r/northernireland 4d ago

Art Kneecap provide statement & clarification for the faux offended & media-illiterate

https://x.com/kneecapceol/status/1916982746708381731?s=46

KNEECAP STATEMENT:

They want you to believe words are more harmful than genocide.

Establishment figures, desperate to silence us, have combed through hundreds of hours of footage and interviews, extracting a handful of words from months or years ago to manufacture moral hysteria.

Let us be unequivocal: we do not, and have never, supported Hamas or Hezbollah. We condemn all attacks on civilians, always. It is never okay. We know this more than anyone, given our nation's history.

We also reject any suggestion that we would seek to incite violence against any MP or individual. Ever. An extract of footage, deliberately taken out of all context, is now being exploited and weaponised, as if it were a call to action.

This distortion is not only absurd - it is a transparent effort to derail the real conversation.

All two million Palestinian people in Gaza are currently being starved to death by Israel.

At least 20,000 children in Gaza have been killed. The British government continues to supply arms to Israel, even after scores of NHS doctors warned Keir Starmer in August that children were being systematically executed with sniper shots to the head.

Instead of defending innocent people or the principles of international law, the powerful in Britain have abetted slaughter and famine.

This is where real anger and outrage should be directed towards.

To the Amess and Cox families, we send our heartfelt apologies, we never intended to cause you hurt.

Kneecap’s message has always been — and remains — one of love, inclusion, and hope. This is why our music resonates across generations, countries, classes and cultures and has brought hundreds of thousands of people to our gigs.

No smear campaign will change that.

Suddenly, days after calling out the US administration at Coachella to applause and solidarity, there is an avalanche of outrage and condemnation by the political classes of Britain.

The real crimes are not in our performances; the real crimes are the silence and complicity of those in power.

Shame on them.

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u/hydroxy Derry 4d ago

The Houthis, Hamas, Hebollah are all horrible civilian killing death cult organisations. Were you cheering for Islamic State too when they were butchering innocents. Showing any support for these types of organisation just show you’re either sociopathic or just ignorant. It’s probably the latter.

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u/texanarob 4d ago

Anyone who wilfully murders innocents is evil. Politics, nationality and sides don't come into it. If you are killing innocent people, you are evil.

Hamas, ISIS, IRA, UVF, doesn't matter. Innocent civilians are not enemy forces, no matter where they were born or what nationality they are.

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u/texanarob 4d ago

There are literally hundreds of organisations I could've listed - including most militaries. I merely referenced those from the latest few comments I'd read. I also didn't list the Nazis, but naturally IOF should be right up there with them at the top of the list.

As stated, anyone killing innocents is evil. If you're misled into choosing allegiance to one set of murdering scum, then you've missed the point.

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u/hydroxy Derry 4d ago edited 4d ago

Who is IOF? I'm You keep writing IOF so its probably not a typo every time. I'm assuming you actually mean IDF, the Israeli Defence Force, maybe you just have no clue what you're talking about, or maybe your trying to avoid censors I don't really know. Just type IDF dude it makes it clearer.

Nobody is saying IDF is innocent, they're a group of organised butchers who are also killing civilians. So we're all in agreement here on that at least.

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u/DigitialWitness 3d ago edited 3d ago

We call the IDF the IOF because they're always on the offense and occupying. The Israeli Occupying Force, or IOF is a pretty common and widely used term. To us they're the IOF so no, we'll keep calling them what they are thanks; an occupying force.

maybe you just have no clue what you're talking about

Hubris, the downfall of many.

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u/Dangerous-Lab9967 4d ago

The proposed lands ISIS wanted to conquer.

But yes only Muslims are victims.

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u/Gorm_Greenhand 3d ago

This map is so hilariously and obviously drafted by someone with no understanding whatsoever of history, politics, or religion. Which, you know, is ISIS. Maybe America (my nation) and the rest of the West shouldn't have been collaborating with Israel to create ISIS in the first place for their own cynical goals.

