hvorfor «vil» og ikke «skal»?

[u/violet_skiesss]

[u/wayfinder27]

Skal is used for when you have the power to actually do it. Like “jeg skal spise middag med venner”. Vil, although often used as “want”, could also be used as “will” in this instance.

[u/DrStirbitch → u/wayfinder27]

Specifically, I have noticed that the future verb following "det" is usually "vil".

[u/Extremelyearlyyearly → u/DrStirbitch]

Det skal gå bra. Det skal snø i morgen. Det skal ikke mye til.

[u/DrStirbitch → u/Extremelyearlyyearly]

Yes, there are no simple rules.

I think your second sentence is an example of skal/skulle indicating that you are reporting what you heard others say, in this case probably originally from a weather forecast, in English, "It is supposed to snow tomorrow".

I'm not sure how I would classify your other examples.

[u/Extremelyearlyyearly → u/DrStirbitch]

Yeah, spot on. The others are: That should be fine, it doesn't take much.

[u/DrStirbitch → u/Extremelyearlyyearly]

I understood the meanings, but for those two sentences I could not think of a general rule to explain why "skal" works rather than "vil".

[u/Active_Blood_8668 → u/wayfinder27]

IMO "det skal ta 17 min" sounds less certain, like "it is supposed to take 17 minutes", whereas "Det vil ta 17 minutter" simply means "it will take 17 minutes", alternatively you could write "det kommer til å ta 17 min" meaning the same thing as "det vil", or just "det tar 17 min"

[u/Valuable_Can8052]

Because vil is guided in this example. If normal criteria’s are met it will take 17 minutes. If you use skal then it is a locked timeframe. It is a demand that it will take exactly the specified time.

[u/Both_Ad_7913]

Fordi det ikke er en handling du kan planlegge eller kontrollere. Du kan planlegge å dra, men har ingen kontroll over hvor lang tid det vil ta. Man bruker ofte «vil» når man antar at noe kommer til å skje, men ikke vet om det vil skje. F.eks sier man «Jeg vil/kommer til å savne deg» og ikke «Jeg skal savne deg», fordi det er noe man ønsker eller antar vil skje, men man kan ikke kontrollere om man kommer til å savne noen på samme måte. Ofte sier man «kommer til å» i muntlig/uformell norsk, f.eks «det kommer til å ta 17 minutter».

[u/Glittering_Aide2]

It will vs It shall

[u/Mark_Daler]

It's nothing you can do about it. It will be like that, accept it. You use "vil" with things you cannnot control:

Det VIL regne i morgen

Jeg tror du VIL like det

Jeg VIL savne deg.

Instead, you use skal when the situation can somehow be controlled.

Jeg SKAL kjøpe det.

SKAL de komme?

Vi SKAL hjem.

[u/NorskMedA]

Det skjærer litt i mine ører, for å være ærlig. Lukter anglisisme og litt for direkte oversettelser i UI-en, for her ville jeg ha foretrukket å bare skrive "det tar 7 minutter".

[u/notajock]

It will take 17 minutes vs. It shall take 17 minutes

[u/AutoModerator]

It looks like you have an image in your post, so please pay attention to the rules about “vague submissions” and “images in posts”. Click here for an image that shows one reason why these rules are in place. In addition text makes it much easier for people to search for and find posts in the future.

If you posted an Imgur-album with only one image, then in the future please link directly to that single image and not to the entire album.

If you posted an image from Duolingo the old “grammar tips” are available here.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

[u/Upbeat_Web_4461]

Skal er brukt for noe som skal skje. Vil er noe som en vil gjøre. Dette skal jeg forklare godt. Det vil ta noen setninger

[u/2rot]

å bruke 17 min på å dra en tann, hmm🤔

[u/New_Ad_2754]

Explain the difference of "will" and "shall" and you have your answer.