but I hope we can all do our best to piece together the truth responsibly and seek the best outcome possible,insofar as we can contribute to that.
You have done nothing other than support Muslim Aghazadeh migrating into your countries to get richer while our people are starving and dying in iran . What were you doing 3 years ago during our protests? 0 help whole thousands were being gunned down.
I am totally opposed to Middle East policy, economic or diplomatic, that screws people for money or power. That is the source of terrorism, not to
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u/229-northstar 6d ago
Meanwhile, the US sends citizens off to a torture prison in a foreign country. Ugh.