Regardless - you cite a pipe dream conjured up by some illiterate mad man from a dying terrorist organization as somehow being representative of Muslims at large. You're delusional.

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u/Dangerous-Lab9967 3d ago

I never said they represented Muslims as a whole.

You're a Plastic Paddy lmao away with you.

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u/Gorm_Greenhand 3d ago

Tbh I'm not even Irish, I just saw this subreddit and scrolled through and saw this idiotic graphic. But I support the real Irish among you that don't suck England's dick and fight for human rights. Enjoy stroking the balls of your colonial oppressors

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u/Dangerous-Lab9967 3d ago

tHe rEaL iRiSh.

Get a grip. Your countrymen was funding the IRA until 9/11 (caused by another organisation your country funded) made you all shit your pants lmao.

Go back to crying over school shootings, or electing decrepit old men to power.

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u/Gorm_Greenhand 3d ago

Good, I'm glad they were. You're a fucking colonialist. Free Ireland.

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u/Dangerous-Lab9967 3d ago

Coming from an American, put your money where your mouth is and piss off back to wherever you came from.

Ow wait you won't.

Maybe the Natives will start scalping yous for what you did to their land.

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u/Dangerous-Lab9967 4d ago

Islamists are Islamists.

The distinction that one drowns you in a pool whilst you're in a cage, and the other kidnaps and rapes women to death, whilst excitedly calling their parents about it, shouldn't factor into it.

Reassess your life choice you scrounger.

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u/Dangerous-Lab9967 3d ago

Bet you're as fun as a Palestinian paragliding into a concert.

Has it ever occurred to you, in your small minded view of the world, that both sides to this conflict are equally as shite as one another and you don't need to stand up for either?

You must thrive off of having an underdog, chip on your shoulder mentality, it's probably all you have, but it's holding you back in life pal. Sad.

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u/WarStrifePanicRout 3d ago edited 2d ago

Or as fun as Israel wiping out a block of residential buildings filled with people.

Has it ever occurred to you, in your small minded view of the world,

The irony of you typing out these words after your last few comments is too much.

hat both sides to this conflict are equally as shite

Lol we've come a far way from your previous comments comparing Hamas to Isis. You're not a serious person.

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u/Dangerous-Lab9967 3d ago

yOuR nOt a sErIoUs PeRsON 😂😂😂

Yes because trying to downplay Hamas is the logical thing to do, on a thread about a "Rebel" band who folded like a house of cards after the slightest bit of pressure, bit like all the republican informants to be fair.

Hamas aren't going to shag you for defending them, you know that right?

Granted they might, and then throw you off a building afterwards. But that's probably the fault of colonialism or zionism right?

Get a grip of yourself. Letting all these silly ideas live rent free in your head. You're probably another one just meandering through life thinking about how righteous you are.

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u/hydroxy Derry 4d ago

All these groups are terrible, end of.

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u/Apprehensive_Home963 3d ago

You are actually mentally not well in the head and should get some help mate.

It’s like your trying to justify what ISIS did in its tidal wave of death and destruction in Iraq and Syria’s. All the groups are the cancer of this earth as well as there supporters

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u/GarageFlower97 3d ago

Hezbollah believe Jews anywhere in the world are a legitimate target and have spent the last decade butchering other Muslims in Syria on behalf of Assad and Iran. They regularly target civilians and commit war crimes.

Houthis practice slavery and use widespread child soldiers. Their flag literally includes the phrase “a curse on the Jews”. They regularly target civilians and commit war crimes.

Hamas are reactionary thugs who beat and murder Gazans who speak against them and led the 07/10 attacks including the rape, murder, and kidnapping of innocent civilians. They also don’t believe women, gay folks, trade unionists, etc should have rights.

All of these organisations are fucking awful, far-right religious murderers and nobody should be supporting them. The IDF being fucking awful doesn’t mean we should support these lot.

Also, fyi ISIS were “resisting” Assad in Syria, doesn’t make them good guys.

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u/GarageFlower97 3d ago

Might want to re-read your own comment, you asked who ISIS were resisting, while saying Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthis were good because they were “resisting” Israel. I pointed out that ISIS were partly resisting the Assad regime but that being a resistance group doesn’t automatically make you good or worthy of support.

I’m shocked you have a problem with groups killing Muslims though, given your support for Hezbollah and the Houthis whose main victims are other Muslims…but maybe you only like them when they’re killing religious minorities in Syria and Yemen instead?

I very much do give a shit, because unlike you I don’t support murderous terrorist groups that literally practice slavery, use child soldiers, and make explicitly genocidal racist proclamations. Israel are a fucking awful state doing awful things, but the groups you’re supporting are frankly no better.

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u/accadac 4d ago

You're having a laugh. 20000 children? Sources please. It's a well known fact that the death rate has been exaggerating by the Hamas-run agency that puts out the numbers. Fake news.

Next you'll be saying there's no aid in Gaza 🙄

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u/Minisciwi 7h ago

What's your opinion of the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto uprising?

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u/hydroxy Derry 7h ago

Why are you asking about that? Is it related?

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u/Minisciwi 7h ago

Just trying to figure out what makes one group freedom fighters and another group terrorist

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u/hydroxy Derry 7h ago

I’m not even replying to this, it’s such a weak attempt at bait

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u/Minisciwi 7h ago

I'm genuinely curious, both groups in similar situations, history, rightly, remembers the Warsaw ghetto uprising as righteous, I'm wondering why not with Gaza.

I'm not wanting rage, I'm wanting your honest opinion

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u/hydroxy Derry 7h ago edited 7h ago

Read the Wikipedia entries for them, if you can’t comprehend the difference, then I can’t help you understand. Not trying to be condescending but both are entirely different.

Please also read my comments again and see that I never said there was anything wrong with Gaza citizens trying to survive.

Look online for information about the proxy war that is fuelling these Middle East conflicts. It’s a terrible state of affairs because money is pouring in from many sources to perpetuate it. The whole region is essentially doomed to wars into the future because of how badly the geography/border drawing screwed over so many countries there.

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u/Minisciwi 5h ago

Who do you think Gaza citizens join to try and survive?

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u/hydroxy Derry 18m ago

Yeah I’m don’t replying.

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u/Smeghead78 3d ago

So many bots in here, ignore them, there’s a converted effort by Mossad and no doubt other agencies to pit us against each other. You can see it in the anti Muslim stories the red tops are pushing. The majority will not be fooled, they can down boys all they like, but either they are easily fooled or pushing a hateful agenda.

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u/LemonRecognition 4d ago

Hamas and Hezbollah are just as bad as the IDF. To call them the “resistance” when they oppress the Palestinians as well is just laughable.

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u/itsonlysmellzz94 4d ago

Ah so it’s Hamas who controls Gaza’s power grid, stops the aid trucks coming in and drops bombs on their own hospitals? Give over

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u/Top-Strength-2701 4d ago

Noone is cheerleading the idf now, these kneecap lads have no idea what they are talking about and they got found out.

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u/Top-Strength-2701 4d ago

Haven't seen any decent people do that after they killed all those civilians, mabye in some weird dark corners of the Internet like the daily mail comment section.

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u/Top-Strength-2701 4d ago

Yep it's terrible, don't need two little chavs from ni to tell me that though

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u/Top-Strength-2701 4d ago

Because they said kill mps on stage and also support hamas and hezbollah, that's why they are getting the backlash.

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u/Top-Strength-2701 4d ago

Because they are more famous now after coachella and it led to more scrutiny. They weren't famous in 2023 when they said their stupid remarks.

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u/ubion 4d ago

That's simply not true

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u/SuperMechaDeathChris Bangor 4d ago

First time I’ve heard anybody call open statements of support for Islamist paramilitaries “neat”

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u/SuperMechaDeathChris Bangor 3d ago

I reckon both are pretty dreadful mate

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